Kei's MindWarp

@progaamoto

"AI" voices. I have not been generally won over by them yet either, but I'm a bit of an odd one out.... I often (not always) prefer TTS to real human voices, find TTS easier to trance to. Based on earlier posts, I do suspect Kei puts in a lot of time & effort on her AI creations. Some of the new AI (and TTS) samples I heard from MsJ sounded very promising, you might want to check out their patreon (read the file descriptions first! https://www.patreon.com/msj_productions, not all will be a match). The fetishes listed in your profile will probably be a closer match for MsJ. Kei does indirectly have "prostate play" ... though that is more of an inevitability due to the limited insertion choices physically available than explicitly aiming for it 😁 . The others you list are not usually on the menu.

"Feminization was not exactly my kink in the first place". That's fine and I suspect many are drawn to the sexual part of Kei's files, it is one of the parts I also like, (keep in mind for many of us, the female being/nature is not a fetish, just something Kei can do a very good job of at affirming).

If you want to trance, a big part of that is accepting what you are being told and something you desire & trusting the source of that info (I'm talking about erotic hypnosis files, not methods used in POW camps). A little bit of fear or humiliation to prod you can be a tool, but if you reject the message or the messenger, your chances of trancing will be very low. 

I have been reading up a bit on Samantha Bandler (with whom I've always had trust issues, and do not trance well to) and found this old (2009) post on WMM, which I agree with (I'm not sure if Samantha still does 😉 ):

Trust is a big part of successful trance. If you don't trust the hypnotist, or the file, to do what you expect, you won't let it do anything. You also have to be honest with yourself. If you don't really want to be fucked by a diaper dog, you won't relax and let it happen. As someone said earlier, the match of listener's desire with hypnotists intention makes a big difference.

You might have better luck with trancing, by choosing a Tist who focuses specifically on your kinks & inner desires and in a way which coaxes and fosters them. 

"Psychedelics" TBH, although I find Kei's DG/SG files non threatening & not scary (for me the spirit/demon is simply my own inner desires, not someone or something external), I don't think I would want to trance to the DG/SG files on them, especially not the ones with guest appearances from a moonlighting Jurassic Park Pteranodon or that deep voice at 1/3 speed. You can have a bad trip on LSD, especially bad/unsafe if alone & it is often cut with all sorts of really nasty things these days. Castaneda's Peyote, only if you have absolutely no taste buds and a digestive system made of stainless steel (also not a likely find, not native to the Accona). Which leaves mushrooms, which in moderation can be benevolent if from a trusted & safe source. I still would not recommend it. Weed would be my hard limit.... and if you find a Tist with the right material & methods for you, none of it should be necessary, your own desires & dopamine should take care of that.

I think you are talking about the rigid "assemblage point" in Castaneda's terms.

Oh, it's been more than 10 years since I've read several of his books. Really loved them back then, they made me more observant. Or, how people put it nowadays, "mindful". But without peyote at hand the experience is not exactly complete,  hahaha.

I'm a bit of an odd one out.... I often (not always) prefer TTS to real human voices, find TTS easier to trance to

nonono, that's not odd at all. I am not against TTS in general. But the songs sound particularly silly.  If you turn even the strongest bambi sleep text into a silly song, it's gonna lose all of its power, IMO.

I do suspect Kei puts in a lot of time & effort on her AI creations.

And most likely this is true. However, there is still a huge problem with the "last mile" of generative AI models. You know, regardless how you tell AI to not put a pink elephant in the picture, it's still gonna put it there for whatever reason. And this is exactly where the vast majority of efforts ends up. In tuning AI quirks. But when it comes to using AI I'm much more OK with generated images than with silly-sounding songs.

I have been reading up a bit on Samantha Bandler

I have not mentioned them yet, but I've been listening to their works quite a lot some time ago. For me (so take this as a personal anecdote), effects of SB files were absolutely contained within a session. Like, their work don't shift the overtone window like BS does. The hypnotic effect is also a bit questionable. My fav files were Girl tag team and Compliance 505. The latter was very close to delivering me a HFO. Surprisingly close, actually!  But again, this file suggests being limp which did not work at all even when I'd used a cage, lol. That's why I put SB works into a category of roleplay and/or fap material rather than a solid hypno. SB's files are very pleasant to listen to though, that's for sure.

