13 Mar 2022, 22:22
Слава Україні
"We who have seen war, will never stop seeing it. In the silence of the night, we will always hear the screams. So this is our story, for we were soldiers once, and young."
Joe Galloway
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 Слава Україні "We who have seen war, will never stop seeing it. In the silence of the night, we will always hear the screams. So this is our story, for we were soldiers once, and young." Joe Galloway
13 Mar 2022, 22:59
(13 Mar 2022, 22:15 )vasil Wrote: p.s. Putin created a system in which my son had 3 heart surgeries for free. he is alive and probably will live for a long time. and many other things.I know very well how medicine works in Britain. we are not Israel , but it is not Yeltsin 's russia at all You are trying to justify war using your son's free medical care. OMG. P.S. in my country all medical care is free for everybody. Even for unemployed people. Even for Russian who came to my city to get FREE antiCovid vaccine approved by FDA/EMA. It is still free of charge for any person from anywhere from the world, so you are welcome. Our medical teams are working during weekend also. Sputnik 5 is not approved in EU. Слава Україні "We who have seen war, will never stop seeing it. In the silence of the night, we will always hear the screams. So this is our story, for we were soldiers once, and young." Joe Galloway 
13 Mar 2022, 23:53
(13 Mar 2022, 23:49 )Like Ra Wrote:(13 Mar 2022, 22:59 )Vixien Wrote: You are trying to justify war using your son's free medical care. OMG.Not the war, but support for Putin, from what I understand. Well, but can you support Putin's war because he improved health system ? Ok, you can close one eye because of your personal situation, but from @vasil's post it is clear that he supports Putin in everything. We (and not only we) have similar situation here with a local politician. Everybody knows he is stealing, but he also gave some to us, meaning he is ok. No, he is not. In general, using someone's health to support bad behaivor is a top cynicism. I do understand people in such situation, but this is not something that should not be used in context of this topic. Слава Україні "We who have seen war, will never stop seeing it. In the silence of the night, we will always hear the screams. So this is our story, for we were soldiers once, and young." Joe Galloway (13 Mar 2022, 22:15 )vasil Wrote: Putin created a system in which my son had 3 heart surgeries for freeYes, I see what you mean. This is what all Putin's supporters say - "We did not have this or that 20 years ago". As always, it's "multidimensional". o- Every government has tasks it must fulfil. Governments are paid (taxes) to fulfil these tasks. And citizens have rights. Think of human rights, fundamental rights, constitutional rights. It's a huge mistake to say "Thank you Mr. President for my education! Thank you Ministers for filling in my tooth!" Thank your teachers and your dentist for that, not the government, because it's their basic function to organize such things on a high level. But if you do not have such ability (education, medical help, roads, electricity), then you must complain to the government. See what I mean? Kids get educated not because of Putin. o- 20 years ago we did not have smartphones, Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, flat TVs... There is such thing as progress. See what I mean? You have a smartphone not because of Putin. o- In most of the countries you will get surgery without additional payments, provided you pay for medical insurance. o- In some countries medical service is free. o- Your son is lucky to get into the quota, hence the surgery was free. Not everybody is that lucky. o- In USSR the medical help was free. See what I mean? Your son got free surgeries not because of Putin. o- Thanks to Navalny and FBK we know how much of your money got stolen by the corrupt government. Without corruption "not so lucky people" wouldn't need to ask for money for their sick kids in social networks. See what I mean? Your son got free surgery not because of Putin, but despite him. Sorry.... And, once more, wish him the best of luck from all of us! One note. o- On Feb 24 Putin destroyed two countries. Russia is thrown 30 years back. One exception though - in the 90's the whole world (including America) was helping Russia. In the 20's the whole world despises Russia. And in this case, it's because of Putin.
Thanks @vasil for bringing it up here. I think I (at least) feel much more confident, patient and much less overwhelmed with emotions now (while discussing these matters).
BTW, this reminds me the lengthy discussion in this thread: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=1483 But it was MUCH hotter and with MUCH more emotions from all sides. I think we all do learn! Source: https://twitter.com/Activatica/status/15...2055057416 I don't know how to copy video only... Слава Україні "We who have seen war, will never stop seeing it. In the silence of the night, we will always hear the screams. So this is our story, for we were soldiers once, and young." Joe Galloway Quote:Два слова - и ты в автозаке: сколько нужно секунд, чтобы тебя задержали на Манежной площади. Спойлер: полторы #StopPutin #StopWar The first girl showed a piece of paper with "Two words", what is an euphemism for "No war". It took 1.5 sec to wipe her off. The second girl asked if she can express an opposite opinion, and she, actually, ..... She could not even finish her phrase. Let's check if I can post this video with English subscripts (scroll down): Source: https://twitter.com/JamOladyi/status/150...9264862216 Welcome to Putin's Russia. |
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