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Body-modification hypnosis
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(27 May 2020, 20:57 )Like Ra Wrote:
(27 May 2020, 20:48 )Zooy Wrote: They are from 2010 and 2011.
They are published online in 2010 and 2011 Both DOI links are labelled 1977. The attached are the cited articles.

OK, I see now that they are just republished. But I do not find page 310 and also not the text you mention

"Begin reading from page 5 (page 310 in the scans)

Interesting fact:"

Quote: Wrote:Since some subjects who were not able to achieve deep hypnosis showed a greater increase in breast size than some who were, it appeared that depth of hypnosis was not a significant factor.

It does indeed give to think.
Some time ago I got a pumping machine for  breast enlargement. That is a whole story by itself as it broke rather quickly and I had to rebuild the complete electronics with a raspberry pi. They mention that one should apply warm towels after using it. In the first paper they advocate temperature as well.
My pumping machine had not much effect. Measurements each day showed fluctuations. If you measure at the wrong moment, you think: "it works!" but the next day you are back where you started. On the other hand: it is a rather relaxing massage.
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#22
By the way: I think that the results in those two papers are suspiciously positive. Way too positive.
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#23
(27 May 2020, 21:14 )Zooy Wrote: OK, I see now that they are just republished. But I do not find page 310 and also not the text you mention
It's for this paper: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...0#pid42980

(27 May 2020, 21:17 )Zooy Wrote: By the way: I think that the results in those two papers are suspiciously positive. Way too positive.
Check the paper above.
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(27 May 2020, 21:29 )Like Ra Wrote:
(27 May 2020, 21:14 )Zooy Wrote: OK, I see now that they are just republished. But I do not find page 310 and also not the text you mention
It's for this paper: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...0#pid42980

(27 May 2020, 21:17 )Zooy Wrote: By the way: I think that the results in those two papers are suspiciously positive. Way too positive.
Check the paper above

That is the paper I cannot get into.
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(27 May 2020, 22:14 )Zooy Wrote: That is the paper I cannot get into.
It's attached.
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#26
OK, now I found it. What messed me up was the page number which is 325 rather than 310. There are some strange things there. "They acted as their own control". What does that mean? The other papers use that also.
The size of the rib cage diminishes. ?????
That the breasts grow: OK. But why should the underlying size get smaller?
I would not let my students publish without investigating what is happening there. But then: I am not in the humanities. In my field it are little things like that that either make you find errors, or lead to interesting discoveries (usually errors unfortunately).
The next question is: to what extent are the subjects aware of what the suggestions are? In a control group of 3 people you do not have much leeway. They seem very confident that there is no "leakage" there.
An expert would probably have many more questions. After all, these things are difficult.

Yet, the results are tantalising. Why is there no follow up?
It would be really nice if this could be substantiated.
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(27 May 2020, 23:03 )Zooy Wrote: What messed me up was the page number which is 325 rather than 310
It should be 319 (I confused 9 with 0).

(27 May 2020, 23:03 )Zooy Wrote: Why is there no follow up?
Exactly!
(27 May 2020, 20:14 )Like Ra Wrote: What I find particularly interesting is the fact, that all researches I could find were conducted between 1960 and 1980.

Hypnosis is unpopular amongst those who give money for grants? "Pseudoscience"?

(27 May 2020, 23:03 )Zooy Wrote: Yet, the results are tantalising.

That's exactly why I started the thread! Hypnosis obviously works! And the results are measurable!
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(28 May 2020, 08:46 )MindsEye Wrote: This may shrink your penis:
Any results yet? 😉
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#30
I don't use this that often, but I bet it works.
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