24 May 2021, 15:28 (This post was last modified: 24 May 2021, 15:29 by subyasha.)
I just completed 60 days of Pueraria Mirifica pills. The ones I bought are no longer available on Amazon which is a bit worrying but they were 3000mg pills that I took 1 a day.
The only changes are my nipples are slightly more sensitive and my sex drive was lower, but that may have been from it possibly reducing my testosterone a very minimal amount. That's it from things I noticed though, didn't notice any other changes.
I'm not a doctor or anything, so don't mind my silly words, but it would be interesting to analyze some blood tests to compare if/how your T levels are changing, don't share the details though, there are a lot of people who may misuse that information...
... on second thought, I guess that information can be aeady obtained on the internet if one searches for it... so, maybe sharing something as personal as a blood test isn't my brightest idea.
(24 May 2021, 15:28 )subyasha Wrote: but that may have been from it possibly reducing my testosterone a very minimal amount.
Estrogen does not decrease the testosterone level. They are not mutually exclusive.
That's right. Testosterone is lowered by taking an anti-adrogen such as spironolactone or ciperotone etc. Estrogen will only mildly affect testosterone levels.
24 May 2021, 23:41 (This post was last modified: 24 May 2021, 23:45 by Like Ra.)
(24 May 2021, 15:28 )subyasha Wrote: I just completed 60 days of Pueraria Mirifica pills. The ones I bought are no longer available on Amazon which is a bit worrying but they were 3000mg pills that I took 1 a day.
Are you sure it is Pueraria Mirifica and not Pueraria Lobata? Usually such dosage is for Lobata. What was the colour of the powder? Did the pills come from Thailand or China? PL does not contain miroestrol.
24 May 2021, 23:45 (This post was last modified: 24 May 2021, 23:52 by Like Ra.)
(19 May 2021, 02:26 )Zooy Wrote: Probably these phytoestrogens are rather overrated. One day I was discussing tofu cq soy products with a colleague and he reacted with: "I don't eat that. That can give you breasts." And that made me think that if that would be the case nearly all Japanese men should have big breasts. And the women there don't have big breasts either. Only in the manga.
Very valid points. Also, AFAIU, in Thailand they eat the tubers of PM, don't they? Wouldn't that be more than 250mg per 50kg? Or do I miss something?
Edit: how can we be sure, that the capsules do not contain estradiol instead of PM? 😂
Quote:According to Dr. Amin Herati, a urologist and the director of male infertility and men’s health at Johns Hopkins Medicine, there is no normal level of estrogen or testosterone. It’s all about balance.
“We’re looking for a testosterone-to-estrogen ratio, and their [testosterone-to-estrogen] levels should be 15 to 1… but too little of [estrogen] can be devastating for guys,” he says.
This depends on whether you’re experiencing symptoms.
“If [a patient’s] testosterone level is three times the expected normal and their estrogen level is also above normal, I won’t recommend any therapy as long as they’re asymptomatic,” says Herati. “The high level doesn’t always necessitate treatment.”
Quote:lots of factors can throw estrogen levels out of balance, including:
weight gain
older age
stress
tumors
hormonal conditions
. . .
There is an indirect relationship (with age); many 60-year-olds have more estrogen in their body than a 30-year-old,” says Herati. Male testosterone levels naturally drop 1 to 2 percent every year after age 30. By age 75, a male will have lost about 30 percent of the testosterone they had at 25.
. . .
health conditions that can result in decreased estrogen production include:
cardiovascular diseases
autoimmune conditions
hemochromatosis (too much iron in your blood)
hypogonadism (a condition that results in reduced sex hormone production)
extremely low body weight
. . .
Foods that are high in estrogen compounds include:
soybeans
garlic
celery
carrots
potatoes and sweet potatoes
apples
coffee
flaxseed
. . .
Do I need to avoid dairy and soy?
Short answer: No.
Quote:Symptoms of high estrogen
erectile dysfunction
migraines
weight fluctuation, specifically weight gain*
depression
high blood pressure in the lungs (pulmonary hypertension)*
prostate cancer*
enlarged breast tissue (gynecomastia)
High estrogen may also indicate a high risk of:
gynecomastia (large breast growth)
diabetes
cardiovascular issues like blood clots and stroke
breast or prostate cancer
Quote:Symptoms of low estrogen
delayed ejaculation
coronary heart and artery diseases*
delayed growth during puberty
bone loss, pain, and osteoporosis*
weight gain and insulin resistance*
depression
Symptoms marked with an asterisk (*) could become severe enough to warrant consulting a doctor.
The past half-century has witnessed a major paradigm shift in understanding of the role of E2 and other estrogens in the male. Originally considered female hormones, estrogens play critical roles in developing and adult male reproductive organs, especially the efferent ductules where ESR1 is essential for normal fluid reabsorption physiology. In addition, many male nonreproductive tissues express estrogen receptors and are regulated by estrogen. However, many questions remain unanswered. . .
eady obtained on the internet if one searches for it... so, maybe sharing something as personal as a blood test isn't my brightest idea.
