(12 Aug 2020, 02:24 )Tinker D Wrote: Years ago, movie theaters use to splice food and drink slides into the film.
Sometimes it works sometimes nothing. It depends on what crowd shows up.
From what I understand, It depends if the person is hungry or thirsty or none of them. You cant exactaly make a person thristy but theres some weak evidence that showed if a person is thristy you may be able to influence what they decide to drink. Like coke or pepsi. Big maybe on that, should depend on how much they like the one over the other as well.
Specifically for hypno files, I would say people using them are precisely in "thirsty mode" and pretty ready to be influenced. So that helps.
(07 Apr 2022, 01:44 )erostratus Wrote: Basically, if there's any chance silent subliminals can work, you'll need bone conducting headphones. But even with those, I remain skeptical. Out of all the success stories I've read about hypnosis, I've never heard a story where someone made a behavioral change exclusively from silent subliminals.
Me too. I think that if the subliminals are not silent as such but on the verge of being intelligible if you really really pay attention, they can perhaps add another 10-20% to the experience. And that's not nothing. But silent subliminals, yeah, not without bone conduction or some other jump in tech.
07 Apr 2022, 21:17 (This post was last modified: 07 Apr 2022, 21:20 by shinybambi.)
They're almost like placebo, only work if you know they ' re there. Sames as 25 frame. In BS background "subliminal" are used not to transfer some hidden message, but to silence your mind to make you more susceptible to main track, for example. Quite genius trick I'd say.
29 Nov 2022, 01:51 (This post was last modified: 29 Nov 2022, 01:54 by Like Ra.)
I guess silent subs is one thing, but the real subs are ones you hear in trance and hidden very well. This should enter your subconscious better and memory as well.
You still hear it but don't notice it right away in your forward conscious, I think. After a lot of listens we all start searching for them and if you pay attention you will find them. I agree with the content of the file on first listen, I will just play it and trance out to it. More fun that way. Just search later on!!! 😁
The purpose of this research was to investigate what effect an auditory subliminal message, produced by speeding up the rate at which it was recorded, would have upon the imagery and dreams of a group of normal subjects. The auditory subliminal message was produced by speeding up a message that was sung until it could not be consciously understood. This message was mixed with a normal music recording and played to nine subjects in the experimental group. Nine subjects in the control group heard the normal music recording without the subliminal message. Both groups were asked to produce a pretest drawing before the tapes were played, an imagery drawing immediately after the tapes were played, and a dream drawing of any dreams they might have that night. A statistical analysis was performed from data collected on blind ratings given to all the drawings by two art therapists. The results indicated a significant difference between the dream drawings and the imagery drawings of the experimental group and the control group. When the drawings were examined, the effect of the subliminal message could be seen. Based on the statistical data and certain drawings collected in this study, it would appear that the auditory subliminal message did have an effect upon the imagery and dreams of the subjects in the experimental group. The results of this study appear to indicate that the unconscious/preconscious mind is able to perceive a recorded verbal message that cannot be consciously understood at the high rate of speed at which it was recorded.
Subliminal manipulation is often considered harmless because its effects typically decay within a second. So far, subliminal long-term effects on behavior were only observed in studies which repeatedly presented highly familiar information such as single words. These studies suggest that subliminal messages are only slowly stored and might not be stored at all if they provide novel, unfamiliar information. We speculated that subliminal messages might affect delayed decision-making especially if messages contain several pieces of novel information that must be relationally bound in long-term memory. Relational binding engages the hippocampal memory system, which can rapidly encode and durably store novel relations. Here, we hypothesized that subliminally presented stimulus pairs would be relationally processed influencing the direction of delayed conscious decisions. In experiment 1, subliminal face–occupation pairs affected conscious decisions about the income of these individuals almost half an hour later. In experiment 2, subliminal presentation of vocabulary of a foreign language enabled participants to later decide whether these foreign words are presented with correct or incorrect translations. Subliminal influence did not significantly decay if probed after 25 versus 15 min. This is unprecedented evidence of the longevity and impact of subliminal messages on conscious, rational decision-making.
