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From 'normal' to 'kinky' – a personal review of my fetish development
#11
Ah-ha!Idea I think I've spotted a common trend here, relating to the desire for something unplanned or we have have no control over to happen during a session.

Tinker D wishes for a random fuck from a robot (interesting!), whilst LustrousLaminaLover writes eloquently about the need for 'spontaneity'.

I understand both these desires but also find them the hardest elements to bring into a successful self-bondage session.

Of course I can programme a timer to switch a torment/tease on and off - but the very act of programming and setting the device up takes away any real element of spontaneity (selecting a ‘random’ setting is, in my opinion, never going to work in real-life. True ‘random’ could mean anything from ‘always on’ to ‘never on’… no thanks!) and similarly even if you could configure a device to ‘randomly’ (within some pre-programmed parameters) do something (fuck your ass, vibrate your cock, spurt fake cum in your mouth… all fun things) you still have to connect the pipes/massagers/dildos/whatever and then, once again, the spontaneity is lost.

Losing control or, more accurately, giving up control, is to me subtly different. Using an ice-cube timer to prohibit your freedom means you have given up control over your predicament (at least for a period of time). Similarly when I use a digital timer and massager to tease my cock whilst I am helpless to prevent it brings a thrill of being unable to stop something (nice) happening to me. 😁

It isn’t spontaneous or really random, but it is unstoppable and (just like riding a roller-coaster and reaching the first summit) you know it WILL happen (unless you’ve screwed up the timer or power supply!).
For me and, I think, others the real fantasy will always be the unexpected event that ‘forces’ you to endure something you secretly desire (I don’t believe anyone has ‘fantasies about things they don’t want – those would be nightmares, wouldn’t they 🤔 ).

Outside of science fiction (Tinker D’s robot) I don’t see how these could be practically delivered – Yes, you could spend years and huge sums of money devising machines and devices to deliver something (or not of course - spontaneity and chance run both ways), but for the vast majority this simply isn’t a viable option.

Personally I’ll keep my fantasy as just that, a fantasy, and maybe spiral further downwards (my little joke, not how I really feel about it) by finding new ways to ‘lose control’ – the timed enema release is a ‘must do’ given the opportunity and reliable kit (true random at the moment – sometimes it works and sometimes not! I prefer it to work 😁 ).

Happy in my kinkiness

MJ
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#12
Gee, I am happy that you like my robot :b

As for the unknown, I like ice timers, clock timers and all that. But I do like to have a way to have a device to torment me when I am bound. Something to make my cock quiver to the point of cumming and something in my ass rummaging around while I am bound.

As for the robot, I am not going to build something that waves it's arms around yelling " Danger...Danger Will Robenson". That's silly.

But that idea of a fucking machine that grabs you and fucks you till it's desides to cumm into you is do-able. I remember a movie called Demon Seed. I think that was the one with a robot in it. Not sure.

A computer? no, not a computer. Maybe a washing machine controler on a setting to work you over. Now I wonder about the spin cycle? The wash cycle is easy. Enema. Spin cycle could be a blow-job.

I need to find work. This down time is driving me nuts.
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#13
Demon seed was indeed the film about the robot/computer that was fascinated with the creator's wife. Coincidentally, I read the synopsis for it just yesterday...

By the way, if you manage to make one of those robots you're on about, Tinker D, I'll commission you to make another, I wouldn't mind one of those myself!
There's a scene in beetlejuice (I think), in which a woman's scultpure comes to life and 'captures' her with it's centipede like legs, which I remember I always found arousing.
Even when I was younger, and had no idea of bondage, it still managed to stir a physical response.
Nowadays, if I think of that scenario, I can realise the dangers of being in that woman's position, but I can't help but wish to put myself in her place, hoping that the sculpture was able to do 'other' things too... much like your robot would 😉

Of building an artificially intelligent robot/machine, the hardest part will always be the programming. Without a shadow of a doubt.
AI has come a long way, but I think it's still got a long way to go before it's able to replace humans, even in regards to mere spontaneity. It's just such an involved aspect of intelligence.
And now that I think on it, I don't actually think it'll ever reach any sort of limit; I just can't imagine us building 'unpredictable' robots somehow...

Human-to-human contact is the only real way to achieve the desired results, but that in it's self is a can of worms. There are all sorts of issues that this route brings up, preventing us from proceeding: possibility, ability, morality, sexuality, legality,... the list goes on!
Sure, you'll have a similar list for having sex with a robot, but there's only one person involved. So as long as you can accept it yourself, then things are going to move forward. Robots don't object, and that's why we love 'em.

