Bambi Sleep stuff

[Xeklor]

Bambi Bunny Cult

What is this? Links? Files?

Well, Cult Bunny Bambi 😁 by shadowsynapses
https://bambicloud.com/playlist/1a802fe0...957350c374

[Like Ra]

Well, Cult Bunny Bambi 😁 by shadowsynapses

Let's invite him here? And create a separate thread?

[Xeklor]

Well, Cult Bunny Bambi 😁 by shadowsynapses

Let's invite him here? And create a separate thread?

We can try. Btw some pages ago somebody began to talk about but it came not too far.

[brandynette]

Well, Cult Bunny Bambi 😁 by shadowsynapses

Let's invite him here? And create a separate thread?

i need to meet them. i need to whorship

[Xeklor]

im a tester bambi for Bellmar's Moist Mess his first bambisleep rock opera.

OMG, I'm so jealous to you, wooow. I'm waiting this masterpice too ^^

i need to meet them. i need to whorship

Yes, yes, and yes, I wanna meet them too, hehe. Maybe I will listen that playlist today again. Hmm...

[Like Ra]

This is our conversation with @"Doll aka Poppy" on Bellmar's Discord. Doll kindly allowed me to republish it here (thanks much, Doll!)

I think there's an important counter lesson here that attracts a lot of smart people, myself included. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's healthy for you to engage in that activity

We as society put so much value on "success", money, and so forth. All of those things we work for.. status symbols.. the rat race.

To me, it's the opposite of what bambisleep has given, a central focus based on love and service.. putting others before myself.

Yeah of course the pink fuzzy head is amazing, that's the reward, as is the hyper sexuality- (which believe it or not Doll began her path to doll about a decade ago, in part to become more sexual, with her baseline being closer to asexual. Was incredibly difficult to connect in intimate relationships.

Main point is that intelligence, how we value it worldwide is like an achievement- something to be worked towards. When in reality it's the luck of the draw. There's always going to be someone better, eventually than you at the apex of a career. Another bill gates, Steve Jobs,

All those someday things we work for. Those things we build up for that person we might see or might not.

Yet here we are. Every day. The question I ask myself is, are those things making me happy? Because this biological lifespan is all I have. I'm the only one that can live it.

Those things I'm working towards.. yes. Absolutely they can be worth it, but for me they need to be in line with my daily quality of life increasing. That's what I can count on. Today. The rest is a guess Life happens. People change. The world changes. I change.

I know for me, Bambi sleep keeps me focused on a central why and how I want to live my life.

Through love, light, and service in every interaction and every relationship I have. I try to bring that. (I fail miserably, but it's how I want to live).

My intelligence, it's extremely painful, it hurts. I can do it, I am really really good at it. But it has set me aside from most of humanity, a price I'm still paying.

Bambi sleep has allowed me to understand that my worth is not tied to intelligence, I'm valid simply by existing. That for me, and for most of human history, it is, was relationships that matter. Connections. Not success. We are a tribal species.

A cursed species with the ability to imagine the futures and remember the past.

Yet here we are, always stuck in this moment, which is all we have.

It's nice- to me, to be reminded that the present should occasionally be treated like the gift it is

Let me rephraze. What is the point of reducing the intelligence? We all need compassion, love, care, absolutely. But why at the expense of intelligence? Why can't you focus on the better yourself, without degrading things?

Because for some people the world, intelligence is actually painful, harmful.

Going to flip the scenario. Let's say a gifted athlete, could go all the way to make millions. But it's not something they actually enjoy and engaging in that activity actually causes them harm- yet because there is a social expectation that they perform they continue to do so. And do so.

Some figure out that they have that choice, to walk away. Even if they know it, to actually do it, with all the expectations and reinforcing feedback loops, it's not as easy as saying "I quit" because society has said "this is your value, and how you can be valuable to society" - to play a game, or a sport, or to entertain in this example.

That gets reinforced enough. Other avenues get trimmed. That message gets intertwined into the identity, and even if that athlete is miserable, the odds- even if they want to and try to break the cycle To stop- what they pay, that cost is so high. Losing relationships, support, connections- livelihood, certainty. Even if it's crushing them. Even if they aren't really living. They stay. Because to change, to upset the status quo is so hard. The pain so familiar. It's their life after all. It's what they know. One more day..can't hurt more than the last.. except it does.

If only they could understand that those expectations are from society, reflecting "oh we can use this", and what is useful changes so quickly , and valued so little.

