(sorry for lower quality pics, the lighting in my room isn't super good, and these are frames taken from a video, not actual pictures, as I am doing this by myself and obviously cannot take pictures)
So I got myself the vacuum sleep bag from euro catsuits, and have done a few sessions with it.
In the one pictured above, I was also wearing a mask, and vacuumed the bag with my own breath using a tube from my mouth to the end of the one way valve attachment at my feet.
I also recently did another session where i did in fact use a vacuum to suck out the air.
These sessions have been a cool experience, and in all cases, i am able to escape on my own simply because I get sweaty and it becomes fairly easily to slip my hand towards the neck gasket and let air in.
I imagine if I wanted it to be truly inescapable (for which i'd want someone else present, If i ever find such a person) that I'd want wear clothes for added friction and to stop me from sliding sweaty skin on sweaty skin. Ideally a latex catsuit so that I still have the feeling of latex on my skin, but I do not own one at the moment. Alternatively maybe some rope ties to keep my hands in place, and then slipped into the sack.
While these solo sessions have been fun, there is one thing I've not been quite satisfied and am not sure how to fix. This problem is the same whether I use a vacuum or my own breath via a tube: The vacuum effect gets much tighter on my feet and legs, but doesn't seem to get quite as tight around my torso/arms/hands. I think this is simply due to the one way valve for the vacuum being at my feet, so the air gets sucked out from there more, and as it pulls the latex super tight to my skin on my legs, it ends up basically "blocking" the path for air to be fully sucked out from the rest of the bag, higher up by my torso. A typical vacuum bed would probably have this problem too if all the air was sucked out from the same spot, but the suction is dispersed from all sides via pvc piping with holes drilled throughout.
Anybody have any ideas how i could get a tighter vacuum throughout the whole sack? As it is, it just doesn't feel crazy tight on my arms and hands. you can really see a clear, crisp line between my legs as the suction is tight there, but the outlines becomes less crisp for my fingers and between my arms and torso. If you've ever seen encasedlatex's content, he always seems to get a really great and tight vacuum, and you can really clearly see everything outlined as it's super tight. Here's a picture of him in one of his sacks:
EDIT: found a pretty cool solution to my problem of the suction not getting as tight as I desire:
I also own a full body stocking sack (see picture) that's basically the same thing as my vacuum sack, it fully encases the body and you enter through the neck, but it's instead made of a nylon/spandex of some sort. I double layered myself with this body stocking on first and then the latex vacuum sack, and it seems even that very thin layer of material is enough to help disperse the suction through the entire sack, and it gets nice and tight.
Nylon encasement also feels very nice on the skin and I enjoy that as well. So this basically combines that with the compression and restriction of a latex vacuum sack. I do find it is a bit harder to move my arm up to the neck hole to escape with the added friction of the body stocking, but still nothing that the lube of my own sweat prevents me from doing, still very much escapable for solo bondage.
(This post was last modified: 31 Oct 2023, 22:15 by Peeklemeekle.)
Maybe you could try two PVC tubes (~ 1cm diameter should do) starting between your legs and ending at your armpits. These positions should be the last to get out of air.
An upgrade could be too drill small holes into the tubes each 5-10 cm.
If you want a tighter Vacuum, make sure that the end of the tube, that you use to suck, doesn’t get clogged. You can do this, by putting some fabric, for example a sock over the end of the Tube. This way the Latex of the sleeping bag walls doesn’t close the tube, and you can get a stronger Vacuum.
(This post was last modified: 30 Oct 2023, 01:38 by Like Ra.)
Maybe some fabric like a blanket that you lay down on that reaches from the suction point all the way up to around your shoulder blades will help extract more air. In my own experiments, many years ago, when I tried using large plastic bags I had the same issue. When I put a down blanket in to lay down on the difference was night and day, all air sucked out almost instantly including the air from the blanket making it hard and stiff adding an extra kind of restraint to it. It's like @ Vacbedbound suggested but my advice is to use a full one person down blanket, not just one sock. My experience was with large plastic bags, not latex so maybe a sock is enough but I'd suggest experimenting with more and fluffier fabric to guide all the air out.