MSJ have not tried yet. Well, I certainly downloaded and tried to listen a couple of times, but they sounded rather ...oldschool, let's put it this way. But since you're suggesting them as a personal recommendation, I'll give it a shot, thanks!

Hey! Thanks for sharing your experiences. I've also seen lots of criticism of Kei's demon girl series on this forum and others, mostly due to weird sound effects and distorted voices. But my take is: making me feel scared is a fair game. And here is why. I'm not one who can easily be put deep into trance. So bambi files for me sound like an endless roleplaying that shifts the Overton window to sucking cocks, at least mentally. From Pig Girl files I don't trance at all, it's just like listening or watching porn, I did not notice any hypnotic effects whatsoever. But some of KEI's demon girl files at least managed to deliver a small rare feeling which went beyond roleplaying. I was lying on the bed and I could feel something approaching, someone near me. I was crazy scared for a moment. And in its own way I had lots of fun, some people can enjoy horror movies, right? And in this case I think my intense emotions of being scared have melted my barriers that stopped me from trancing. That was quite an interesting experience.

What I don't exactly like about DG series, is that the listening order is still unclear. And at the same time I'm not even sure if the order matters, because I have not really noticed any "plot development". Bambi files are certainly better in this department. And the erotic aspect of KEI files is not particularly high either, I doubt that they can bring me close to culmination and HFO.
(If Kei reads this comment, please don't take too seriously what I'm about to say, because I do respect your choice to drop this.) I think how the series has ended is a pity and DG deserves a complete rework/overhaul, applying everything KEI has learned so far and adding a more structured approach to how the series develops. The series was simultaneously both ahead of its time and a bit too raw. I suspect this is a reason why we don't see many reports of long-term use of DG files -- because very few people stick to them long-term, eh?

No worries.
Yeah a bit of a similar experience. I tried Bambi sleep a few times, over the years but it never really had any effect of me. I never really tranced or had a takeover.

With Kei, it was completely unexpected and when I did listen to it, a lot of the time I blacked out by the end. I was using alcohol and poppers but there were a few times I woke up in the morning after listening the previous night and my headphones were neatly placed away. So when that takeover happened unprompted without even listening it was pretty strong evidence that Kei’s stuff was working and stuff had been planted deep subliminally.

But I don’t know I’m not really accepting scared of Demon Girl. Every time I’ve listened to it, it’s been more humbling and like I’ve submitted to a Domme out of genuine servitude rather than Fear.

I do agree though there are things about it that make it very effective, but I do agree is kind of inconsistent in terms of quality and there isn’t a coherent order or storyline so the randomness does stop it from being as effective as it could be. I think one really strong thing Kei does that works for me is how much it is. Like the audio is so overwhelming it’s like it breaks down your brains defences. Like you have the dominant audio you can here and so much stuff in the background that your brain can’t focus on anything else bar the dominant audio because the background is stopping you from thinking of anything else. For me that was a hurdle with Bambisleep and some other hypnos my mind always kept wandering. Even if i tranced for some stuff it couldn’t fully focus.

But yeah i agree DG needs a workover. I dont even think you need to start from scratch but if someone was dedicated they could just recut all of them, cut the filler and make a more coherent narrative. A bit similar to how some people did with Bambisleep but with Bambi there is a way way bigger community, the files aren’t hidden and it’s quite popular. Through my research yeah there doesn’t seem to be many long term users of the files, just like rumours and theories. I suspect a lot if anything has been lost to the internet but at the same time if anything was truly successful I wonder if anyone would’ve posted updates.

Since the takeover i’ve used Kei a few times but because it is a bit time consuming I’ve also been using CFT by EMG and I think it is having an effect as I can trance somewhat to that.

