Hypnotic chastity and orgasm control

[Like Ra]

it doesn't work if you play it in the browser

True, it might be not fully downloaded by the browser and then looped.

[CuriousMind]

Siren has a chastity file that is geared towards men.  I listened to it last night and it holds up really well.  Her zero induction is still probably the best recorded I've come across.  

Listened to it, but it seems it's just the induction looped several times, what am I missing?

I had the same issue before , you have to download the file, it doesn't work if you play it in the browser

Thanks, I'll try that

[subdream]

In case you missed it... Calia created her own version of Cal's Curse, called Calia's Curse:
https://mistresscalia.com/calias-curse-orgasm-denial/

She also has a file that restricts who can give you permission to an important person in your life, called True Love's Curse:
https://mistresscalia.com/true-loves-curse/

And last but not least she has a curse that takes it one step further:
https://mistresscalia.com/forever-locked...ity-curse/

[Iniga]

Something I'm interested in is what files people enjoy whilst locked in chastity.  More specifically when the hypnosis acknowledges that you are currently locked as well.  For instance, sleepyhead has the princess palace which amongst other things assume you are locked.  These arnt bad but I'm wondering if I'm missing out on other fun stuff, particularly anything that involves feminisation.

This (no longer available) file?


The Princess Palace 01 - Perfect Princess Pet.mp3 (Size: 50.49 MB )



I like that one a lot too!

If you like that, you might like their new "Who's a Good Puppy" (iplaywithdolls now).  The long version has denial & chastity, mostly missing on the short hypnotube version.

The question is cool, but really depends on why someone likes denial/chastity.... Can be what I call "butch guys" (otherwise know as "real men" or "alpha males" in the sissy kink), who just like giving up a bit of control to their spouce/SO/partner or enjoy the build up & frustration, or simply like a bit of what they may find humiliating. Or for people who are into various forms of feminization, because it is aesthetically pleasing, takes away that focal point for pleasure & forces you to explore other pleasurable methods for release, or as above, enjoy the rush of the frustration or for some even, humiliation. ... I'm sure there are a lot more reasons. just off the top of my head.... 

Lots of women are also into it (as the locked/denied one):  https://old.reddit.com/r/Femaleorgasmdenial/
.. not only amab people. 

For me, I find chastity aesthetically pleasing & sometimes even physically snuggly, enjoy being forced to find more inventive ways to find pleasure & release if allowed. The high and dopamine rush from being locked & denied is also pleasurable for me. 

Due to the latter, I like being teased when caged. If solo, that might be with files as in this thread which remind me of my condition or just the opposite... files/videos where someone is allowed to pleasure themselves in ways I cannot. 

First best is ofc having a SO/partner/friend you live together with as your key holder, who can tease you, watch over your cleaning releases (tied hands behind the back is fun) and enjoy the focus being shifted more towards their needs with a lot of enthusiasm 😁 . In my personal experience, women are often a bit more open to it for their partners than men 🤷🏽‍♀️ especially after they have enjoyed that focus switch.

Second best, is a local friend (can be someone much like yourself & also caged, you can be each other's keyholders). If you are both open and like to explore, you can combine that with supervised cleaning releases, dressing up, more explorative games or even have one per dice roll unlocked for a meeting and take on a more dominant role.. use your imagination & just stay within the (pre discussed) limits of both people. 

Thrid best, having an online friend & keyholder (like often on faproulette or chaster), who can tease you, give you tasks etc. Usually works best (I find) with people you know better & when (both) know how to pull the other's strings. 

And lastly, solo self locked. You simply choose material (audio/video) or situations (go swimming caged) which best fit the reasons why you are locking up in the first place. If you are out & about running errands, adding a plug and listening to a file on your phone which focuses your thoughts where they normally wouldn't be (clear text works better for me when outdoos, like SB's Bend Over 1-3) can make it a lot more enjoyable than usual .

[Iniga]

Cal's Curse

https://warpmymind.com/index.php?gadget=...le_id=2058
As far as curses go, this one's mild: you need permission to orgasm. Anyone can give you permission, anyone at all. But without SOMEONE'S permission, you are NOT going to come, no matter how much you try, no matter how long you beg. Of course, begging turns you on, which doesn't help matters one bit.

