Phytoestrogens and magic herbs

[Like Ra]

Nowadays, I'm experimenting with lots of herbs and mushrooms: Pueraria mirifica, Hops, Shatavari, Fenugreek, Green tea, Maca (white, red, black), Reishi, Black cohosh, Wild yams.

I can not find White peony. Poria cocos works similarly and is available in NL, so, going to try this one as well 😅

As I said, I'm not interested in breasts enlargement (though, they are quite noticeable and sensitive), I'm after skin enhancements and fat redistribution.

As for the hair, I'm going to add Gynostemma pentaphyllum and Polygonum Multiflorum (this is a tricky one, it must be already properly prepared and extracted).

[Like Ra]

Apparently, to increase own estradiol production, the following should be done:
- stimulate aromatase to convert T to E2 (White Peony, Poria cocos)
- inhibit 5a-reductase to prevent T to DHT conversion (Green tea, Reishi, fenugreek, dutasteride)
- possibly decrease free T (spearmint)?
- increase T production (shilajit)

However, endogenous E2 will compete with phytoestrogens (e.g. from Pueraria mirifica, Shatavari, Hops, Wild yam, Black cohosh). So, the question is, if we go the "own E2" path, do we need to add phytoestrogens?

[Like Ra]

Fenugreek increases free testosterone by inhibiting both aromatase (which converts T to E2) and 5a-reductase (which converts T to DHT).
At the same time fenugreek contains phytoestrogens.

[Like Ra]

This stuff:

https://kruidenalternatief.nl/product-ca...-mirifica/

is strong ... Two weeks ago I had to stop taking it, because the breasts swelling and pain became ... a bit ... too much ... Two weeks later the pain begins to subside, and the erections are back. I wonder if it's just Pueraria and Hops in those 500mg capsules, and not something like ... 17β-estradiol ... 😅

[Like Ra]

Meanwhile, I found Paeonia lactiflora here: https://liki24.nl/en/p/pioenroos-600mg-6...ica-herbs/
Ordered, waiting.

[Like Ra]

Are there any natural SERMs which inhibit breast E-receptors? It does no look like Black Cohosh works.

[Like Ra]

Two weeks later the pain begins to subside, and the erections are back.

... and the smell is back ...