45 Responses to “Bolero single-glove. Self-bondage not possible”

1. Tom

   

   Hey,
   i bought this monoglove yesterday via airmail. hope it arrives tomorrow. i see this perfect monoglove and can’t wait to order it. ;-)… i have no partner and at the time no idea to use it in selfbondage but i hope to find an idea. maybe anything else can help me with this problem.
   best regards

   tom

   Comment :: October 26, 2009 at 18:49 :: Quote
2. Like Ra

   

   WOW! Congratulations!

   I would say that you definitely need a partner.

   I see only one selfbondage possibility. Forget about the zipper and use a rope with the D-rings. No cinch nooses, though. Only simple loops which you can easily undo by pulling the glove parts apart. To keep the rope under tension you can loop the rest of the rope around your waist or wrists.

   And please make photos!

   Comment :: October 26, 2009 at 23:27 :: Quote
3. Strappado

   

   This toy is awesome except for the zipper quality which sucks – cheapest quality. In theory, you simply put a rope onto the zipper and pull it up (and hopefully down too) over your shoulder – with the usual risk of accidents. So better have a phone ready that you can operate without your hands. Though, under a bit of stress, the zipper simply pops open. As soon as I can find a “kinky” taylor in my area, I will get a new safe zipper. Safe as in “doesn’t pop open” as well as in “very low-jam risk”. This problem might not be important when you are small enough and have narrow shoulders.

   Biggest trouble is to get the shoulders inside. I used two strings attached to clothepins to pull it into position, then a harder pull and the clothepins are off and it looks nice again.

   With belts on, you can do that as well, even close the neck belt (remember safety, if your arms are long, you might strangle yourself and thas was your last hype) and it is a bit tricky to get out again – though not impossible.

   One idea for emergency release, if you are not using the zipper: Have a knife or scissors hanging somewhere in a way that you can get it into your hands when needed, then cut the material to get free. If using the zipper, it is advisable to have some tool inside the bag that can’t hurt you – or a phone to call for help.

   Comment :: October 30, 2009 at 22:10 :: Quote
4. Strappado

   

   I got this toy and it is nice with one exception: For my size, it fits exactly and the zipper is so poor quality that it simply pops open when under stress, so I am going to have it replaced as soon as I find a taylor that I trust.

   If you can to put it on with straps and open zipper, and even manage to get both shoulders in, it feels pretty safe and restraining. I used clothepins with tiny ropes to do that, pulled them off after they did their jobs and hooray! It was a bit difficult to get free again, but in the worst case, you can probably manage to get one hand out between the lower belts and grab a tool or dial a phone.

   I was a bit afraid of the neck belt at first, but there is no strain on the front of my neck. I tested that with the help of a friend whom I trust a lot – though not a possible bondage partner.

   Comment :: October 30, 2009 at 22:27 :: Quote
5. Strappado

   

   ok, I am sorry, the first post was gone when I reloaded the page. Now there are two…

   Comment :: October 30, 2009 at 22:28 :: Quote
6. Like Ra

   

   So, basically we are back to the same old problem. I wonder if my idea of using rope loops is going to work …

   Comment :: October 30, 2009 at 22:28 :: Quote
7. Like Ra

   

   Strappado wrote:

   the first post was gone

   For some unknown reason it was held for moderation.

   Strappado wrote:

   Now there are two

   But they are different ;-) Sorry for the trouble, anyway.

   Comment :: October 30, 2009 at 22:37 :: Quote
8. Strappado

   

   In order to to the manufacturer justice: I just realised that the zipper on the pictures could be metal, while the one on my jacket is plastic. However, it was 30 EUR only (around 45 USD) so even though I have to get a new zipper, I don’t complain – gonna ask the seller though.

   Comment :: October 31, 2009 at 02:24 :: Quote
9. Like Ra

   

   But still, you can break it by using too much force. Or it can stuck, what happens pretty much often. Usual things…

   Comment :: October 31, 2009 at 02:56 :: Quote
10. Strappado

    

    Ok, now I played a bit with this thing and the zipper proved to be stronger than I expected, it won’t open accidently when it is properly closed :). I pushed as hard as I dared – being afraid to break the sewing instead, I had to open it with the sring instead. The trouble before happened when the slider went off one side while closing. Unlike the quality of the zipper, workmanship of this toy is pretty good and the moving parts of the zipper are far away from the seam. So I consider it quite safe for solo-play, chances for a jam are extremely low (still better have a backup, I might be wrong). Perhaps with just a better slider, it would be fine.

    I even have a vague idea how to make this temporarily unescapable. When the string that is used to close the zipper goes through the collar, you need a second string to open it. Now, it would require a reliable timing method to open the collar, perhaps these medical magnetic locks work.

    Another method to escape is the lower end of the zipper. If not sewed together, you can open it there and it will easily open all the way. But I haven’t got the remotest idea how to timelock that method.

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 00:30 :: Quote
11. Like Ra

    

    I’m still not sure about the zipper… Probably a backup seatbelt safety knife screwed down to a wall would be a good solution.