There is even a dedicated subreddit for this: https://www.reddit.com/r/CalsCurseVictims

Apparently now also banned, 8 days ago.... people relying on public permission may have quite an interesting wait now.... that will keep them safe?

   

Someone must have gotten desperate, the new one: https://old.reddit.com/r/calscurse/

[Like Ra]

Apparently now also banned, 8 days ago.

I wonder what the reason was...

And now on SoundCloud

Cal's Curse With Binaural Effects

https://soundcloud.com/4040soundsforher/...al-effects

[Like Ra]

Oh, that's an interesting list!

https://www.reddit.com/r/calscurse/comme...al_sources

Cal’s Curse and Denial Sources


Here is a list of known Cal’s Curse-like and orgasm denial files. Feel free to comment on the ones that you miss on the list and I will add them. This post is inspired by the old subreddit sources post.

Cal’s curse like (Orgasm with permission):
OG M4A
https://soundcloud.com/4040soundsforher/...al-effects 
https://soundcloud.com/user-123057950/cals-curse
Calia’s Curse F4A
https://mistresscalia.com/calias-curse-orgasm-denial
Calia’s true love curse F4A
https://mistresscalia.com/true-loves-curse
Twisted Elegance Old Free F4A version
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwistedElegance..._denial_ad
Twisted Elegance new version (paid / patreon)
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwistedElegance...e_revamped
SnowberryHoney locked tight [F4A][NB4A]
https://soundgasm.net/u/SnowberryHoney/F...cked-Tight 

Temporary denial
Lilith Chastity Chains (21 days of not listening potential forever) F4A
https://lilithunleashed.net/2022/07/07/chastity-chains 
Lilith Dials of Chastity (a week or a month) F4A
https://lilithunleashed.net/2022/06/23/d...f-chastity 

Complete denial 
Orgasm Go Bye Bye F4A
https://lilithunleashed.net/2023/07/28/o...go-bye-bye
Cumming Is Temporary Horny Is Forever F4A
https://lilithunleashed.net/2022/09/19/c...is-forever 

No Touch Mental Chastity
Sammys Mental Chastity F4A
https://soundgasm.net/u/MommySammys/F4A-...sm-Control 
https://hypnohellven.com/audio/mental-chastity 
Calia Locked Forever Chastity Curse F4A
https://mistresscalia.com/forever-locked-chastity-curse 
BullPower (Paid file) recommended by u/oddbodybuilder (No touch gym motivation testosteron increase etc.) M4M
https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?gad...e_id=12146
LeeAllure Dark Side Chastity F4A
https://leeallure.com/en/premium-dark-si...stity.html
https://www.patreon.com/posts/locktober-...-113417188
Sammys Just One Week F4A
https://soundgasm.net/u/MommySammys/F4A-...ion-Edging

Misc
Lilith Curse (Only Nipple or HFO orgasm)
https://lilithunleashed.net/2022/02/10/liliths-curse
Calia Constant pleasure curse F4A
https://mistresscalia.com/curse-of-constant-pleasure


Bull Power files and variations 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/p4cq04gei...57j1y&dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/f1q5ze8rv...8uu7i&dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/aj6b5i8nu...119cc&dl=0
These files prevent touch, convince you to go to the gym, and help with muscle growth. They are what I use.
And here is a special file designed to help those that have trouble getting the results they want. Use this one before the one that has the desired effect.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/thk60tigt...l7fhq&dl=0

[Like Ra]

Cal's Curse redone by TwistedElegance

https://warpmymind.com/index.php?gadget=...e_id=17282

This curse forces you to need permission to orgasm. Anyone can give you permission but it must be with the knowledge of what they are giving you permission for AND it cannot be reused (such as a recording you play over and over). It doesn't matter how badly you want to cum, nor how much you beg. You will be unable to achieve climax without the permission of another person. 
 
All credit goes to Reddit user u/Falling_Leaf for his work... I am simply lending my voice to it  at the community's request to create a female voiced version in tribute to his legacy. May it honor him and... torture.. you.

