General hypnosis and NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) discussion

[yihope]

some entities could drain energy (see inorganic beings of Castaneda)

This is one of my theory why some hypnosis stuff works.

The sense of “I” consume a lot of energy. Egregores can help us, but they are only interested at their survivor. I saw similar concepts in Transurfing by Vadim Zeland, where you can clearly see also the Castaneda’s fingerprint.

[Like Ra]

Egregores can help us but they are only interested at their survivor.

True, hence they are looking for new energy sources. And to get energy, they might provide some fun. I have no idea how to distinguish between egregores and other inorganic creatures (e.g. "Castaneda's allies", "larvae", etc.) as they can behave in similar ways.

I saw similar concepts in Transurfing by Vadim Zeland, where you can clearly see also the Castaneda’s fingerprint.

Yep. BTW, have you read the latest "Itfat/Tafti" books?

[yihope]

Egregores can help us but they are only interested at their survivor.

True, hence they are looking for new energy sources. And to get energy, they might provide some fun. I have no idea how to distinguish between egregores and other inorganic creatures (e.g. "Castaneda's allies", "larvae", etc.) as they can behave in similar ways.

I saw similar concepts in Transurfing by Vadim Zeland, where you can clearly see also the Castaneda’s fingerprint.

Yep. BTW, have you read the latest "Itfat/Tafti" books?

I think that the concept of egregor is very important, but I don't have clear ideas yet. Who or what does mediate between the Oneness and the multiplicity? Archetypes? Do egregors embody archetypes?

IMHO this brief text is fundamental: http://www.imagomundi.com.br/espirituali...inalis.pdf

I haven't read Itfat/Tafti yet, but I'm going to buy the books.

[yihope]

In fact, I have some questions I'd really like to ask people.
1. how do you know if you have generated tulpa? my native language is not English. I have been able to understand about ninety percent of the content so far, except for the takeover series.

I can make some considerations as intermediate English and from my knowledge:

-unconscious know the foreign language much better than the conscious

-who speak in your native language speak to your heart,
 but I read a comment on YouTube that claims subliminals in english are more effective than in their mother language

-if someone speaks in english, if I don't want to listen to him, his words are only noise, if he speaks in italian I can't ignore him

-a human voice is much more effective than an artificial voice

-sound is the key of the egregor. Who knows the correct pronunciation of Javh3? How are polluted and stolen the egregors?

[Like Ra]

if someone speaks in english, if I don't want to listen to him, his words are only noise, if he speaks in italian I can't ignore him

Mmmm... Why? I don't speak Italian consciously, so consciously I can ignore it. I speak English, so, even if I ignore it consciously, it will still be "recorded" and "understood" by subconscious. No?

How are polluted and stolen the egregors?

Oh yes... Have you heard the story about destroying the stolen Castaneda's egregore?

I will move the general posts to the general thread.

[yihope]

if someone speaks in english, if I don't want to listen to him, his words are only noise, if he speaks in italian I can't ignore him

Mmmm... Why? I don't speak Italian consciously, so consciously I can ignore it. I speak English, so, even if I ignore it consciously, it will still be "recorded" and "understood" by subconscious. No?

How are polluted and stolen the egregors?

Oh yes... Have you heard the story about destroying the stolen Castaneda's egregore?

I will move the general posts to the general thread.

I mean, the mother language is part of us, like the blood

About Castaneda,  I loved his books, I also bought the 3 VHS of Tensegrity, but in the first years of the new century I threw them away.
I think that when he had a magic circle between him and his adepts, he became prisoner.

I read an interesting article in http://www.sustainedaction.org/

[Lycalopex]

What are your takes on hypnotic "triggers"?

I recently encountered a hypnotist who sounded remarkably like a friend of mine, even though I know it wasn't actually him. That tist has a common "closed trigger" in his files, or a phrase that should only activate when that specific person says it. (As opposed to an "open trigger", which has an effect no matter who says it)

I can't help but wonder if, should I get said trigger established and it actually works, my friend accidentally using the phrase would do anything.

[Munkiman]

What are your takes on hypnotic "triggers"?

I recently encountered a hypnotist who sounded remarkably like a friend of mine, even though I know it wasn't actually him. That tist has a common "closed trigger" in his files, or a phrase that should only activate when that specific person says it. (As opposed to an "open trigger", which has an effect no matter who says it)

I can't help but wonder if, should I get said trigger established and it actually works, my friend accidentally using the phrase would do anything.

I'm not speaking as someone with schooling in hypnosis, but as someone who's been involved with this community etc. for some fifteen years now, I would say that triggers are generally based on your own interpretations of the situation. So it's unlikely to have a strong effect from your friend unless you expect it to.

You may be reminded of the hypnosis and recognize it as a trigger, but you're unlikely to, I dunno, get down on your knees and act like a dog unless A) you expect to and B) you don't have an aversion to NOT doing it

[Biblup]

Hello all, hope you are doing well.

I have become rather bored with the content of hypnosis I come across. Anytime it sparks my interests its too little and too late. Been this way for years and becoming bored of listening to the same files.. So I am interested in making my own files. Curious if there are posts/discussions here for that - programs used, tts, best books on practising hypnosis etc.

[Like Ra]

Welcome @Biblup!

I am interested in making my own files.

Good decision!

Curious if there are posts/discussions here for that

It's mostly this thread, and:

Software, tips and tricks for creating and playing up hypno-files https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=2109
Layered(?), NLP like files, what is how perceived? https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=2691
Background hypnotic sounds https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=2110
Hypnosis Scripts https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=3035
Audio editing software, DAWs https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=3530
Video editing software https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=2038
Text to speech programs (TTS) https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=2111
(I will add this to the first post)

Are you going to use your own voice or TTS?