@Iniga Yeah there isn’t a structure or order. I suppose what someone could do is just use the archive of her site and see the upload dates, maybe there’s some sort of order there. Alternatively maybe with the advent of AI, you could feed all the audio and see if you can accurately convert it to text and ask AI to give you a coherent logical order of do it yourself.

Anyway now I’m just trying to think where is there to go with this stuff now, do i have an end goal in sight? Right now I’m just going with vibes and feelings but I do see this Hypno having an effect on me, I’m curious to how far i can go. Maybe my SCM has been warped by all this Hypno I’ve been putting myself through and there’s a goal that has been made apparent to me yet. I’ve just been having all these strong desires that weren’t really there before like trying out HRT, during Hypnos with psychedelics and pushing my sexual boundaries. Like even the fact that I want to go deeper says a lot I guess.

I've also seen lots of criticism of Kei's demon girl series on this forum and others, mostly due to weird sound effects and distorted voices. But my take is: making me feel scared is a fair game.  And here is why. I'm not one who can easily be put deep into trance. So bambi files for me sound like an endless roleplaying that shifts the Overton window to sucking cocks, at least mentally. From Pig Girl files I don't trance at all, it's just like listening or watching porn, I did not notice any hypnotic effects whatsoever. But some of KEI's demon girl files at least managed to deliver a small rare feeling which went beyond roleplaying. I was lying on the bed and I could feel something approaching, someone near me. I was crazy scared for a moment. And in its own way I had lots of fun, some people can enjoy horror movies, right? And in this case I think my intense emotions of being scared have melted my barriers that stopped me from trancing. That was quite an interesting experience.

And the erotic aspect of KEI files is not particularly high either, I doubt that they can bring me close to culmination and HFO.

YES! I can criticize some details, but this style resonated deep within me. The way the words, voices, and audio effects are chosen give me a feeling of unnatural kinship with the author (or authors). I have not felt this way before, listening to other hypno.

As for the culmination, I can agree, but for me personally there is another layer. These audio files do not try to push towards a climax and probably do not have such a purpose in the first place. And yet it were KEI's audio files that helped me experience HFO for the first time. It didn't feel like a strong and vivid stimulation through imagination. More like subtle, warm waves that enveloped and filled me with ideas and phantom sensations over and over again during a very long time (like 4 hours) until at some unexpected moment it became something inevitable and happened on its own. I don't know what exactly caused this and I haven't been able to repeat it, but it never works when I'm intentionally seeking for a peak and trying to push myself toward it.

During the other night I also experienced short sleep paralysis for the first time in my life, when I fell asleep with DG playing in the background. I had a creepy dream that had nothing to do with DG (at least I think so). I woke up scared and was sure that I was being chased by some creature, but I couldn't move. It was quite curious and vivid experience, I must say.
I think it was because of the creepy ambient I heard in the background of DG hypno file at that moment, when I came to my senses.

it's funny to admit, but KEI took two of my virginities, huh. The first was one of the most pleasant. The second was one of the creepiest.

Demon Girl’s Return

Demon Girl’s Return

Great to see, just a shame it’s only 10 minutes

[Like Ra]

Great to see, just a shame it’s only 10 minutes

I would say it's huge progress from Kei's "usual" 2 hours 😉

[Like Ra]

My SCM decided to make me listen to Kei all night long. Actually, it turned out to be quite comfortable, provided it's not loud. Before I fell asleep I got a vision of a big beautiful female eye (then eyes) looking at me, then a strange slowly spinning multifaceted glassy construction. No other effects, besides arousal 😋

OTOH:

As for the eyes - it's not related to Kei. Think of them as of just a night-dream 😉 Your arousal is also not related to Kei. There was one effect - you fell asleep faster 😁

Before I fell asleep I got a vision of a big beautiful female eye (then eyes) looking at me

What color were the eyes? [They are the windows to the soul]

then a strange slowly spinning multifaceted glassy construction.

Is it possible to elaborate, I can't see.
Is the environment like a glassy spinning constuction? Like looking through a kaleidoscope?

Or is it an object, like a crystal ball, that seems to have elements of being fractal-like.