At the end... I do ad lib my own stuff... so, enjoy being under my spell. Hope you enjoyed that.. last.. orgasm

** There is a removal available as well **

Edited and encouraged by the lovely Reddit user u/lovesthepain -- who also wrote the removal. If you enjoy this file, please give him a thank you because without him I wouldn't have made it. 😊

For more of my work, you can visit: Here

Cals_Curse_Female_Voice_Orgasm_DenialBinaural_(MP3).mp3 (Size: 36.38 MB )

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Chastity via Hypnosis success

Post by male_pet » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:14 pm

I have been interested in chastity for years, and experimented with various devices (CB2000, CB3000, CB6000S, Dickcage) all with rather unsatisfying results. As a "grower" and not a "shower", wearing the belts with a reasonable degree of comfort always meant that it was quite easy to pull out and get free. My wife/KH was rather underwhelmed as well - she did not like worrying if anything was being chafed or damaged, the rigamarole of belting and unbelting, and the fact that my chastity was effectively me being on the honor system. Every time we got started or re-started with chastity, after a month or two the hassles began to outweigh the benefits (especially with an active child running around), and the belt would go back into the drawer.

I happened to come across a chastity via hypnosis file that seemed to be a good solution to problem: Virtual Chasity by Mistress Samba. There are many hypnotic chastity files out there, but almost all of them make the Hypno-Domme the keyholder. Virtual Chastity is different - when you listen to the file you have the opportunity to imagine who you would like to have as your keyholder. The file suggests that you are unable to cum without the permission of your keyholder, so it enables a fair amount of teasing to occur. I listened to the file for several weeks.....and it didn't work for me. It did turn me into one hell of an edger for a while, but it didn't keep me fully chaste. After failure, i gave up and put it away in the drawer.

About a year later, I purchased the CB6000S and the Dickcage. While experimenting with wearing them, I started listening to the Virtual Chastity file again. That is when things started to get interesting. Listening to the file while in chastity seemed to reinforce the suggestions in the file. The most obvious change is that instead of breaking down and pulling out and cheating after a week or two, I was much more willing to stay chaste in the belt. There are suggestions in the file that you prefer staying horny to feeling the post-orgasm slump, so I am guessing that had something to do with it. My keyholder definitely liked the increase in control, but was still underwhelmed by aesthetics, hygiene, and logistics of the belt.

I started looking for another Chastity file, and came across Dark Side Chastity by Lee Allure. This file suggests that you can only touch yourself for dressing, cleaning, and going to the bathroom - anything sexual and your hands literally cannot touch your cock. And though the file defaults to Lee as the keyholder, she is glad to transfer control of the belt to your significant other. I spent several weeks listening to some preliminary files,and then finally listened to Dark Side Chastity several times....and it worked! I expected transfer of control of the belt to be complicated, but all Lee did was say in an email that my significant other could use all of the hypnotic triggers I had learned. That was it, and I was off to the races.

I have been wearing the hypnotic belt for two months now, and I have to say that it works as advertised. It's effects are quite subtle. I don't really feel it's presence in any way: bathing, peeing, morning scratching all happen normally. Touching is another story! It is a bit hard to describe, but my hand just hovers near my cock when I try to touch it. It feels like I could easily go that last inch and grab it, but my will seems to get short circuited before going that last inch. It's sort of analogous to procrastination - it feel like I could easily do it, yet I just rationalize some excuse not to do it and move on to something else.

Do any reading about hypnosis, and you will soon see that the universal consensus is that you cannot be made to do anything against your will through hypnosis. Hypnotic suggestions are just that.... suggestions that you can accept or reject. I have no reason to doubt that this is absolutely correct. One often cited example of this effect is that if you are holding a glass of red wine in your palm standing in the middle of a big white rug, your subconscious won't let you go into deep trance because the glass would spill and make a mess. Remove the glass, and boom, you can go out like a light. My wife is actually comforted by this principle, because she knows if things went beyond my limits, the hypnotic suggestions would be rejected automatically. In BDSM terms, the sub-conscious can safeword at any time. In practical terms, there are also files out there that will uninstall all your triggers if you run into problems, or worst case you can always spend an afternoon with a real hypnotherapist and they should be able undo any unwanted hypnotic effects.