The next best thing, ...the next nearest possibility, would be a hybrid robot/human. Now, I'm not talking cyborgs here, but merely a robot controlled by a human.
Teledildonics is (loosely) the work of combining robotics with sexual gratification, and I think most projects in the field have a human behind the controls.
Now, while it would be acceptable to have someone stand in the room with you and control the robot that's got you in it's grasp, how much better would it be if it was being controlled via computer/internet (by a complete stranger if you wish!), with no-one but you and the robot in the room?
A robot which is 'alive', but ultimately having it's choices made by a human, who you have no contact with? Sounds pretty good to me, and I would say that that was achievable right now.
Take AI out of the equation, and the building of it suddenly becomes the hardest part.
Even still, and I'm paraphrasing madjack here: it's not viable for most. But, given time, it certainly will be.

Moving away from the robot topic... (and the hijacking feeling...)

madjack Wrote:I don’t believe anyone has ‘fantasies about things they don’t want – those would be nightmares, wouldn’t they 🤔
I would agree, but 'Top 10 Fantasies' articles commonly post that a woman's top fantasy is being raped, and I don't think any of them really want that... The mind boggles.
I can't really say much on the subject; my 'woman' has no fantasies. None whatsoever, apparently Dodgy.

I'm loving the roller-coaster analogy, madjack!
I'm actually going to start a new thread with a little poll that revolves around it (I hope you don't mind). I'm just really interested to see how similarly we all think.

I also agree with you completely; being subjected to randomness is not the same as relinquishing control, no matter how much control we forfeit to the randomness.
During a session, we set things up that we expect to happen, albeit in some delayed fashion, in some circumstances, but if those things don't happen, then something has gone wrong.
Now, under the same circumstances, if we were to hit the proverbial 'random' button, then who's to say what we would be subjected to? It could be anything from a plane falling on your head, to a tree being seeded in your navel. It would be completely random.
I suppose we could set some parameters for the randomness to fall within, so that we get some random things that we do want, but then is that really randomness, or is it merely a controlled choice that is outwith our control?
Tomato, tomato, I think. But I can guess that that's what we all mean when we say 'random'.
The choice of toy to be inserted, the choice of clothing to be worn, the choice of place to be suspended, the choice of time, the choice of location, the choice of privacy: all examples of controlled choices which would benefit from the 'random' button. There's lots more too. The list is nigh endless!

It would be nice if we could integrate this randomness into our sessions, but, to a degree, we all have expectations when we set things in motion. You know how long the ice will take to melt, you know how long you set the timer for, you know how much water you put in the bag, etc, etc. If these things change, it's not usually desirable, but given the right circumstances, and parameters, it could take our sessions to a whole new level. It's just a shame that it requires so much luck/effort/wealth/knowledge/(add many other barriers here) to achieve such a desirable variable.

My hopes rest in robots/machines.
I have a GF, and I don't think she would be too happy with me if I tried to explain that the human on human contact with that other person was just to add a little randomness to my private sessions.
She might not like the robots/machines either, but it's not strictly cheating... 😋

As always, sorry for the wall of text.
/LLL
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#14
(28 Nov 2012, 00:25 )LustrousLaminaLover Wrote: Teledildonics
Love this term! 😁

Nicely put. Two almost simultaneous posts 😉 See Nana to Kaoru. Chapter 21. What real bondage and self-bondage are
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#15
YEA !!! Someone likes my robot. Randomness. Now, that might be a good or bad thing. Now, as for random operations in bondage or self bondage, there are not many choices. Example... wrists tied or not tied. A logic 1 would be tied and a logic 0 would be un-tied. How random is that?
NO, I am thinking about something like a set of dice, put them in a cup, shake them and let them fly. Whatever lands, then that will be your sesson. Now, how to make that work in a robot or self bondage, I don't know yet. As for my robot, I do have drawings. I may start to build one next year, But I have a Jeep coming in a few weeks and I want that more than a robot.
Back to the robot..... I wonder how to start the robot? Do I back myself to the tip of a dildo? Will the robot detect that you are there? What happens if the dildo misses its mark? will the robot stop and let you go?

Like a Venis fly trap that misses the fly. If there is nothing there to eat, or in this case fuck, then why waist the effort.

It's 5:30 AM here.... time for a pot of coffie and work.

Maybe we need a posting on robot and bondage design.
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#16
(28 Nov 2012, 14:32 )Tinker D Wrote: I am thinking about something like a set of dice, put them in a cup, shake them and let them fly. Whatever lands, then that will be your sesson.
I did that when I was a kid 😉 I draw a couple of tables with clothing, insertables, etc and just rolled a couple of dices. Yes, I knew that two dices have a median, so some sessions should occur more often, but still it was fun.