(29 Oct 2023, 18:28 )Anne Wrote: Maybe some fabric like a blanket that you lay down on that reaches from the suction point all the way up to around your shoulder blades will help extract more air. In my own experiments, many years ago, when I tried using large plastic bags I had the same issue. When I put a down blanket in to lay down on the difference was night and day, all air sucked out almost instantly including the air from the blanket making it hard and stiff adding an extra kind of restraint to it. It's like @Vacbedbound suggested but my advice is to use a full one person down blanket, not just one sock. My experience was with large plastic bags, not latex so maybe a sock is enough but I'd suggest experimenting with more and fluffier fabric to guide all the air out.
I've done the sock thing before with some of my plastic vacbed experiments and it's done a decent job. But I can tell that won't be enough for this, as I can wiggle my toes around and put them kind of half way against where the one way valve tube is to make "space" for air to be sucked out, and it's not getting blocked by the latex sucking down and blocking the path for air to flow out. It's simply that it gets so tight around my legs it basically creates a seal before it can fully suck out all the air higher up by my torso/arms.
I had a eady thought about trying a towel or blanket of some sort that starts at the feet and goes all the way up the back, and I have a feeling that could do a decent job, but for a couple reasons I was hoping for a better solution. 1 is that in a way I feel like that would slightly ruin the experience of just you and the latex bag, having nothing but latex on skin contact all around your entire body. 2 there's really not a lot of extra room in the sack, even when it hasn't been vacuumed yet, it might be a bit hard to maneuver and make sure the blanket or towel is sitting just how I want it to. I a eady find it a bit of a workout to put the thing on by myself and pull the whole thing on via the neck entry around my entire torso and shoulders. Add a towel of some sort to the mix and it just adds one more thing to worry about and get in the way hahahaha. I may still give it a try regardless and see what I think.
Encasedlatex, the guy I mentioned in my original post, doesn't seem to have anything but himself inside the sack and manages to get it amazingly tight, I don't know how he does it! I don't know if any of his paid content with longer videos would give any insight, but I don't ever pay for that kind of content anywhere.
(This post was last modified: 29 Oct 2023, 23:21 by Peeklemeekle.)
(29 Oct 2023, 07:28 )jtr765 Wrote: Maybe you could try two PVC tubes (~ 1cm diameter should do) starting between your legs and ending at your armpits. These positions should be the last to get out of air.
An upgrade could be too drill small holes into the tubes each 5-10 cm.
Adding a solid object like PVC pipes inside a sack? The whole purpose of a sack is that it's just you and the sack, no need for pipes like a vacbed. It could work maybe but the idea feels wonky to me personally.
(29 Oct 2023, 23:18 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: I may still give it a try regardless and see what I think.
I did try this just now and it did in fact work. Used a bath towel. Felt so much tighter pressing around all my fingers and the lines were much crisper (little to no air pockets)
I'd love to achieve the same level of vacuum without having a towel behind my legs and back though, just me and the latex. Still no idea how I would do that, at least by myself. I'm thinking maybe if I had another person that was helping me out, maybe they could sort of "massage"/"push" the air pockets down towards the feet to get sucked out by the vacuum. Just a theory though.
Another problem I've also noticed is the air tends to leak a little faster though the neck opening than I thought it would. I think as I'm squirming around enjoying my latex prison, the latex lifts a bit off my neck here and there letting little bits of air in. I've also thought of a potential solution for this, but again, would rely on an outside helper - after I have the sack on, they could put a tight collar
of some sort around my neck to help hold the latex better in place around my neck. (Or a well fitted made to measure hood?)
Seems like I'd (potentially) have a lot of small nuisances solved if I just had a someone on the outside to help out. Cause as I also mentioned in my original post, an outside helper would also let me take things a step further to be completely helpless by being tied with rope inside the sack or wearing clothes of some sort to prevent myself from being able to slide my hands up to the neck hole in all of my sweat.
If I only I had someone kinky to play with, the struggles of solo limitations! 😂
(30 Oct 2023, 01:21 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: (29 Oct 2023, 23:18 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: I may still give it a try regardless and see what I think.
I did try this just now and it did in fact work. Used a bath towel. Felt so much tighter pressing around all my fingers and the lines were much crisper (little to no air pockets)
I'd love to achieve the same level of vacuum without having a towel behind my legs and back though, just me and the latex. Still no idea how I would do that, at least by myself. I'm thinking maybe if I had another person that was helping me out, maybe they could sort of "massage"/"push" the air pockets down towards the feet to get sucked out by the vacuum. Just a theory though.