However, the real success story is that my keyholder *really* likes it. She always saw chastity devices as somewhat "fake" because they were always escapable. Aside from pullout issues, there is always the emergency key, or taking a hacksaw to the lock. Ironically, doing chastity without a device is much more real for her because she is totally in charge of when it goes on and goes off. No more "I'll just put on in morning,honey" or "there is some swelling, so lets unlock me"...it just goes on and comes off when she gives the word, and that seems to really appeal to her. The convenience is a big hit as well - no more worries about chafing and swelling, and she can tease me all she likes without having to bother with getting a belt on and off. She can even sit back, remove the belt, and have me tease myself under her supervision. Nice! It's very vanilla on the surface, but there is definitely an emerging power exchange going on.

There seems to be little written about chastity using hypnosis, but I think it is something that is worth greater exploration by the chastity community. Security problems? A hypnotic chastity belt might be able to address them. Active lifestyle/curious kids? Hypnotic chastity might be the way to go. Vanilla wife? Saying a few magic words to control your orgasm might be much more appealing than device based chastity in steel or plastic.

The upsides are pretty obvious, but there are a few downsides. One is that it makes it a bit easier to be locked and left. There is no need to get unlocked for cleaning, or for inspection, or all the other rituals of physical device wear. A family vacation for us was then followed by a death in the family,and playing around in the bedroom was off the table for several weeks. While an interesting test of the belt's effectiveness...I wouldn't want to be in hypnotic chastity belt in a relatively sexless marriage. A second downside is that you don't get the bondage aspects or the erection control, which seems to be an important component of the fetish for some people. I was surprised to find out how much I didn't necessarily want the device, but instead wanted the orgasm control, but it's clear that opinions vary from person to person. The final downside is that to a certain extent you really are at the mercy of your keyholder. You can't just cut the lock or throw the belt away. She doesn't need your cooperation to put it on or keep it on, if you have accepted the suggestion. As they say, be careful what you wish for. If you are skeptical and think this is all BS, but try it anyway, don't be surprised it it works all too well. In any case, all these downsides are best addressed by good communication in a healthy relationship. If you have a bad relationship or want to use hypnotic chastity to fix a lack of intimacy, perhaps hypnotic chastity is not for you.

For those interested in pursuing hypnotic chastity a bit of advice:

1) Take your time and be patient. Going into a hypnotic trance is skill like everything else, and it can take some practice to get good at. There are some people who are naturals - these are the folks a stage hypnotist can easily identify to make those stage shows happen for real. For the rest of us, it takes some time and practice. Practice when you are relaxed and unstressed.

2) Start with the simple stuff and build confidence. Don't just dive into one the chastity files off the bat. Start with relatively vanilla trances and inductions that are fun and enjoyable and for which there is no pressure to succeed.

3) Don't listen as you fall asleep. It either won't work, or will take much longer to work. If you "fall asleep" during trance, but then wake up at the end of the file when the voice on the file is telling you to wake up - good! You weren't asleep at all, you were actually in a good deep trance. Fretting about various things when getting into trance is not helpful. However, your mind wandering away from the hypnotists words in a nap-like reverie is fine - your subconscious is still paying attention as you daydream in trance.

4) Don't test to see if it worked at first. If you are listening to the chastity file - don't masturbate! It might help if you wear a physical belt and stay chaste the first few times you listen to the chastity file. Fake it til you make it.

5) Realize that everyone goes into trance differently. Some people black out. Some people wonder if they were even hypnotized at all. Some respond to suggestions not to remember, some can't visualize at all, and some don't strongly feel suggested sensations. This might improve for you in time, but there are even very good hypnotic subjects who find aspects of trance a challenge.

6) It can help if you trust your hypnotist. If you have concerns about the content of a file, skip over the first half of the file and listen to he main suggestions of the file while you are not in trance. Once you are certain that everything in the file is right for you, then listen to the full file with confidence.

