Femininity

[Like Ra]

OK, I finally tweaked the coding of the post, so it renders correctly now. Let's go piece by piece.

But if they are not natural for you, they don't look unnatural so, that's the point. 

You don't seem awkward in these photos so why would a men taking women position not looking natural because he's a men? 

What I mean is that in the usual "unstaged" life, or when I'm not crossdressing, or when I'm not trying to imitate "what I called femininity", I never sit, stand or move like this. Because it's unnatural for me. All these poses were carefully (and sometimes even painfully) were "constructed" by my wife, by physically moving parts of my body to look correctly on the photo. By myself, I would never be able to do that. In some poses I had to hold my breath and balance for a couple of seconds before I would "fall" to a more stable position. Yet, it was fun!

Do you walk with your knee 30cm appart?

I walk like on skies 😁 My wife taught me how to properly walk on heels:
   

And the first two rules are:

o- STRAIGHTEN YOUR KNEES!
o- KEEP YOU KNEES TOGETHER!

😁

[no smile]

What I mean is that in the usual "unstaged" life, or when I'm not crossdressing, or when I'm not trying to imitate "what I called femininity", I never sit, stand or move like this. Because it's unnatural for me.

The thing is, most of the time, when you learn some new pose/movement/attitude, even if it's not easy at first, with time and practice, your body will handle it perfectly. It's the same if you try a new way to dance. Taking such pose is not "born natural" for women. It's deeply learned from the early beginning of life trough how the society shows you how you should look...

My wife taught me how to properly walk on heels:


And the first two rules are:

o- STRAIGHTEN YOUR KNEES!
o- KEEP YOU KNEES TOGETHER!

😁

Yeah, heel walking is quite a learning 😊 But I did it on my own since my gf does not walk like that in heels 😉 (she does not wear heel that often too sadly) Again, it's all learning, nothing "born natural".

And about Ophelia's photo, it's such a bimbo you could never 100% sure it's a woman. This kind of photo, take some "feminine" attribute and exaggerate it but this could perfectly be a man.

[Like Ra]

And about Ophelia's photo, it's such a bimbo you could never 100% sure it's a woman.  This kind of photo, take some "feminine" attribute and exaggerate it but this could perfectly be a man.

Oh yes, she is! Search for Ophelia Overdose

           

(photos are subject-related)

[no smile]

I was talking about the photo... I know she's a woman.

[Like Ra]

Yeah, I just love these photo 
But if they are not natural for you, they don't look unnatural so, that's the point. 

Have a look at the last paragraph of this post: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...4#pid36584 😁

[princesitanatty]

Have you reach any conclusions in this thread so far? Are there positions in conflict? I think there is an innate tendency to have some traits in a specific point of a feminine - masculine spectrum, and that the point is usually, but not always, aligned with biological sex.

[Like Ra]

Have you reach any conclusions in this thread so far?

Hang on... I'm drawing a picture...

[princesitanatty]

Have you reach any conclusions in this thread so far?

Hang on... I'm drawing a picture...

I don't understand your reply.

[no smile]

Yeah, I just love these photo 
But if they are not natural for you, they don't look unnatural so, that's the point. 

Have a look at the last paragraph of this post: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...4#pid36584  😁

Well, I don't get your point here.  

If you mean your think your photo does not look natural, I can say this is not true.  But it can be weird to you, the same way your recorded voice sounds weird.

Bit, if by this, you mean your body cannot adapt to these, I can tell you there are women who can't too.  And some boys do it all naturally.  And the reverse is also true.  Some boy cannot make "masculine" gesture, some women have difficulty and some cannot.
Each body has its own limits, but do you really think Ophelia poses naturally like that, without effort or learning?  I don't recall finding early photo of Ophelia overdose but I do recall comparing early photo of Bianca Beauchamp and they do not look the same as her present work.  So she clearly learned how to make things better.

It does change any of my point.

[no smile]

Have you reach any conclusions in this thread so far?

Hang on... I'm drawing a picture...

I don't understand your reply.

I think Likera is trying to make a sum-up of your position which is quite a challenge with all our discussion/divergence/...