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Here's 2 complete random around 2 years HRT results. 2years on HRT means they have had no operations except from maybe a boobjob if that is wanted. Not that you could see that in the pics anway šŸ˜‰Ā NO FFS, And seems to be that both are atleasy 18+ on the male pic.
Also try do a top 10 or top 20 Trans porn actors.
Ppl like Natalie Mars, she has a pretty good body that would not be possible without HRT. same goes for many other of the adult actors.
Just in case, I use "cherry picking" phrase in this sense: "the act of choosing the best people or things from a group and leaving those that are not so good".
(22 Feb 2020, 12:01 )gunz Wrote: [ -> ]...Ā Ā I've seen good results myself from ppl online aswell a few I've met in person.

So please do not say HRT is close to useless and "damaging" when the fact from all sources so far is that it's not. It's the opposite. The "biggest" POSSIBLE "damaging" thing about HRT is the Testosterone blockers/reducers can be heavy on the livers. But if you are a healthy person and isn't an alcoholic. You'll be fine.

^^^^^^^^

THIS!!!!!!Ā  I work with many trans individuals in support groups (like PFLAG in the US)Ā and on several panels for LGBTQ healthcare. HRT helps in so many ways. I have seen lives changed for the better and trans regret (people who de-transition and/or regret transition is very low (like < 3% ). Many times that 3% is from people who have too much social or family pressure against them transitioning.
(22 Feb 2020, 12:01 )gunz Wrote: [ -> ]Lets put this dead. you personal opinion cannot be changed
Bullshit! šŸ˜ Over the years this site has proved that my opinion and opinion of the visitors can be changed and does change! Again, have a look at the beginning of the thread and how it evolved šŸ˜
(22 Feb 2020, 18:43 )cbshackle Wrote: [ -> ]I work with many trans individuals in support groups (like PFLAG in the US)Ā and on several panels for LGBTQ healthcare. HRT helps in so many ways. I have seen lives changed for the better and trans regret (people who de-transition and/or regret transition is very low (like < 3% ). Many times that 3% is from people who have too much social or family pressure against them transitioning.

You are talking about transitioning as a whole, not HRT in particular. Some time ago I posted these links to meta-researches confirming this: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...3#pid30093
(22 Feb 2020, 12:12 )gunz Wrote: [ -> ]And seems to be that both are at least 18+
I asked for 28+ šŸ˜Š

(22 Feb 2020, 02:01 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]who began HRT after 28yo
(22 Feb 2020, 12:01 )gunz Wrote: [ -> ]Also why do you keep latching onto the younger trans ppl? U do know that the differences between a girl and a boy before puberty VERY smallĀ when you look away from clothing style, hairstyle, and the exterior otherwise.Ā 
Fully agree and exactly what I said multiple times earlier:

(22 Feb 2020, 00:06 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]or the person was too young and looked quite like a girl aeady, and all what is needed is the proper clothes, make-up and hair style.
(22 Feb 2020, 01:01 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]Just take a young good looking boy and dress him like a girl, voila!
(22 Feb 2020, 12:01 )gunz Wrote: [ -> ]And why is an operation in the face so wrong?
Nothing wrong with it. Exactly the opposite, I said, that FFS does much more for feminization, than HRT. Hence HRT is not needed if FFS is planned or necessary to look like a girl.
(22 Feb 2020, 12:01 )gunz Wrote: [ -> ]Puberty blockers is NOT HRT. so please at least admit you are wrong there and correct yourself there
Where did I say, that "puberty blockers" = HRT? Please paste a link.

Still, puberty blockers (e.g. GnRH leuprorelin, histrelin or antiadrogen bicalutamide) are hormones (so it is a hormone therapy), that "inhibit the action of testosterone", what is a part of HRT.
(22 Feb 2020, 12:01 )gunz Wrote: [ -> ]Also again HRT in MOST countries. at least in the EU seems to be 20 actually and not 18. so once again you are wrong.
Where did I say the opposite? Please paste a link.