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(24 Mar 2022, 21:07 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(24 Mar 2022, 20:08 )d7i Wrote: [ -> ]I have thought that poisoning with dioxin was confirmed. Even Lancet published paper about that made by doctors from UA and AT, who was observing Yuschenko for few years: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...0/fulltext
Yes, I read about the article in Lancet. I could not find if Yuschenko "was physically present" or only his blood was sent to the lab.

You see @vasil ? This is how every doubt shoud be discussed.
No one is fireing...
(22 Mar 2022, 18:57 )vasil Wrote: [ -> ]remind me, did they find chemical weapons in Iraq? what was in Colin's test tubes?
(22 Mar 2022, 20:24 )vasil Wrote: [ -> ]they couldn't find chemical weapons in Iraq, they tried very hard, they really needed it, but they couldn't. The test tube at the UN was a lie. They don't want to talk about it. Right?

Let's have a close look at this frequently used argument Russian government use as an excuse to invade UA:

"US can start a war in Vietnam and get away with it, why can't we do the same?"
"US can bomb Yugoslavia and get away with it, why can't we do the same?"
"US can invade Iraq and get away with it, why can't we do the same?"
"US has the death penalty and get away with it, why can't we do the same?"
"US can nuke Hiroshima/Nagasaki and get away with it, why can't we do the same?"
...etc...

While, indeed, US was/is not punished for lots of more than questionable and contradictory actions, and, indeed, this is an example of "whataboutism" manipulation technique, which steers the discussion away to a not quite comparable subject ("false analogy"), such "what-abouts" prove exactly the opposite:

When RU operation in UA is compared with US operation in Iraq, "they" say, that US lied about the chemical weapons in Iraq. What means, "they" confirm, that RU lies about nazism and genocide in UA, and their invasion has nothing to do with the official reasoning.

Also, US never acquired additional territories during those operations, unlike RU with Crimea.
Here is nice article about a journalist, who applied for a job of writing comments on YouTube to promote Russian point of view.
https://www.fontanka.ru/2022/03/21/70522490/
(22 Mar 2022, 18:19 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]It is unknown if Putin eats children for breakfast, but Russian army does bomb children:

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(22 Mar 2022, 18:57 )vasil Wrote: [ -> ][Image: post_2_1647973415_cf9c03bbd15168e66490eb..._thumb.jpg]   

And according to this "analogy", the shed was not bombed, because Russian pilots could not see the drawn kids from above.
(24 Mar 2022, 13:38 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(24 Mar 2022, 10:41 )Vixien Wrote: [ -> ]ex UA president Victor Juschenko, who was poisoned with dioxin in2004.
Not sure about poisoning... As of 2019, no proofs were found (officially). It's a dark story. None of the versions is confirmed.  There was one popular version, that he tried to rejuvenate himself with stem cells, but they grew up as cartilage pieces on his face, and dioxin was "manually added" to the blood samples.

Thanks to https://sci-hub.se/ I grabbed the full article (attached) and now I have no doubts, that he was poisoned:

Quote:We obtained written approval from the patient to release
peer-reviewed scientific information about his case. In
early January, 2005, we identified TCDD (108 000 pg/g
lipid weight) in our 50-year-old patient’s blood serum,
drawn under controlled conditions at the Geneva
University Hospital, Switzerland
(table 1), which was
more than 50 000 times the average levels of TCDD in
the general population.[17] Similar levels were identified by
an independent laboratory in a sample taken from the
same patient in mid-December, 2004
.[18]

Now I have more questions to UA Department of Justice.
When I started this thread, all I wanted to know was if any of our members were safe and well. Now it’s page 26.
So I’ll ask again... to any and all members of our group. Please check in and let all of us if your safe and ok.
Interesting analysis worthy of Google translating!

On "destructive memes" and "informational cascades".

https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03...zhi-i-very

Remember, we talked about egregors, sigils, and hypnosis? (Search the forum)

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(25 Mar 2022, 00:17 )Tinker D Wrote: [ -> ]if any of our members were safe and well.
I know only about one guy, who lived in Kiev suburb. But his last visit was 2 years ago.
I hope he is ok.

Hate to lose a member because of politics.
So to the missing member:
Be safe, take care of your love ones, and please check in.

Thank you.
(28 Mar 2022, 01:39 )Tinker D Wrote: [ -> ]So to the missing member:
Be safe, take care of your love ones, and please check in.
@k2log - are you there?
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