General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread

[Like Ra]

I merged two closely related threads together.

A couple of years ago we were discussing the same subject, and it's quite interesting how my perception was/is  changing over time.

[Like Ra]

Speaking of the perception change.

You can't explain something to a person who does not have a particular sense. E.g. you can't explain a blind the difference between orange and pink. At the end of last year, thanks to this thread (https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=2113) I experienced how it feels to be a woman in a man's body (https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...3#pid28373). I would call it "another life changing experience", that happened to me last time.

[Like Ra]

http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsex...in_gd.html


Kinsey's sexual orientation scale

• 0 Exclusively heterosexual with no homosexual experience
  
• 1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidently homosexual
  
• 2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
  
• 3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual
  
• 4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
  
• 5 Predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual
  
• 6 Exclusively homosexual, with no heterosexual experience
  

Dr. Harry Benjamin's Gender Disorientation Scale:

Type One: Transvestite (Pseudo)
Gender Feeling: Masculine
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Lives as a man. Could get occasional kick out of dressing. Normal male life.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Hetero, bi, or homosexual. Dressing and -- more --exchange may occur in masturbation fantasies mainly. May enjoy TV literature only.
Kinsey Scale: 0-6
Conversion Operation: Not considered in reality.
Estrogen Medication: Not interested or indicated.
Psychotherapy: Not wanted and unnecessary.
Remarks: Interests in dressing is only sporadic.

Type Two: Transvestism (Fetishistic)
Gender Feeling: Masculine
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Lives as a man. Dressing periodically or part of the time. Dresses underneath male clothes.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Heterosexual. Rarely bisexual. Masturbation with fetish. Guilt feelings. Purges and relapses.
Kinsey Scale: 0-2
Conversion Operation: Rejected
Estrogen Medication: Rarely interested. Occasionally useful to reduce libido.
Psychotherapy: May be successful (in a favorable environment.)
Remarks: May imitate double (masculine and feminine) personality with male and female names.

Type Three: Transvestism (True)
Gender Feeling: Masculine (but with less conviction.)
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Dresses constantly or as often as possible. May live and be accepted as woman. May dress underneath male clothes, if no other chance.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Heterosexual, except when dressed. Dressing gives sexual satisfaction with relief of gender discomfort. May purge and relapse.
Kinsey Scale: 0-2
Conversion Operation: Actually rejected, but idea can be attractive.
Estrogen Medication: Attractive as an experiment. Can be helpful emotionally
Psychotherapy: If attempted is usually not successful as to cure.
Remarks: May assume double personality. Trend toward transsexualism.

Type Four: Transsexual (Nonsurgical)
Gender Feeling: Undecided. Wavering between TV and TS.
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Dresses as often as possible with insufficient relief of his gender discomfort. May live as a man or woman; sometimes alternating.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Libido often low. Asexual or auto-erotic. Could be bisexual. Could also be married and have children.
Kinsey Scale: 1-4
Conversion Operation: Attractive but not requested or attraction not admitted.
Estrogen Medication: Needed for comfort and emotional balance.
Psychotherapy: Only as guidance; otherwise refused or unsuccessful.
Remarks: Social life dependent upon circumstances.

Type Five: True Transsexual (moderate intensity)
Gender Feeling: Feminine (trapped in male body)
Dressing Habits and Social Life: Lives and works as woman if possible. Insufficient relief from dressing.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Libido low. Asexual auto-erotic, or passive homosexual activity. May have been married and have children.
Kinsey Scale: 4-6
Conversion Operation: Requested and usually indicated.
Estrogen Medication: Needed as substitute for or preliminary to operation.
Psychotherapy: Rejected. Useless as to cure. Permissive psychological guidance.
Remarks: Operation hoped for and worked for. Often attained.

Type Six: True Transsexual (high intensity)
Gender Feeling: Feminine. Total psycho-sexual inversion.
Dressing Habits and Social Life: May live and work as a woman. Dressing gives insufficient relief. Gender discomfort intense.
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Intensely desires relations with normal male as female if young. May have been married and have children, by using fantasies in intercourse.
Kinsey Scale: 6
Conversion Operation: Urgently requested and usually attained. Indicated.
Estrogen Medication: Required for partial relief.
Psychotherapy: Psychological guidance or psychotherapy for symptomatic relief only.
Remarks: Despises his male sex organs. Danger of suicide or self-mutilation, if too long frustrated.

[Like Ra]

I think I'm around Benjamin's Gender Disorientation Type 3, so, nothing to worry about 😁

[cbshackle]

I think I'm around Benjamin's Gender Disorientation Type 3, so, nothing to worry about 😁

Everything now is based on the WPATH standards of care which is based on the now outdated Harry Benjamin standards.

I wanted to transition in the 90's but I exclusively attracted to women. Transitioning to be a lesbian just wasn't accepted back then. We know now that gender identity is totally separate from sexual orientation. So now I'm a happy post-op transgender lesbian woman  😊

[Like Ra]

Yeah, "Sex Object Choice and Sex Life" gradation looks out of this world, indeed.

[Like Ra]

Interesting quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit

Third and fourth gender roles traditionally embodied by two-spirit people include performing work and wearing clothing associated with both men and women. Not all tribes/nations have rigid gender roles, but, among those that do, the most usual spectrum that has been documented is that of four genders: feminine woman, masculine woman, feminine man, masculine man.

According to German anthropologist Sabine Lang, cross dressing of two spirit people was not always an indicator of gender identity: "the mere fact that a male wears women's clothing does not say something about his role behavior, his gender status, or even his choice of partner..."

[Like Ra]

This beauty is actually a tgirl...Leticia "Letty" Crawford.  Unbelievable...

   

[Like Ra]

Consensus is that it's a tgirl Caro Sofi:

   

[Poorwhitetrash]

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Oohhhh brilliant! Moar!!! 😋

The first image is very suitable for the hypnosis thread 😉

Have you seen this just a boy that dresses like a girl.. https://smithbkelly.blogspot.com/2017/

I LOVE THOSE PANTYHOSE! I LOVE THE ENTIRE ENSEMBLE, THAT WAS MY THING...in 1970,s.


http://www.youtube.com/c/girlybritneysmith

Thursday, January 25, 2018

I Forgot where the THREAD is, Ra you were discussing some of the Youtube Stars are for theatrical purposes

Even if there is some nefarious scheme to create great web pages and videos for Transvestites...OMG I WISH THERE WAS IN 1984 When I Started indulging in Open Cross Dressing, I HAD LEFT ARKANSAS....TO SAN FRANCISCO!  Fun Fun Fun...but No Literature!