Later I wrote a simple script which randomly shows a bondage picture out my huge collection. Not very useful but very stimulating method 😉

Also, I'm still thinking about creating a random session generator here. You can choose what you have (tools, clothing), preferences, then press "Calc" and here we go - a ready-to-enjoy selfbondage session. Probably even with pictures or photos. There must be internal logic, not just pure random generator. For example, sessions with enema do not mix with tape self-mummification.

That project should also enhance my CSS/JS/PHP/HTML/MySQL(?) knowledge, so it's a win-win situation. One problem, though - time.
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#17
Time; the bane of existence.

I've worked along similar lines in C++. It was a task that I thought would be fairly straight forward, but I soon learned that I had completely underestimated it.
Making a list of clothing/toys/etc was not a problem.
Having the program pick an item from both lists was not a problem.
Having the program restrict it's choices, based on the first item it picked, was where I got bogged down.

I could have easily went through the lists and manually restricted certain items that wouldn't have worked with a specific first choice, but it would've been a chore.
My next thought was to categorise things, as this would mean I could restrict by groups of items at a time. For example: you wouldn't be able to wear a pair of latex briefs with an internal dildo, if you had a buttplug chosen. (Technically you could, but I'm struggling for a better example just now).
Respectively, those latex briefs would be in the 'underwear', 'latex', and 'toy' categories, and the buttplug would be in the 'toy', and 'buttplug' categories.
The program would see that one of the categories from both lists matched, and would check on it's own permissions list to see if toy/toy was allowed. In this case, it wouldn't be, so it would flag up a diagnostic error, and then re-choose it's items.
(This is a somewhat simplified example; the categories/lists idea is a little more detailed than this, but you get the idea).

As so often happens, I got distracted while working on this and the project got shelved.
I'm sure this method is far from ideal, but I would still like to refine it and get a generator working as I think it would definitely be a benefit to a lot of people. Just the other day, I saw someone post in the chat, asking what they could do for their session, which I have done before too.
But if we had a generator, then it could be an alternative, if there was no-one there to answer.

I'm sure there would be a lot of bugs/wildcard exceptions/etc. but it's still a fun project. So if you ever decide to work on it again Like Ra, I'd be more than happy to offer my assistance. I don't know a huge amount of PHP/HTML, but I dabbled with it a while back.

Tinker D - If your robot could miss it's mark, then that would just add to the randomness of it. Sure, it might not be a desirable outcome, but if you tether the options too much, it stops being random. Besides, I think it would be kinda nice, feeling the robot's dick slithering all about my crotch, trying desperately (but failing) to get inside me, before it shot it's load.
If it misses completely (with it's arms), on the other hand, then there would be nothing touching the tip of the dildo and so would not start that part of the cycle 😉

Also, I'd be interested to see the drawings if your willing to share? You can never have enough robot porn... 😁

Oh, and a separate thread for robot talk might be a good idea, we seem to be hijacking a bit. (Sorry madjack ☺ )

/LLL
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#18
Yes, we are somewhat distracted, but the results are the same.
As for your computer program problem, you can add a counter to each item and if the count gets too large, like a pinball giving too many credits will adjust itself and make it harder to win.
So each item will have its own counter. Add 1 to the counter if the item is chosen and subtrack 1 if the item is not chosen. Then adjust the program to equal out the results.

My designs? Hmmm... Maybe I should.
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#19
A blog post on randomness: Nana to Kaoru. Chapter 28. Expecting unexpected and randomness in selfbondage and bondage sessions
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#20
Just a quickie:
I was window-shopping when, upon reading a description for a sex toy, came across this:
Quote:Now you get to experience the new SenseMotion control. It's pretty awesome - in the first mode the more you tilt the remote the faster the vibrations. In the second you rotate or shake the remote and the vibrations match your movements.

My imediate reaction was: What would happen if you threw it in the washing machine? Would that produce random vibrations?
I've no idea, but I do have to say that I like where the industry is going. I'm all for these more elegant and expensive toys that do more; The seedy perception of the sex industry has tarnished if for long enough.
Ultimately, I think it will be the companies that make these elegant(ly) expensive toys that will help redefine the entire idustry, and it's gonna be awesome. I just hope I'm still alive to see it.
I do hope it doesn't pull fetishes with it though. Fetishes need an element of seedy-ness to them, else they wouldn't be fetishes (to me, at least).

/LLL
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