Another problem I've also noticed is the air tends to leak a little faster though the neck opening than I thought it would. I think as I'm squirming around enjoying my latex prison, the latex lifts a bit off my neck here and there letting little bits of air in. I've also thought of a potential solution for this, but again, would rely on an outside helper - after I have the sack on, they could put a tight collar
of some sort around my neck to help hold the latex better in place around my neck. (Or a well fitted made to measure hood?)
Seems like I'd (potentially) have a lot of small nuisances solved if I just had a someone on the outside to help out. Cause as I also mentioned in my original post, an outside helper would also let me take things a step further to be completely helpless by being tied with rope inside the sack or wearing clothes of some sort to prevent myself from being able to slide my hands up to the neck hole in all of my sweat.
If I only I had someone kinky to play with, the struggles of solo limitations! 😂
don't know if it would be sturdy enough, but maybe a pool noodle with some holes cut in it could be flexible enough to not overly ruin the experience, maybe snake a reinforced flexible hose thought it so it don't collapse, like a CPAP machine hose.
Also some saran wrap, or pallet wrap around your forearms could create enough friction to hold your arms in place, I would think it would at least delay how long it takes for sweat to accumulate and nullify the friction. I tried a pallet wrap self mummification once and without wrapping my arms and legs it was super easy to escape from, but once my arms and legs were wrapped it was time to wiggle to a knife I mounted on the frame of my bed to get free. I had created sock mittens and couldn't break the plastic with a half dozen pairs of socks padding my fingers.
for your neck hole the same pallet wrap (loosely) around your upper chest and lower neck might make a better seal.
of course all that doesn't really leave much room to escape, but that suit looks amazing, I wonder if I can get one in size "fluffy".
(30 Oct 2023, 04:14 )bellmar Wrote: (30 Oct 2023, 01:21 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: (29 Oct 2023, 23:18 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: I may still give it a try regardless and see what I think.
I did try this just now and it did in fact work. Used a bath towel. Felt so much tighter pressing around all my fingers and the lines were much crisper (little to no air pockets)
I'd love to achieve the same level of vacuum without having a towel behind my legs and back though, just me and the latex. Still no idea how I would do that, at least by myself. I'm thinking maybe if I had another person that was helping me out, maybe they could sort of "massage"/"push" the air pockets down towards the feet to get sucked out by the vacuum. Just a theory though.
Another problem I've also noticed is the air tends to leak a little faster though the neck opening than I thought it would. I think as I'm squirming around enjoying my latex prison, the latex lifts a bit off my neck here and there letting little bits of air in. I've also thought of a potential solution for this, but again, would rely on an outside helper - after I have the sack on, they could put a tight collar
of some sort around my neck to help hold the latex better in place around my neck. (Or a well fitted made to measure hood?)
Seems like I'd (potentially) have a lot of small nuisances solved if I just had a someone on the outside to help out. Cause as I also mentioned in my original post, an outside helper would also let me take things a step further to be completely helpless by being tied with rope inside the sack or wearing clothes of some sort to prevent myself from being able to slide my hands up to the neck hole in all of my sweat.
If I only I had someone kinky to play with, the struggles of solo limitations! 😂
don't know if it would be sturdy enough, but maybe a pool noodle with some holes cut in it could be flexible enough to not overly ruin the experience, maybe snake a reinforced flexible hose thought it so it don't collapse, like a CPAP machine hose.
Also some saran wrap, or pallet wrap around your forearms could create enough friction to hold your arms in place, I would think it would at least delay how long it takes for sweat to accumulate and nullify the friction. I tried a pallet wrap self mummification once and without wrapping my arms and legs it was super easy to escape from, but once my arms and legs were wrapped it was time to wiggle to a knife I mounted on the frame of my bed to get free. I had created sock mittens and couldn't break the plastic with a half dozen pairs of socks padding my fingers.
for your neck hole the same pallet wrap (loosely) around your upper chest and lower neck might make a better seal.
of course all that doesn't really leave much room to escape, but that suit looks amazing, I wonder if I can get one in size "fluffy".
Pool noodle is an interesting idea, but that seems more awkward then a bath towel, I'd rather use the bath towel imo.
