General hypnosis and NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) discussion

I am simply trying to dissuade the (common) fear that it's all fake, that this is completely and solely the hypnosis' fault, etc...

I get that and i totally agree, imo every hypnosis is self hypnosis, and there should be no worry about being transformed against your will.
But it also is no clear indicator of your gender. After all this is all fetish territory. Sometimes those fetishes align with the basal desires of sexual expression, that trans people obviously have such a hard time with, but sometimes it just is a fetish. In which case a surgery or chemical castration would cripple and not liberate a person.

Honestly, I am just curious to find other creators/sources with long lasting or behavior changing effects. And I mean with hypno as a whole, not just sissy stuff, although Bambi is a very good example of what I mean.
I know some, Kei (which I learned about on this very website), bambi, and one or two other bimbo-focused types. I am just curious to see if there are any other that people consider to have changed the way they live or had serious consequences. Not necessarily in a negative way, just more generally.

[Like Ra]

That's interesting! Posthypnotic amnesia (PHA) works!

Recognition in Posthypnotic Amnesia, Revisited

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article...22162/#R84

Abstract

Three experiments studied recognition during posthypnotic amnesia (PHA) employing confidence ratings rather than the traditional yes/no format. As the criterion for recognition was loosened, an increase in hits was accompanied by an increase in false alarms, especially to distractor items that were conceptually related to, or semantically associated with, targets. Nevertheless, hits exceeded false alarms at every level of confidence. In addition, amnesic subjects had difficulty identifying the particular list on which recognized items were presented for study or the correct order in which targets appeared on the study list. Taken together, these findings support the conclusion that successful recognition during PHA is more likely to be mediated by a priming-based feeling familiarity than conscious recollection.

Geneal Discussion

Taken together, these three experiments, employing continuous confidence ratings instead of the usual dichotomous yes/no judgments, confirm that subjects experiencing PHA can recognize items that they cannot recall. However, they also indicate that recognition does not abolish PHA entirely. Compared to nonamnesic controls, amnesic subjects were less confident both in their recognition of items memorized during hypnosis and in their rejection of similar items that had not been studied earlier. Employing strict and moderate criteria for recognition, amnesic subjects still failed to remember all the words they had learned. Even under the most liberal criterion, recognition fell short of perfect, as the further increase in hits was accompanied by a substantial increase in false alarms—especially to conceptually or associatively related lures. The amnesic subjects were not merely guessing, however, because hits exceeded false alarms even when the lures were members of the same natural category (Experiments 1 and 2) or close semantic associates (Experiment 3).

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[Like Ra]

Mainstream approaches in neuroscience are working very well, and most scientists agree with them. Our knowledge in that area advances fast, much faster than in any other time of our history.

In terms of physical characteristics - yes. But not in the fundamental questions, like: what is consciousness, when/if it appears or disappears, what/who is conscious, how thoughts are formed, etc. There is no progress there.

Can we call it a progress?

Your Consciousness Can Connect With the Whole Universe, Groundbreaking New Research Suggests

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science...ciousness/

Very strong buzzwords, but still someone is doing something in this area.

[Like Ra]

And this is the question of all questions: Why did you start listening to a particular hypno-file? Is it because "something inside or outside" decided that you need/want/deserve the effects of this file, and your rational mind needs some excuse to allow it to happen and to blame everything on that hypnosis? And this is why "it works as written on the label"?

Or it is rater for the "choice" thread? https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...e-a-choice

I'm trying to be courageous, i actually have experienced a severe physical and mental reactions. Body keeps feminizing, even with anti-aromatase. cannot begin to understand. I want to tell my story but lately i have been seeking mental help and trying to put a halt on anything. 

I have always had somewhat of a dual personality, but this is like, on steroids. 

I had a feeling that i lost my personality a while ago, and only after listening to removal files, that haven't worked completely, do i feel like I can see that personality, but like, its like a plush toy in a claw arcade game, but its toward the bottom, pressed against the glass, with no way to be reached. 

Afraid i have lost reproductive capability w/o hormones. 

I have a whole list of files over the years. 