In general, I would suggest you start with Lee Allure's free files. She has a very pleasant voice and she doesn't some across as some over the top uber-Domme. Go to her website at leeallure.com and scroll down the bottom of the page and click on "Begin Here" and follow her file suggestions. Experiment with the other free files to get more comfortable with the basics of hypnosis. When you are used to going into trance, you should then listen to Dark Side Deep. It is a paid file that takes you deeper into trance. This file seemed to really help me make progress, so while it is not strictly required, it did seem to really do the trick for me. If you want full chastity with a hypnotic CB, listen to the (paid) Dark Side Chastity file a few times,and see how it goes. For those of you really into self teasing and edging, perhaps (paid) Virtual Chasity by Mistress Samba is the way to go (sambasweb.com/erotic_hypnosis_mp3/home.php).

Stop in Place: The Lazy Summer Day free file that is the foundation of Lee's files installs a trigger to go back into trance easily and a trigger to Stop in Place/Freeze/Pause. It's not necessarily important, but it is an effective way to convince yourself that you are going into trance and responding to hypnotic suggestions. On Lee's "Begin Here" page, she mentions a cocktail file that contains several of her free files in combination. It ends with the Stop In Place file, and that will have you sitting there immobile for 5 minutes after the file ends. I listened, it worked, and it helped to dispel some of the feeling that you are just playing along and deluding yourself.

Virtual Key: The "Key" is basically a post-hypnotic trigger phrase. "Belt on" puts it on. "Belt off" removes it. Lee seems to prefer having the belt installed and working well before transferring the key to your spouse. The transfer process is trivial - Lee basically says in an email "Your spouse can use the triggers in my files" - and that is it. I was leery about the whole process at first, but having gone through it, it's no big deal. There is one very interesting side effect - my wife also can use the Pause trigger and the go quickly into trance triggers as well. She LOVES the Pause trigger, and using it for messing with me, teasing/edging, and quickie bondage. In theory, she could use the trance trigger and try to make new suggestions, but we haven't explored that at all.

At first, I was worried about the triggers being accidentally invoked, envisioning me constantly getting Paused while we scramble for the Tivo remote to pause a show. It simply never happens - your subconscious seems to do a good job of applying the triggers where appropriate. Sometimes it will apply them appropriately a bit too well. One night during some PIV teasing, my wife was having me thrust for a while and then would use the Pause command to stop me, then use the release trigger to have me thrust again. She did it about half a dozen times, but she got distracted towards the end and forgot that she left me Paused when she finished. She nudged, then hinted that I should move, but I was just flopped down on top of her. I was fully aware and knew she wanted me to move, but my internal debate whether to move seemed to only prolong the Pause state. She finally said "Is something wrong with you?" with a note of concern in her voice, and I instantly broke out of the Pause state without the release trigger being said.

Orgasm Control: There is definitely some effect, but it is not clear cut. I am able to hold out far longer than I have any right to expect after being belted for days/weeks. Thinking back on it, I can't remember cumming without permission during PIV sex or when getting a handjob when the belt was on. It *feels* like I easily can, but so far it when there have been releases they have come when my wife was ready. We have not done an "acid test" of whether it is truly impossible to orgasm when the belt is on, but I will be sure to pass along word that there is a pressing need for such an important scientific endeavor.

Arousal: All the Lee Allure chastity file does is keep you from touching your junk with sexual intent. It doesn't seem to affect arousal levels. If locked in a physical belt, and circumstances keep the fun and games at bay, I tend to hunker down and crave sex less. The same thing seems to happen when I am the hypnotic belt, but I think that has much more to do with my personal physical response to chastity (of any form) than the hypnotic chastity file.

One other interesting bit to note: we played around one night when we were both quite tipsy. I was triggered to get out of the belt, and enjoyed an orgasm, and was triggered back into the belt before falling asleep. The next morning, the belt was OFF. Apparently the booze interfered with the setting of of the trigger the night before. I figured out that the belt was not on in the way you would expect, and then later asked my wife if it was her intent to "leave the belt off" the night before..... She said hell no, said the belt on trigger, and I was back in chastity.