As for the other ideas to be more stuck, I'm not looking to get permanently stuck at the moment until I have an outside helper 😂 but interesting ideas.
Eurocatsuits makes them according to the measurements you give, so it should be possible, unless they have maximum measurements of some sort? Not sure. Depending how 'fluffy" you are though I imagine it could get pretty difficult to put on since it's neck entry. Latex is very stretchy, but even with my skinny body, it def still takes a big of effort to get it up and over my torso and my shoulders through the relatively small neck hole.
(30 Oct 2023, 05:15 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: (30 Oct 2023, 04:14 )bellmar Wrote: (30 Oct 2023, 01:21 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: (29 Oct 2023, 23:18 )Peeklemeekle Wrote: I may still give it a try regardless and see what I think.
I did try this just now and it did in fact work. Used a bath towel. Felt so much tighter pressing around all my fingers and the lines were much crisper (little to no air pockets)
I'd love to achieve the same level of vacuum without having a towel behind my legs and back though, just me and the latex. Still no idea how I would do that, at least by myself. I'm thinking maybe if I had another person that was helping me out, maybe they could sort of "massage"/"push" the air pockets down towards the feet to get sucked out by the vacuum. Just a theory though.
Another problem I've also noticed is the air tends to leak a little faster though the neck opening than I thought it would. I think as I'm squirming around enjoying my latex prison, the latex lifts a bit off my neck here and there letting little bits of air in. I've also thought of a potential solution for this, but again, would rely on an outside helper - after I have the sack on, they could put a tight collar
of some sort around my neck to help hold the latex better in place around my neck. (Or a well fitted made to measure hood?)
Seems like I'd (potentially) have a lot of small nuisances solved if I just had a someone on the outside to help out. Cause as I also mentioned in my original post, an outside helper would also let me take things a step further to be completely helpless by being tied with rope inside the sack or wearing clothes of some sort to prevent myself from being able to slide my hands up to the neck hole in all of my sweat.
If I only I had someone kinky to play with, the struggles of solo limitations! 😂
don't know if it would be sturdy enough, but maybe a pool noodle with some holes cut in it could be flexible enough to not overly ruin the experience, maybe snake a reinforced flexible hose thought it so it don't collapse, like a CPAP machine hose.
Also some saran wrap, or pallet wrap around your forearms could create enough friction to hold your arms in place, I would think it would at least delay how long it takes for sweat to accumulate and nullify the friction. I tried a pallet wrap self mummification once and without wrapping my arms and legs it was super easy to escape from, but once my arms and legs were wrapped it was time to wiggle to a knife I mounted on the frame of my bed to get free. I had created sock mittens and couldn't break the plastic with a half dozen pairs of socks padding my fingers.
for your neck hole the same pallet wrap (loosely) around your upper chest and lower neck might make a better seal.
of course all that doesn't really leave much room to escape, but that suit looks amazing, I wonder if I can get one in size "fluffy".
Pool noodle is an interesting idea, but that seems more awkward then a bath towel, I'd rather use the bath towel imo.
As for the other ideas to be more stuck, I'm not looking to get permanently stuck at the moment until I have an outside helper 😂 but interesting ideas.
Eurocatsuits makes them according to the measurements you give, so it should be possible, unless they have maximum measurements of some sort? Not sure. Depending how 'fluffy" you are though I imagine it could get pretty difficult to put on since it's neck entry. Latex is very stretchy, but even with my skinny body, it def still takes a big of effort to get it up and over my torso and my shoulders through the relatively small neck hole.
I was thinking with the pool noodle having less of a profile to be against your skin, but yeah a towel would be easier. I read a post about a vacuum bed having the inside frame of PVC pipe, with towels wrapped around them to even out the air flow. but I think I wasn't very clear with the pallet wrap, I was thinking like Some pallet wrap bracelets and anklets, adding some friction and locking you in longer, sweat would still eventually let you out, "I think" you would just have to wiggle until it worked from your body to inbetween the bracelets and the outer edge.
I'm pretty "fluffy" lol not sure a neck entry would ever work for me, but I'll look into it, maybe they could do a special design, what really got my attention was sucking out the air with your mouth through a check valve. not having to have a constant pump that could overheat and catch fire is a huge plus for self bondage.
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