All these things are interchangeable. Life, time, relationships, connections. Those are finite. We don't get extensions on that.

I'm aware I am outlier with intelligence. Though there are many studies that look into the decreases quality of life highly intelligent individuals have. This is primarily due to how their minds work, and not being able to connect with most of humanity, resulting in isolation.

Many of these people can take in large amounts of information non stop and use that information in diverse ways, which further increases the distance and energy required to connect.

I've been there. Sometimes it's easier to simply not think as much, as for me it helps me be more present with connecting. Not ruling the conversation listening for understanding. It can also be a much needed break from, me. If your own mind won't stop- 20 hours a day 7 days a week of actual productive activity and in my case I have near absolute empathy. It can be very therapeutic to gain distance. Or I take a break. Know when to stop.

Imagine a talented violinist. A virtuoso. Full concert halls. Success. Then he suddenly decides, that he does not want to do what people expect from him, he wants to be a sprinter, and cuts his fingers off.

What would you tell him?

I like to have an empty head to reduce stress, and inhibition. My asd leaves me with many quirks and anxieties that simply not thinking or worrying about allows me to pay attention to the moment and what’s really important etc. Also, having an IQ far above average makes average intelligence people dislike, distrust, and fear me. Avoid inviting me along etc. Sometimes it’s nice to be known for giggling about nothing, chewing gum, and loves showing my tits, rather than the know it all stick in the mud party pooper.

The ability to stop your internal dialogue (or stop the stream of thoughts) and being stꧮpid are two completely different things.

This is what Yoga and Qigong are good for. They offer a 3 step approach:

- Learn to control your body
- Learn to control your emotions
- Learn to control your mind

I believe the spirit of the discussion is that bambisleep is a tool that is extremely diverse. It attracts many people who need it for different reasons.

People like myself, the arguments you listed I have done, mastered, taught , had a career in- still do.

Unfortunately- my body, biologically speaking wouldn't calm down- hyperadrenergic postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, left my stress hormones at 1,000% at normal levels since 2013.

As for the brain, really difficult to calm the mind when both the hippocampus and the amygdala on one side of the brain are having between 30-120 seizures a day for decades (those are the memory, emotional processing, regulation and integration center, and fear center).

I have been meditating daily since age 11, teach meditation, mindset coach, and so on, and yet.. without Bambi sleep.. it was beyond my grasp outside of those intentional practices.

That is of course my unique story, an extreme example. But what I mean to say is, we all get here for different reasons, we all have different tools, and different needs, different paths. Different things that we are looking for, and if we end up staying here, it's usually not because the dopamine hit- but because there is a reflection of what is needed, wanted, to feel and become whole, valid, valued and validated. That we get what we can and what we put in.

Of course Bambi sleep is not inherently good. Nor I believe is it inherently bad. Different needs, different paths, different lives.

To me one of the most beautiful things is Bambi sleep, for the right person at the right time can be the missing link, and kick off that journey within to figure out how to love yourself, know that all the cosmetic work doesn't matter as the beauty is always underneath.

That's the real adventure, in my experience at least. Getting to know myself, what matters and why- and knowing that yeah "cosmetics and fashion are fun, but it's not going to keep people around; how do I keep myself healthy- beginning with the mind, body, spirit. From the inside out. Sometimes I find myself right back here as the mind is where it comes from for me. Without that sorted, what's the point of the new dresses and cosmetics and intelligence. If "I'm content, I'm just not content being content" which is where I was in 2017- Bambi sleep was a good place to begin to figure out how to get that sorted- but that's Doll's story. Just one of countless.

Know thyself for what else is there to know

[Like Ra]

I have been meditating daily since age 11, teach meditation, mindset coach, and so on, and yet.. without Bambi sleep.. it was beyond my grasp outside of those intentional practices.

How would you describe the difference?

In my case, hypno and, for example, spontaneous qigong/yoga work similar. You stop the internal dialogue and follow your body, while the body moves "on its own".

For the record, Bambi never actually worked for me, besides the GG trigger (does not work anymore), "dry orgasms" (one file) and one HFO (another file) "during" listening. Nothing "after". And only the original files.

That's a really good question that deserves a really good response.

The biggest starting difference was that beginning, Doll was aeady able to meditate, intentional practice for 36 hours straight, was able to control brainwaves, the central nervous system, emotional regulation. It was a lifelong tool. It did work. But it was a process, process driven, in order to maintain a calm state.

I would say if it were not for meditation I would not have made it to 2017, as my particular epilepsy presentation and brain is the only one in the world- my neurosurgeon calls me his N=1 (both centers of the brain were removed on the right side around the start of this February).