As I said before, the best course is to just play around with Lee's free files for a while while you get used to going into trance. Once you get up to speed on what hypnosis is (and isn't), then the path forward is much more clear. Of course, I didn't follow this advice, and I know that most of the readers on this site have a hunger for chastity that will push them to want to try the chastity file ASAP. Try to take your time. A physical belt can take weeks to adjust to get things safe, secure and functional. Consider the idea that a hypnotic chastity belt *might* require a similar prep time of laying the groundwork for success. For a physical belt, the first wearing is just the start of a long process of adjustment and adaptation. For a hypnotic belt, the adjustment and adaptation is to the mechanics of going into a good trance. Once that is accomplished, the installation of the hypnotic belt comes towards the end of the process.

The hypnotic chastity belt doesn't affect arousal, horniness, desire, etc. Nothing diminishes or impedes your arousal through hypnotic chastity.

The effects are very subtle. At first, I highly suspected that I was just playing along with a charade, because nothing felt different at all. The primary change was that when I went to grab myself with sexual intent, my hand would stop short. In the file, the suggestion is that when the belt is on it's like your cock and your hands have different magnetic polarities and your hands just fly away when you try to grab. In my case it's like my hand just hovers millimeters from my cock,and I can go no further. All the desire is there, it's just that my will seems to short circuit when I try to grab and masturbate. I want to, nothing is preventing me, but when I will it, it seems I lack that little bit of mental oomph to close the circuit and make it happen. Frustrating? You bet! Then of course, minutes later I will go to the bathroom, fish my cock out my underwear, grab it, aim, tuck, and zipper like everything is normal.

The desire and ache to masturbate still remains strong. At first, I would be cruising Tumblr porn or various websites and would reach down automatically, only to find myself stopping short. After a while, I stopped bothering to try (well, for the most part). It's like if you are testing the security of a physical belt - at first you wriggle and pull and slide to try to get free. Once you have tested it to satisfaction, you stop bothering to try escaping. That doesn't mean you wouldn't really, really, like to get unbelted for release...it's just that fighting it is futile. I have stopped reaching into my pants, but that doesn't mean I'm not aching to rub one out.

After 2 months of completely regulated cumming it's pretty clear to me that I am not just playing along with a charade. Before hypnotic chastity, I was good for about a week on the honor system. I have characterized some of the experience in terms of procrastination or distraction because there seems to be something else going on a subtle level. In physical chastity, I always felt compelled to defeat the security eventually, through pull-out, squeezing through silicone, or whatnot. In hypnotic chastity, I don't feel that need to try to defeat the security. Could I try to lawyer the rules by trying a Fleshlight, or humping some sex aid? In theory, but the idea doesn't have strong appeal. That is why I use the terms procrastination and distraction, because those are typical forms of self-defeating behavior. I can just barely detect the hint of a similar process with the chastity - although in this case my subconscious self is defeating my impulse to want to cheat to gain release. The way my brain seems to be accomplishing that is by offering up a series of rationalizations to do it later, or not follow through, and by making the idea of defeating the hypnotic chastity sort of boring instead of enticing or exciting.

Again, let me state for the record, it doesn't *feel* that way. Everything feels completely normal. For two months I haven't been seriously tempted to circumvent the hypnotic belt. That is *not* normal (at least for me). It is not obvious why, but the procrastination/distraction/boredom mechanism is my explanation for what seems to be occurring behind the scenes. My desire for sex and arousal isn't being affected at all, but my interest in subverting/escaping/cheating hypnotic chastity does seem to be dampened.

I should also note that there is nothing mentioning a procrastination/distraction/boredom mechanism on the chastity file. On one part of the file, there is some guided imagery where you go to the control room of your brain, and there are all sorts of knobs and switches. Chastity is a setting on the Sexuality control panel, and the file suggests that you turn the switch to ON (thus activating the on/off trigger and the "magnetic hands"). My guess is that the procrastination/distraction/boredom mechanism is the way my subconscious chose to implement the "chastity mode." I tend to be a procrastinator, so it makes sense for me. Your brain may do something differently behind the scenes that works for you more effectively.

Bottom line: you will get your fill of arousal (and more) in hypnotic chastity!