(02 Dec 2020, 22:18 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]"A is a subset of B" is different than "A=B", don't you think? So, we agree that the statement transwomen=women is wrong, right?
No, we do not agree.
(02 Dec 2020, 22:18 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]If you are saying, that "transwomen" is a subset of "women", than you have to correctly define what "women". Since we use Wiki for definitions, let's check wiki:
So we're going to use your rules to define everything? Ok, got it.
(02 Dec 2020, 22:18 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]" a woman has two X chromosomes and is capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause.
You left off "Typically" at the beginning of that sentence so it should be "Typically, a woman has two X chromosomes and is capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause." This one word carries a lot of weight here and drastically changes the rest of the sentence.
Now let's go further with defining these terms using wikipedia. On the wiki page for "trans woman", the definition begins with "
A trans woman is a woman who was assigned male at birth." So, by your rules of using wiki to define terms, we have established that trans women are women much like from my previous example we could say that Dutch citizens are humans.
In my example regarding Dutch citizens, you concluded that my example indicated that A is a subset of B instead of A == B. Here is where we agree, Dutch citizens are definitely a subset of the entire population of humans. Now, I also want to prove that transwomen are a subset of women just like aqua blue, sky blue, light blue, dark blue are all subset of blue. If we go back to the wiki definition of trans woman, we can see that the full sentence is "
A trans woman is a woman who was assigned male at birth" We can substitute other subjects and objects into that sentence and come out with the same implication that A is a subset of B. Let's try that with established examples: "A trans woman is a woman who was assigned male at birth" -- "A Dutch citizen is a human who was born in the Netherlands" -- "Light blue is a blue that is lighter than blue". As absurd and circular of a definition as that last example is to type or say out loud, it's still true and fits with the theme of establishing "A is a subset of B".
To go further into this, using anatomy to define who is a woman or not doesn't work here either. My sister, who is a genetic female, has no ovaries, fallopian tubes, or uterus, but she is still a woman. My sister was born with a vagina and my friend Haley had a surgery to add a vagina. My sister grew breasts at puberty and Haley grew breasts in her early 20s. Both my sister and Haley have the same number of female organs so how can we define that one is a woman and one is not based on anatomy?
Conclusion: We know that a woman is not defined by her anatomy and we know that a woman
typically has two X chromosomes,
but not always. By this, we can easily say that a trans woman, who has XY chromosome and no uterus, can be a woman.