General hypnosis and NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) discussion

[Hazel]

3 times more permanent, than 0? 😁

What do you mean by this?

If someone says words "spirit", "ritual", "voodoo", "daemon" does it automatically make this person a powerful shaman?

No, but in the Kei thread you mentioned that Kei is in contact with some beings on a different plane and is gifted with these abilities

[Like Ra]

3 times more permanent, than 0?

What do you mean by this?

If the hypnosis does not work (as you said), how do you make it more permanent? 😉

If someone says words "spirit", "ritual", "voodoo", "daemon" does it automatically make this person a powerful shaman?

No, but in the Kei thread you mentioned that Kei is in contact with some beings and is gifted with these abilities

I never said that. It was a quote from 8chan and I disputed that claim. But you said, that I shouldn't say, that it does not work (or that it's a bullshit) for I might upset the creator 😁

[Hazel]

3 times more permanent, than 0?

What do you mean by this?

If the hypnosis does not work (as you said), how do you make it more permanent? 😉

If someone says words "spirit", "ritual", "voodoo", "daemon" does it automatically make this person a powerful shaman?

No, but in the Kei thread you mentioned that Kei is in contact with some beings and is gifted with these abilities

I never said that. It was a quote from 8chan and I disputed that claim. But you said, that I shouldn't say, that it does not work (or that it's a bullshit) for I might upset the creator 😁

Oh no, I mean it works excellently, except that it wears off after sometime and then my attraction to women reemerges first emotionally then physically. So i'm wondering if there is a more permanent solution or maybe I am not doing trance properly 🤔 😁

[Like Ra]

Just on case, you can quote only several words by highlighting them and clicking on the "Quote" button.

[Hazel]

Just on case, you can quote only several words by highlighting them and clicking on the "Quote" button.

Yes, that's what I did before (couple days ago) but now its stopped working. I'll use "-" to respond to your points instead.

[Like Ra]

Non-hypno stuff is moved to https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=1483

[Like Ra]

Oh no, I mean it works excellently, except that it wears off after sometime and then my attraction to women reemerges first emotionally then physically. So i'm wondering if there is a more permanent solution or maybe I am not doing trance properly

What NLPers say is that the SubConsciousMind (SCM) will do whatever you wish, however there are some rules.

1. There is a delay. Our ConsciousMind (CM) is too untrained and jumps from one subject to another several times per second, giving mutually exclusive orders. So, SCM waits and collects information.
2. There is the "ecology" test. If the order is harmful or toxic (in many senses), the request will either be rejected or significantly delayed.

What I noticed, there is also another feature: to calm you down and avoid doing stupid things for real, SCM distracts you by "saying" any things you want to "hear" now. But as soon as you are just a bit satisfied ("something seems to work"), everything is returned back to normal with no damage.

Actually, our bodies are quite resilient and are trying to save us alive no matter what. Unfortunately we do not listen to them or do not hear, when they can't cope with our stupidity and torture anymore and scream in pain. But we shut them up with pain killers and proceed with torture....

[Hazel]

Oh no, I mean it works excellently, except that it wears off after sometime and then my attraction to women reemerges first emotionally then physically. So i'm wondering if there is a more permanent solution or maybe I am not doing trance properly

What NLPers say is that the SubConsciousMind (SCM) will do whatever you wish, however there are some rules.

1. There is a delay. Our ConsciousMind (CM) is too untrained and jumps from one subject to another several times per second, giving mutually exclusive orders. So, SCM waits and collects information.
2. There is the "ecology" test. If the order is harmful or toxic (in many senses), the request will either be rejected or significantly delayed.

What I noticed, there is also another feature: to calm you down and avoid doing stupid things for real, SCM distracts you by "saying" any things you want to "hear" now. But as soon as you are a bit satisfied, everything is returned back to normal.

Actually, our bodies are quite resilient and are trying to save us alive no matter what. Unfortunately we do not listen to them or do not hear, when they can't cope with our stupidity and torture anymore and scream in pain. But we shut them up with pain killers and proceed with torture....

Leaving aside the topic of sexuality at the moment, the only reason I use hypnos (of the feminization genre) in general is because it gives me the positive feelings of having post-transitioned. An escapism if you will. So my body is the one that is torturing me daily by giving me feelings of gender dysphoria. I am just doing what I can with what I have to cover up that pain (at least until I safely can seek hrt treatment).

And just so you know how bad it is: somedays I wake up and look into the mirror and think what is the point of going on like this?...what is the point of  exerting all this effort to uphold an illusion, the lie i present to everyone?....What is the point of doing anything in life anymore as the wrong body/gender.

[princesitanatty]

- Big Pharma corporations are interested in getting billions of dollars from healthy, but gender dysphoric people

So say, that if i or anyone else has gender dysporia, do I just not take hormones even though the reason I have the dysporia is because I was not born with the ability to produce those hormones naturally?

I think there is a flaw in that argument. A headache is not caused by a lack of aspirin, a depression is not caused by a lack of Prozac, and gender dysphoria is not caused by a lack of natural production of hormones. They are options for treatment, but their absence is not the cause of the problem. We can value them for what they are.

[Like Ra]

Well where else would it be? Isn't the brain the only organ that can be conscious of those feelings? I mean gender can't be found in my arm, right?

Male brains don't think, feel or see themselves as female, lol.

Brain is just fat, fat can not think, feel or see itself as a male or female 😁

Intelligence Without Brains

https://www.worldsciencefestival.com/pro...ut-brains/

How much brain do you need to be smart? Bees and ants perform marvels as colonies, though each insect has barely any brain. And plants—with no brain at all—exhibit behaviors that, by any definition, count as intelligent. Brace yourself for a mind-bending exploration of plants that learn new behaviors and warn their brainless fellows of danger; vines that compete with each other; molds that solve puzzles; and trees that communicate and cooperate through a ‘wood-wide web’ of microscopic mycological fibers. Perhaps the real question is, are we smart enough to appreciate the vast range of intelligence that surrounds us?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpwW9Lw2Ku4