    About the timelocks. Is it possible to take several photos of the glove with close-ups and upload them, say, in the forum? In this thread? We may probably invent something…

    As for now I think only about an ice-lock preventing you from moving away from your position and pulling the slider.

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 01:47 :: Quote
12. Strappado

    

    I will try to make some close-ups and upload them but it could take a bit.

    As for that safety-belt-safety-knife, I don’t think it is of any use. Do you mean those z-shaped knifes with a blade inside? The only place where it could be used is the opening for the body, and that ends in a strong leather belt that can’t possibly be cut with that device. And that leather belt is always there, sewed to the collar. It would at least require another device to pierce the bag elsewhere first.

    I won’t argue further about the zipper safety. Generally, zippers are tricky and it doesn’t even need self-bondage to find out. Nobody should use this toy before carefully considering the risks by himself.

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 03:56 :: Quote
13. Strappado

    

    I am not able to log into the forum. I got registered, activation worked and even the reset-password-process worked, but it still doesn’t accept me ):

    As said, the photos will take a little while but I have a working idea on laced armbinders. Combined with the safety-belt-knife on the wall, it is both, safe and secure.

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 04:08 :: Quote
14. Like Ra

    

    Strappado wrote:

    I am not able to log into the forum.

    Did you get a confirmation mail? What is your username?

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 04:11 :: Quote
15. Like Ra

    

    Found. Strappado:
    Registered: 10-31-2009, 02:28 AM
    Last Active: 10-31-2009, 02:28 AM

    So, you are successfully registered. Did you get any errors?

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 04:13 :: Quote
16. Like Ra

    

    Strappado wrote:

    Do you mean those z-shaped knifes with a blade inside? The only place where it could be used is the opening for the body, and that ends in a strong leather belt that can’t possibly be cut with that device.

    OK, it was bad idea, then… :-\

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 04:15 :: Quote
17. Strappado

    

    As I said, I cannot log in.

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 17:02 :: Quote
18. Like Ra

    

    I mean do you get any errors like:
    o- wrong password
    o- username unknown

    Or just nothing? Are cookies allowed?

    Comment :: November 2, 2009 at 17:35 :: Quote
19. Strappado

    

    ok, solved, it was cookies.

    Comment :: November 4, 2009 at 02:42 :: Quote
20. Strappado

    

    I started a report about my experiences with this jacket:
    http://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showthread.php?tid=196

    Comment :: November 4, 2009 at 08:12 :: Quote
21. Strappado

    

    The bolero on ebay looks exactly the same. I have seen it on some .com website for pervert-prices, I got mine in Germany, so if you are near, I’ll give you the link. Or should I simply post it here?

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 03:07 :: Quote
22. Like Ra

    

    Yeah, I’m not far away. Sure, just post the link here.

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 03:17 :: Quote
23. Strappado

    

    http://www.latexguenstig.de/

    I tried to link the product page but that isn’t possible.
    “Bondage für alle” – “fesselndes” – page 4.

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 04:52 :: Quote
24. Like Ra

    

    Aha, found the glove. I like the price. I would buy it, but I want a lace version. What about this one?

    The glove looks quite tight but a bit short. They say 55cm. I measured my arm and if I don’t stretch my fingers the glove should cover about 10cm over the elbow. Also it can be tightened even more with the laces.

    A good candidate?

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 10:25 :: Quote
25. Strappado

    

    Here are the measurements of mine, which is a good length and width for me (elbows don’t touch, instead it is still tight but very comfortable for longer wear:

    length: 66 cm inside
    width at top: 45 cm, fully closed
    width at bottom: none
    strap length long end 96 cm
    strap length short end with buckle 12 cm

    As mentioned before, I am 1.80 cm tall, neither fat nor athlete. If your size is similar, don’t get a much shorter one. If your elbows aren’t well inside the glove, it isn’t secure for two reasons: You can probly pull one arm out while holding the glove down with the other hand and unless you got a real good quality leather glove, you might be able to tear off a strap while struggling, perhaps not the first time but little by little. When an elbow is almost out, it will develop enormous shearing strength.

    So better don’t get that one. The design is quite similar to mine but it might be too small. If I see a suitable one, I will let you know.

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 21:54 :: Quote
26. Strappado

    

    By the way, I got my monoglove after seemingly endless ebay hunting (they are theoretically banned from ebay Germany).

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 22:01 :: Quote
27. Strappado

    

    my wettest dream:

    http://restraintsblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/full-length-leather-corset-armbinder.html

    unfortunately the ebay-link doesn’t work and anyway, I can’t afford it for the moment.

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 22:05 :: Quote
28. Like Ra

    

    Strappado wrote:

    As mentioned before, I am 1.80 cm tall, neither fat nor athlete. If your size is similar,

    Mmm… I’m 175… But 66cm is 11cm longer and I’m not sure they measured that inside the glove. But for that price… Probably I can buy both. The bolero one and that 55cm long.

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 22:11 :: Quote
29. Strappado

    

    55 cm might be okay. I prefer longer because right above the elbows the arms are quite sensitive to pressure. If you have ever tried to tie your elbows together with rope or straps, you probably know. But even in my monoglove the arms start going numb eventually.

