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(13 Nov 2020, 15:35 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(13 Nov 2020, 15:25 )Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]I am aeady very feminine
That definitely helps!

But... how did you manage to look very feminine after years of serious swimming?

I don't know maybe genetics? For starters I have a very high metabolism and its difficult to put on weight/muscle. And second there is this test you can do called digit ratio where you measure the length of your ring finger compared to your index finger. Most men have longer ring fingers while women tend to have equal length fingers or index finger slightly longer. In my case, my index finger is noticeably longer.

If you look this up, this test actually can predict sexual orientation, personality traits (DS) and even success in the business and finance. So, in my case I must have been exposed to greater levels of pre-natal estrogen. Maybe that's why my body is the way it is and potentially being a biological marker/explanation for my trans feelings.
(13 Nov 2020, 15:36 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(13 Nov 2020, 15:25 )Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]my only concern is my voice, as with most trans people this is what gives them away.

Seen this? https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...2#pid45652

But it takes money...

Yeah I know😔

That's another reason why I envy genetic women so much is because they are born with a female physiology, while I and other trans people have to work so hard to even achieve a fraction of what is effortless to them.
(13 Nov 2020, 07:22 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(13 Nov 2020, 07:11 )Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, you still awake?
Yeah, I decided to skip sleeping tonight and get to bed earlier tomorrow. Kinda sleep disorder 😁

(13 Nov 2020, 07:11 )Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19591032/
"Autogynephilia in women"

Oh! Something new. Ooops, not quite:  published 08 Jul 2009 😁

Just noticed, that I still did not create a separate thread for Autogynephilia. A perfect post for such thread.

/offtopic
It's quite tricky to shuffle posts between different thread to keep them mostly on-topic

Hi Like Ra, have you started this thread yet? I have a very interesting video for this topic 😁
(13 Nov 2020, 16:37 )Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]Like Ra, have you started this thread yet? I have a very interesting video for this topic
Just create a new thread, if you have time. I will move the related posts later and fit a new general info post in the beginning.
(13 Nov 2020, 15:25 )Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]my only concern is my voice, as with most trans people this is what gives them away.

You can train your voice to sound passably feminine. I'm 185cm - 95kg; I have a stereotypically large male body and I was able to create a passable voice with no help from surgery or hormones (I did this years after I had stopped hormones).
Falsetto?
(13 Nov 2020, 21:20 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]Falsetto?

lol, Not at all. How would sounding like mickey mouse be passable?
Nah, falsetto shouldn't be that high. Jacob Collier uses falsetto a lot and he's very far (sonically, that is) from mice 😁
(13 Nov 2020, 01:21 )Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]
(13 Nov 2020, 00:26 )Sierra13 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't mean to interject in an amazing conversation, but I think the attraction to women is just your mind running on auto-pilot....If you truly want the attraction to disappear perhaps it aeady has...Ask yourself this question to see if there is any attraction to females left...Can you picture having intercourse with them or having oral sex with her...I was happily married(or so i thought) but the actual intercourse only happened 4 or 5 times in 19 years....other sexual times it was all oral, or she spooned me and reached around...I started hypnos 4 years ago and it made me realize that I wasn't attracted to women for sex anymore

Now that we have split up, I cannot picture having heterosexual sex with me as the man at all. I still catch myself looking at open cleavage, but ultimately there is no sexual attraction just jealousy...and I started HRT at 56 last month and living on my own...still have to portray male at work but at home i am free as i need to be

hope this helps

Thank you for joining the conversation Sierra!

To respond to your question, I can only picture having sex with guys but only if I was a female. If I had a choice (because I think I am trans) to switch back to being a straight male and have sex with women or magically push a button and only be a heterosexual woman for the rest of my life, i would choose the latter. When I am watching porn or hypnos I cannot imagine myself as having sex with females only oral and intercourse with guys (but only if I was her). I have no interest in gay sex. Although I think I have no interest in sex with women, I do still find them attractive/"sexy" (whatever that means). I am easily drawn to anything feminine. Like everytime I refresh the forum home page there are those provocative Aliexpress ads of attractive women in sexy outfits. And my eyes are drawn to those images while my brain recognizes that as "hot". But again I would much rather be her, live her life and wear her clothes. Essentially my perspective towards women is a mixture of attraction followed by strong envy of her femininity. I think if I were to be intimate with her, I think it would be very awkward as I would feel like a lesbian.

Also I am curious if HRT has had any noticeable effect on your orientation or sexuality?

Same! It's like you are speaking as me in every sentence

As being on HRT for only a month, I have to say, aeady got mosquito bites and I am really happy! I digress, my predisposed sexuality I feel was always as a female, my ex-wife wore the pants in the house, so now I would push the same button that you pushed. It's kind of impossible to find out yet, what with the pandemic raging here if I could be comfortable with a boyfriend, so I just keep to myself, and shop for my future self, but the idea seems plausible that I could

Is our sexuality or orientation defined by ourselves or by others? I ask because I was an only child and I was always with my mother, as my father worked out of town and he was only home on weekends...I was taken advantage of by an older male friend of mine when I was 10...I was exposed to Playboy magazines when I was a youngster, so I was raised to believe that the human body was a beautiful thing...also damage to my pituitary gland delayed puberty so late, that I was one of the first recipients of HGH to help kickstart my system and let's just say that growth didn't happen in other places

anyone else that is trans with similar experiences?
(14 Nov 2020, 06:10 )Sierra13 Wrote: [ -> ]aeady got mosquito bites and I am really happy!
Errrmmm... WHAT?