Meditation did do all the things that you're talking about, absolutely- but what it also did was make it easier to separate and compartmentalize the rational and emotional and even different emotions and emotions altogether.

That likely saved my life- as it often allowed me to bypass the emotional processing centers and have less seizures, but.. in turn drew me away- further from being able to connect with people.

Bambi sleep, helped reconnect those centers through a different lens, and for Doll at the time, what she was able to see as a narrative of a different life, if only she could simply stop with the pursuit, her own standards set higher than anyone would ever set, and with her health, it was always literally survive or die for decades. She had to be the best at everything; literally, in order to get to the next day safely, alive, not in the hospital, not homeless, not choosing between a career or or health because she ended up being able to do things differently, that companies found valuable.

This drive, that couldn't be stopped because of a threat that was real both due to the complexity of the health; she had to advocate for herself at a medical degree level even through surgeries and while ha if seizures. It was on her.

Fear. Meditation fell short on transferring that serenity to the identity.

Bambi sleep, because of its deep involvement with identity was able to begin to bridge that gap. In doing so it kicked of that journey of going inward into the darkness to connect everything, to explore oneself fully and figure our what matters and why- and if it's not there, feel what it's like to have it. That was a lot. To know what it's like. It made the efforts that have come after. To keep trying ,to keep changing, to do what is necessary, to see what is, rather than what she wished was, and then..to take a too. To move forward and keep at it. To improve and keep trying.

That hit very deeply on an identity level and it stuck, it gave a space, that bubble that was able to be expanded into daily life.

Why Bambi sleep and not something else? I think many of us asked that at some point. But whatever for us here, we are here. If it's working for your path then this doll says Rock on sister and if not, maybe some of Doll's story can give a different perspective.

In any case. I'm just glad you're here, as well as me 😘

Doll was aeady able to meditate, intentional practice for 36 hours straight, was able to control brainwaves, the central nervous system, emotional regulation. It was a lifelong tool. It did work. But it was a process, process driven, in order to maintain a calm state.

That's absolutely impressive! And it reminds me of "at least" one person, who would not survive without yoga, and he ended up enlightened (at least, in the kundalini-raise and "the vision" sense). So, for him, it was the destiny. He MUST follow the path of the yoga-masters (I try to avoid the word "guru" at any cost, because, he is not) to survive - in his case it was a severe spine condition.

In other words, "the universe" (replace it with any other suitable word) pushed him "in the right direction". Because he was needed "there"?

It might be your case as well. You MUST use the mind techniques to survive, and, possibly, reach an energetic/spirit/enlightenment height unreachable for "normal/ordinary" people.

I think you nailed it- 100%

That likely saved my life- as it often allowed me to bypass the emotional processing centers and have less seizures, but.. in turn drew me away- further from being able to connect with people.

Can it be related to having the "internal observer", who watches/observes "the events" as from a distance?
Contrary to some beliefs that "emotion control" and "independent observing" kill the emotions, it's actually, the other way around. It's like "body control" does not kill the body. Internal observer does not allow emotions to take control (an absolute loss of emotional control is hysteria).
Also, possibly, this "symptom" protects you from connecting to the people you should not deal with (too close)?
In other words, it makes you filter people much better, much more thoroughly. What correlates to your mentioning of amygdala.

Bambi sleep, because of its deep involvement with identity was able to begin to bridge that gap. In doing so it kicked of that journey of going inward into the darkness to connect everything

Do you think it's because of dissociation, depersonalization, losing the responsibility ... or ... something else?

Absolutely! That observer, the third eye. Bambi sleep explicitly conditions to close it.

Up until the amygdala on the right side was removed (along with the hippocampus), though the amygdala is responsible for fear- pumping out area's hormones into the brain.

That internal's observer best objective view was always shaded with fear, electrochemical activity constantly.

Twenty minutes post off "effortless serenity". Had the best sleep, literally of my life, as the hippocampus is constantly editing memories all the way back to childhood. So every memory of my entire existence up to post op, about 6 weeks ago now is shaded with the primary color of emotion, being fear.

The bubble states allowed for taking bits of what was experienced with having that hypervigilance on overdrive. The sensation of a 5 hour energy shot all the time 24/7, tuned down a bit into everyday. As well as the beginning of learning how to value myself, rather than simply be this weird wonky girl that "we have no idea how you do things, but we want you on our team.. but only for that.. ending up in double binds over and over as yeah. