Religion

[Like Ra]

So now we have all three: sex, politics and religion.

... getting worse with each post ... 😆

And if you toss your signature into the mix...

orchids, tropical fish, sociobiology, theology, anatomy, latex and maybe BDSM.

...sadomazonecrotheozooflorophilia ... 😂 Ooohhh my... That's why I love this forum!

[SLL]

...sadomazonecrotheozooflorophilia ... 😂  Ooohhh my... That's why I love this forum!

ha ha ha!

Its sociobiology which is the really delicate topic.

[Like Ra]

sociobiology

No idea what this is, but sounds interesting!

[The inspector]

sociobiology

No idea what this is, but sounds interesting!

It’s a trap! Don’t do it! 😂😂

[B1u3]

Oh, looks like, I should answer now 😁

In fact, I'm a follower of Christ. I'm part of a baptist church and even have some responsibility there, including music, audio-visuals and preaching. But I'm not the pastor, please don't be mistaken there.
I've grown up in a household where all this played a major role throughout the whole live, and with around 14 I've decided to commit my life to Jesus Christ.
And yes, when I discovered that I have a faible for crossdressing, this was and is giving me a hard time all around.

I can fully understand what SLL means with the frame of marriage, and I'm married since two years, since a month ago now in an addition of a daughter.
My "fetish life" so to say was in the first years of course very secretive, but with my back-then girlfriend and lateron fiancee this got boosted. First she was very puzzled, but I told her about my desires right at the start of our romance. Lateron we have discovered a lot in the world of crossdressing, fetish especially in terms of clothing and sex in general. But 2013 I ended this relationsship and since then a lot of things changed, starting with my job.

Now with my wife she knows about all this, but she is not supportive at all. Since we've run out of space here in our flat I gave away all of the crossdressing stuff and some of the toys, but the rest only I use.
I sometimes have an urge to get some stuff again, but up to now this didn't result in anything.

In connection to my belief this is a difficult topic. There are some rules in the bible I totally respect, but at the other hand a lot of things have changed, and are today more or less the complete opposite. If I consider that Jesus has been wearing some sort of dresses...you know what I mean 😊

Regarding judging anyone: this is wrong, it is within my strong belief not for me to judge anyone for that what he (or she) is doing and especially believing. For sure I'm somehow "sad" for everyone who is not sharing my belief, but at the end everyone has to find his own way and has his own responsibility.

[The inspector]

Regarding judging anyone: this is wrong, it is within my strong belief not for me to judge anyone for that what he (or she) is doing and especially believing. For sure I'm somehow "sad" for everyone who is not sharing my belief, but at the end everyone has to find his own way and has his own responsibility.

This exactly.

its something that I find hardest to understand in life and certainly more recently. Regardless of if its faith/religion or sexuality. People are quick to judge and worst still force their “correct” views upon you. Even those you love and are closest to you.

“Disclaimer” the following may be a little to close to home so proceed with caution. “End Disclaimer”

LikeRa aeady knows this as I disclosed it in a PM, but I will put it for all to see as on hindsight I don’t want anyone to go through similar things. Because of others outing me and attempting to crush my feelings and desires, true they were sexual over religious, I attempted to take my own life only a few months ago, and very nearly succeeded. It was sheer fluke that I was found. The following few weeks and a lot of contemplation later I began to realise just how cruel people were and how people will happily try and shape you to fit in the status quo. As mentioned before I read a lot about religion and things like that and like look at the hostility towards one another and it quite frankly boils inside me. I will do anything for anyone and always like to think I treat those as I would like to be treated, yet I ended up in such a position that I wanted to end it all. 

It’s why I like to visit this forum so often, even if not to post. Just to read about peoples freedom to be themselves and do what makes them feel great or good about life. It’s one of the small things that helps me get by and live my life to its full potential. It’s also why I admire those that do believe, regardless of if their views match mine. They take a stand for what’s right for them, and in light of recent events I hold that quality in very high regard.

apologies if this wasn’t pleasant to read. Just wanted to put some context on my thought process.

[SLL]

sociobiology

No idea what this is, but sounds interesting!

It’s a trap! Don’t do it! 😂😂

Too late! Mwhahaha!



So, sociobiology is the study of how genetics. evolution and psychology interconnect. (Think E.O. Wilson, Dawkins, Pinker etc...) Brown’s list of universal traits/behaviors in all human populations includes "sexual modesty" expressed as sexual activity taking place out of sight. Now, what you need to think about is why are they sexually modest? Why do we perform sex out of sight? Do we want to avoid offending others? Is this because we are offended by seeing sex? Are we self-conscious of sex: we don’t want to be seen and we don’t want to see? This is in our DNA.



Lets go back to the Bible. So, firstly, the Bible isn’t about good and evil. It is about life and death: physical life and spiritual life. That is the choice given in Eden and the choice given in the closing portion of Deuteronomy. So I’m not going to talk about this or that being good or evil; but instead about affirming life or causing death.


Caveat: Ramban says that those who don't accept Genesis 1:1 don't have any Torah (Law). So, if you don't accept YHWH then you can't accept the below. But I try be like God and show kindness to those who don't agree with me. None of this is a criticism of you, the reader, it is just an exposition. If you don't follow YHWH then they should mean nothing to you... if they do upset you then you have to wonder why they do when you don't believe any of it? Regardless how you respond to the below, I am OK with how you are now and I am not intending to preach and change you.


Secondly, "sin is lawlessness" (1 John 3:4) so it is senseless to talk about "sin" without the Law. What is not innumerated as sin in the Bible isn’t "sin" in the strictest sense. The Bible has only 7 explicit prohibitions about sex:

1. No incest (Lev 18:6-18): no sex with father’s wife/mother’s husband, siblings, brother’s wife, mother and her daughter etc...