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 23:05 :: Quote
30. Like Ra

    

    Strappado wrote:

    But even in my monoglove the arms start going numb eventually.

    That’s bad. I hoped the pressure would be evenly distributed.

    Comment :: November 7, 2009 at 23:16 :: Quote
31. Strappado

    

    Like Ra wrote:

    …the pressure would be evenly distributed.

    That is why the arms aren’t going numb so quickly. However, the blood vessels are under more pressure than normally. And naturally there is extra pressure where the glove ends.

    Comment :: November 8, 2009 at 07:54 :: Quote
32. Strappado

    

    But compared to a strap around the arms right above or below the elbows, a monoglove is extremely comfortable!

    Comment :: November 8, 2009 at 07:56 :: Quote
33. Like Ra

    

    Strappado wrote:

    And naturally there is extra pressure where the glove ends.

    By the top edge… I think only “made to measure” gloves are free from this feature. Lots of pressure can be applied to the area between the wrists and the elbows, and this is all what’s needed to bind elbows together. They will be touching each other, but it will be very comfortable.

    Comment :: November 8, 2009 at 20:19 :: Quote
34. Like Ra

    

    Did not notice this glove. 62cm long (and can be made shorter or longer), 2mm latex, and according to the photo can be tightened so the elbows will touch each other. What do you think?

    Comment :: November 8, 2009 at 21:18 :: Quote
35. Strappado

    

    Like Ra wrote:

    and according to the photo can be tightened so the elbows will touch each other. What do you think?

    Using my method, you can’t tighten it a lot or you would need very long straps and a buckle-devices for each side. Unless you find a way to tighten the laces while you are in.

    Comment :: November 9, 2009 at 01:20 :: Quote
36. Like Ra

    

    Strappado wrote:

    Unless you find a way to tighten the laces while you are in.

    I have a couple of ideas. I wish I could draw… Will try something later…

    Comment :: November 9, 2009 at 03:32 :: Quote
37. Strappado

    

    A few hints about the bolero single glove for those who want to try it in self-bondage:

    - It is not safe out-of-the-box!
    - As long as the zipper is closed, there is no way out.
    - For safety reasons, simply assume that once you have closed the zipper, it won’t open.
    - It is quite impossible to get any tools, knifes or whatever inside the bolero once it is closed.

    In the forum I described an emergency exit which requires some preparation. It is reliable when you don’t use straps and your fingers aren’t numb. It might degrade the zipper slowly.

    Comment :: November 10, 2009 at 01:15 :: Quote
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39. Dan

    

    I have done self-bondage with armbinders a number of times, and have a few different types. My favorite is a standard black leather model with two shoulder straps. I can get my arms inside and use a door handle to push the straps over my shoulders. Not too difficult to get in, and can use a handle to push the straps back off to get out.

    This one is even easier. It is stretchy and I can get my arms in without the assistance of a door, while the straps are already over the shoulders:

    http://www.sub-shop.com/4772asatinprisonsoftarmbinder.aspx

    The downside is that you don’t feel so restrained knowing you can get out without removing the shoulder straps. Another downside is that since the material is stretchy, if you put a lot of pressure on it (which you do getting in and out improperly in self-bondage), it can pop threads in the seams and it starts coming apart and needs occasional repair.

    Comment :: November 12, 2009 at 18:07 :: Quote
40. Strappado

    

    I am using my monoglove with straps crossed on the chest, no way to pull them off. It is still possible to slide in one arm, tighten one strap until that arm is trapped, slide in the second arm and use the prepared buckle system to tighten beyond escape.

    Comment :: November 13, 2009 at 21:46 :: Quote
41. Old Sarge

    

    Here is how to do Single glove self bondage

    Comment :: November 25, 2009 at 19:21 :: Quote
42. Strappado

    

    Ok, that is a working method but I don’t like the endless straps following you about wherever you go. With my method you end up in a monoglove almost exactly as if someone else helped you in and if the strap is long enough to grab it with your teeth, you don’t even need a string. I even thought about covering the monoglove with a cape and go for a walk (imagine those straps then). Unfortunately, my area is amazingly busy even at night and there are a few people, that I would not like to meet in the dark when bound.

    Besides the aesthetical aspect of the extra long straps, they also are a safety issue. Getting strangled by one of them us beyond any backup method, although, choking on a ball gag while getting sick, is much more likely. Admittely, it requires some phantasy to imagine possible accidents, but in the end, that is how most accidents happen.

    Comment :: November 25, 2009 at 20:47 :: Quote
43. Like Ra

    

    Old Sarge wrote:

    Here is how to do Single glove self bondage

    This is a way to pull the glove on. Unfortunately, you can’t tighten it:

    Comment :: November 26, 2009 at 00:01 :: Quote
44. Like Ra

    

    Strappado wrote:

    I even thought about covering the monoglove with a cape and go for a walk

    … an immediate swarm of mental pictures …

    Comment :: November 26, 2009 at 00:06 :: Quote
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