IQ boost hypnosis

[Zooy]

Maybe this should not be in this thread, but what about the opposite: can IQ be raised by hypnosis?
Vive has a file "inverse bimbo" that does, to some degree, reward intellectual activity.
But to actually increasing IQ would be something very interesting. (((and worth a lot of money))). Yet, if it is possible to lower someones IQ, why not the opposite?
Or is it so that humans like to be stupid? (starting stupid special actions etc).
Maybe the absence of intellect is something like entropy?
As you can see, this thread makes me think a lot. 😇

[Like Ra]

Maybe this should not be in this thread

Yes, let's make a new thread!

[wolford57]

This is a good thought exercise to demonstrate how silly all of this is. “Dumbing down” hypnosis is just role-playing an idea of what dumbness would feel like. So sure, you could roleplay pretending to be a super genius. Just don’t invest your life savings in a bunch of stock options or cryptocoins because you think you can see beyond the common man.

[Like Ra]

“Dumbing down” hypnosis is just role-playing an idea of what dumbness would feel like.

... you never know ... as the reality is plastic ... so is the brain ...

[Zooy]

It is rather difficult to define intelligence.
My private definition is your capability to deal with situations for which
you have not been specifically prepared.
IQ is easier: it is your ability to fill out IQ tests.
You can even study for that.
And some parts are meaningless. Example:
What is the next number in the series 3 1 4 1 5?
Depending on your background you might say 1, or 9. Or it might be the first
digits of the telephone number of your parents.
But one factor, definitely not the only, is surely your ability to concentrate on a subject.
My guess is that that is something that can be influenced by hypnosis, both
positively and negatively.

[Like Ra]

It is rather difficult to define intelligence.

Exactly this!
To all queries like "What makes a better ..... " the first reaction is "What are the criteria?" And the criteria depend on the situation. As some qualities can be mutually exclusive, yet extremely important in specific situations.

Ability to memorize huge blocks of random information can be less useful if faced something previously unknown.
Knowing virtually everything about "one thing" can be useless for "a different thing".
Can a genius mathematician be called a super intelligent if he can not tell Renoir from Picasso or Schubert from Shostakovich?

And again, any classification is wrong by definition 😆

[hypno.orgasmatronic]

It is rather difficult to define intelligence.
My private definition is your capability to deal with situations for which
you have not been specifically prepared.
IQ is easier: it is your ability to fill out IQ tests.
You can even study for that.
And some parts are meaningless. Example:
What is the next number in the series 3 1 4 1 5?
Depending on your background you might say 1, or 9. Or it might be the first
digits of the telephone number of your parents.
But one factor, definitely not the only, is surely your ability to concentrate on a subject.
My guess is that that is something that can be influenced by hypnosis, both
positively and negatively.

Improving one’s ability to focus and concentrate on something to the exclusion of any distractions could in many ways be desirable I would think, as would the power to disassociate or use one’s imagination to create temporarily artificial realities or expand creativity opens fascinating avenues.   Personally, I don’t dig the dumbing down reduced IQ stuff at all.  The best psychosexual induced kink drama I would think comes from the most plastic minds able to bend and process information quickly.   Much more fascinating and sexy than aspiring to be vapid.  I like this topic.

[wolford57]

Improving one’s ability to focus and concentrate on something to the exclusion of any distractions could in many ways be desirable I would think, as would the power to disassociate or use one’s imagination to create temporarily artificial realities or expand creativity opens fascinating avenues. Personally, I don’t dig the dumbing down reduced IQ stuff at all.

Being very intelligent is like being good looking, it comes with costs as well as benefits. 

My brain is a very noisy place and in most circumstances I am thinking about multiple things at the same time, often playing out multiple scenarios to absurd lengths to try and work out every possible outcome. I hear tons of voices in my head but because they are all mine I’m not considered crazy lol. 

The appeal of dumbing down is the idea of not thinking quite so hard and just living in the moment. It is the same reason why I think I enjoy heavy drinking but could care less for cocaine. It is true that being intelligent often means you can create very detailed fantasies, but I often feel like this is a negative. While a “normal” person can be happy with some good old fucking, maybe a seat on the ass or two, sex for me requires gear, planning, and so on to be equally enjoyable. 

Of course, my idea of “dumb” is also a porn fantasy. In reality dumb people are often distracted, anxious, full of worries, and so on, likely more so because the world is more difficult and confusing for them. This is why I why I say all iq hypnosis is roleplay.

[Lycalopex]

Well, what IQ lowering hypnosis actually does is train you not to think as hard or as deeply. The brain is like a muscle; it grows stronger and more developed the more it's used, and the opposite holds true. So, realistically, it may seem like roleplay for the first few weeks. But the brain is VERY good at "fake it until you make it", and by training yourself not to think deeply, not to exercise your mind, not to care about mistakes and such, not to consume media that would make you think-- your intelligence starts to atrophy. It starts as roleplay, but it ends up very real.

[Like Ra]

what IQ lowering hypnosis actually does is train you not to think as hard or as deeply.

Just like any meditation. Does it mean, that all meditations, in fact, lower IQ?