2. No sex during menstruation (Lev 18:19).

3. No adultery (Lev 18:20) which would include orgies and threesomes etc..

4. No non-heterosexual sex (Lev 18:22)

5. No bestiality (Lev 18:23)
6. No women/men passing themselves off as the opposite sex (Deut 22:5) I don't think this is about cross-dressing or even transvestites but about trying to deceive others, to start a relationship on a false pretext.

7. Marriage is consummated in sex (Genesis 2:23, Deut 22:13-21, 28-29). The big, important thing is that sex is the means by which two become one, the marriage is consummated. So in Deuteronomy 22:28:29 you read where a young man seduces a virgin and then has to pay the bride price and can’t divorce her. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 is about married girl who wasn’t a virgin and didn’t’ get a proper divorce: she is treated like an adulterer by her new husband. So, if you sleep with someone the Bible considers you married.



The reason for these laws is because this is what the other nations did which made them unclean (Lev 18:24-25)---contaminated with what causes death (physical & spiritual). It is important to note that these acts disrupt societal harmony. A society that isn’t living at peace with itself will collapse and die out. The land itself spits them out (Lev 18:28). These acts have physical consequences in the natural order of the world. Society as a whole is adverse to anything sexual being open in society. It is a bone of contention. Think about the blow-back about the Gay-mafia. Until the Gay-mafia got in everyone’s face sentiment towards the LBQT was improving, now it is turning around and it is the especially the youth that is turning against it. Same for trans issues. In the past society just turned a blind eye to sex change operations... now it is causing contention because it is being dragged out kicking and screaming into public. Transvestites were a curiosity... now that they are holding library reading hours they are becoming public enemy number 1. By and large people don’t want to be reminded about sex in an overt way. This is our biology causing trouble and trying to avoid trouble.


There is no law against masturbation: the story of Onan in Genesis 38 is about Judah and his family treated Tamar like a sex-slave (using her for sex and not compensating her as per the marital agreement: i.e. give her children) and is resolved when Judah admits this and does right by her.There is no law against BDSM, anal intercourse and other fetishes etc... but with BDSM one would be obligated to choose life and not endanger the other person. Interestingly, bondage is the only fetish mentioned in the Bible: Samson is tied up by his wife (Judges 16:11, Samson asks to be bound with ropes). So, in my opinion anything is OK in marriage so long as it excludes the first 5 prohibitions but because we are genetically sexually modest so anything so sexual triggers an emotional sentiment in our brains and the Bible gets twisted to portray it as perversion.



Porn is an excellent example of this. Again, the Bible says nothing about porn even as it was written in a time when pornography existed. We are instinctively prudish so when we see porn it must be evil because of our emotional response against sexual immodesty, not because of what the Bible actually says---which is nothing. (Of course it says a lot about porn actors and that they offer malicious testimony through presenting sex out of marriage etc.. as being all OK;  but we are only guilt for our own error (Deut 24:16).) The closest the Bible comes to porn is Numbers 15:39 "recall the commandments of YHWH and observe them, so that you do not follow your Lev (mind, often translated heart) and eyes in your lustful urge." Indisputably, watching porn is feeding your lustful urge through your eyes and stimulating ones imagination (follow your mind) but the error is forgetting the commandments. For the Bible, porn isn’t the issue, the issue is acting contrary to the commandments. So, what I see (here) is checked by what I believe is right and I direct my sexual desire at my wife and I am careful to not bring stuff into the bedroom that will disrupt our marriage. I know there is a lot of paranoia about porn depressing men’s sex drives for their wives etc... but my wife gets a lot more sexual attention after I have seen anything sexually stimulating. Its about what we direct our urges to rather than the urges.



I do feel ashamed about looking at porn etc... but this is an emotional response for the most part. And I am ashamed by letting my lustful urge get the best of me. I have realized that I am helpless to resist porn when I have my phone in my hand or my computer in front of me (Pavlovian association between computers, phones, porn and dopamine reward) but I have come to accept that the righteousness of Yeshua Messiac has been imputed to me as God’s free gift (2 Cor 5:21, Romans 6:23) to a returning prodigal son ([url=

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ztsl1JHWV6gO/
]

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ztsl1JHWV6gO/
[/url]). I couldn’t be righteous of my own doing before nor can I be afterwards. Yeshua died for me while I was still a wretch (Romans 5:8) with my deviant sexual interests etc... and God will fix that of me which needs fixing in His own time (2 Cor 5:17; Phil 1:6). Being Christian isn’t about us being perfect, it is about letting God make you perfect and accepting that our Blessed Savior has taken our penalty on Himself, allowing us to put our past aside to be reconciled with God.

Blu3: I pray your wife's love for you will grow to encompass who you fully are and will be moved to devote herself to your needs as you are for hers.

The Inspector: normal people are fucked-up self-righteous cruel bastards. I'm thankful for my "depravities" as they let me have more tenderness for those who like me are not "normal". I fear that without my kinks, without realizing I have them and they are a part of me, I would be just like those people that hurt you. We are all created in the image of God and should be entitled to dignity for that alone. One of my biggest pet peeves is that you have people who can tell you all about "created in the image of God" but not recognize it another person. I pray you will discover why God saved you and will find peace in yourself and have long life.

God bless!

[Like Ra]

Again, the Bible says nothing about porn even as it was written in a time when pornography existed.

.. no Internet, no mobile phones, no nylon, no lycra, no shiny pantyhose, no transparent latex, no likera.com .... Pfff .... wrong time, not for me ....

[SLL]

On of the best things about this forum is the thank you button.

[Like Ra]

This sums it up and this thread might be the most suitable one to post it in:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQrhl7KJ0m4