I can tell you with near 100% certainty that subliminals can be effective and can set triggers, although I can't tell you how to make them effective or why they work.
I have personally experienced reacting to triggers that I never consciously heard, particularly in the files of Samantha Bandler and Kei. At one point I considered the possibility that I was just reacting in a way I expected and a trigger was never set, but upon closely examining files I've found suggestions to the effects I've experienced that I never heard until AFTER they affected me, and in some cases I still cannot hear them when I sit down to listen to the file. Some of these are dramatic or specific enough that I'm forced to accept that they were set subliminally, which is something was previously very skeptical about.
That said, *not all* subliminal triggers seem to work--I have found some that I don't think I've ever reacted to. What sets the effective ones apart, I couldn't tell you. I wish I could interview the person behind Samantha Bandler about how they do their subliminals and maybe hunt down what works. It's also possible, maybe even likely, that different things work better for different people.
I suspect part of it is the complex layers that Samantha usually uses in her files--I would guess that the subliminal track is loud enough to hear, but quiet enough that it's very difficult to pick out from the mix intentionally.
I understand that an anecdote from one random person online is not strong evidence, but I can assure you that I am of sound mind and am -absolutely convinced- that I was effected in this way, because I don't see any other way I would be effected like this.
The only other possibility I can even imagine is that I am experiencing very effective hypnotic amnesia--but that seems very unlikely, both because some of these files I have listened to dozens of times and have never once remembered hearing these triggers set, and because hypnotic amnesia is an effect that I have historically struggled to experience.
Effects I have had from triggers that I never consciously registered (i.e., I have no memory of the trigger being set, activated, or both):
*HFO
*My body shaking uncontrollably
*Feeling like I have no control over my arms and they're moving without my input to play with my nipples
#My body going completely limp when I try to get up after a file is over
+After the above, I become incredibly aroused and have an HFO. I cannot move my arms but am compelled to raise my hips so I cum on my face.
*Miming specific sexual acts during a file
*Miming specific sexual acts after a file
+#Falling forward onto my hands and knees, miming sexual acts, and then falling limp and having an HFO
*Incredible arousal at the sight of a specific image
*I am certain all of these suggestions are in the file due to careful examination AFTER being effected by them
+I am certain some of these suggestions are in the file due to careful examination, but I have not been able to confirm certain aspects
#I have confirmed suggestions that MAY be the cause of these effects, but they aren't direct
I hope the person behind SB passes on their knowledge before they retire, because with some rare exceptions, they are the only person who seems to be able to make this work for me--although it doesn't seem to be effective 100% of the time
I've tried numerous silent subliminals and other high-frequency (but still just barely audible) subliminals without any noticeable effect at all. One thing I think deserves mention is that if an audio file is encoded in mp3 the higher frequencies will be more degraded by the compression. We can see information still encoded there in the spectrogram, but it's hard to know how much is still intelligible, but we know that mp3 specifically removes bits from very high frequency ranges and audio masked by other audio - the exact mechanisms that subliminals work in. When creating new subliminals, I would recommend encoding in a lossless codec (like FLAC) and testing with that.
14 May 2025, 18:13 (This post was last modified: 14 May 2025, 18:15 by dustymoon1.)
(14 May 2025, 16:51 )RabbitSeason Wrote: I've tried numerous silent subliminals and other high-frequency (but still just barely audible) subliminals without any noticeable effect at all. One thing I think deserves mention is that if an audio file is encoded in mp3 the higher frequencies will be more degraded by the compression. We can see information still encoded there in the spectrogram, but it's hard to know how much is still intelligible, but we know that mp3 specifically removes bits from very high frequency ranges and audio masked by other audio - the exact mechanisms that subliminals work in. When creating new subliminals, I would recommend encoding in a lossless codec (like FLAC) and testing with that.
It also depends on in depth of encoding. One can have a 320kbs mp3 with 98% of the information present - most cannot tell the difference between a CD and 320 kbs. As one makes the file smaller, by encoding, more and more information is lost.