W/O listing all the files as i'm short on time today, I'll tell you that this is a combination of using various files by "the gods."

- MSJ
- Goddess Gracie
- EMG
- Sarnoga
- Vive
- Nina Temptress
- Bambi
- Catgirl
- Thatonegurll/kasurademonwings
- some Kei
- the Librarian
- Samantha Bandler
- Isabella Valentine (b4 she stopped making fem files)
- a bunch of Randoms from WMM as well. 

I've been a junkie for this stuff, and am afraid of having potentially ruined my life. the effects were wonderful mentally, but it wasn't reality. If i'd not lived at home, i'd have likely changed genders long ago.

Can you please make a drive for all the files you have and share it with everyone or only me if you think it is risky to put on public threads. I can assure you that I specifically know what I want and have a good/decent understanding of hypno files including how they work and are made, so I can safely use and select the files for my goals/needs.

I'm trying to be courageous, i actually have experienced a severe physical and mental reactions. Body keeps feminizing, even with anti-aromatase. cannot begin to understand. I want to tell my story but lately i have been seeking mental help and trying to put a halt on anything. 

I have always had somewhat of a dual personality, but this is like, on steroids. 

I had a feeling that i lost my personality a while ago, and only after listening to removal files, that haven't worked completely, do i feel like I can see that personality, but like, its like a plush toy in a claw arcade game, but its toward the bottom, pressed against the glass, with no way to be reached. 

Afraid i have lost reproductive capability w/o hormones. 

I have a whole list of files over the years. 

W/O listing all the files as i'm short on time today, I'll tell you that this is a combination of using various files by "the gods."

- MSJ
- Goddess Gracie
- EMG
- Sarnoga
- Vive
- Nina Temptress
- Bambi
- Catgirl
- Thatonegurll/kasurademonwings
- some Kei
- the Librarian
- Samantha Bandler
- Isabella Valentine (b4 she stopped making fem files)
- a bunch of Randoms from WMM as well. 

I've been a junkie for this stuff, and am afraid of having potentially ruined my life. the effects were wonderful mentally, but it wasn't reality. If i'd not lived at home, i'd have likely changed genders long ago.

Can you please make a drive for all the files you have and share it with everyone or only me if you think it is risky to put on public threads. I can assure you that I specifically know what I want and have a good/decent understanding of hypno files including how they work and are made, so I can safely use and select the files for my goals/needs.

Almost all of these are Retroshare.   Message me for a private site with some of them also.

[Like Ra]

Doll aka Poppy asked me today is it good or bad, that I can ignore pretty much all triggers, regardless "the training", and I came with this:

It's both:

+ my internal observer works
+ my work on mindfulness is rather successful
+ I might be less triggered by non-relevant and non-pleasant events
+ I might be less influenced by propaganda
+ I might be protected from possible negative consequences of my fetisism

- I might miss some erotic fun
- I miss the ultimate "bondage effect" of hypnosis, when you ar "bound" to do or not do something (literally and figuratively)
- This erotic "bondage effect" is what most of us are looking for, in the absence of a trustful and experienced dominant person (BDSM/fetish/erotic-wise, that is)
- I might miss more of the "reality bending" effect

[Like Ra]

Not quite related to hypnosis, but related to the reality perception and psychiatric diagnosis.

Are you sure you can convince psychiatrists, that you are "normal" and "sane": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

The study concluded "it is clear that we cannot distinguish the sane from the insane in psychiatric hospitals"

From what I understand, they are the same: egregores are thought-forms and collective (un)conscious.

I would maybe take slight issue here, but, as I said it's the synchronistic feel that matters here (for me) not so much a need for exact conceptual congruity since all of our personal views are colored by our socialization/searching perspectives.

I don't differ with your other assessments but tend to consider egregores as being more 'special interest coalescences' in the collective unconscious. At least among humans and other meta-cognitive beings.

Meta-cognitive meaning the capability to reflect on the content of our inner experiences. This is a personal view for my own convenience in separating specific areas of personal inner observation versus the vast ocean of experience contained the entire collective unconscious.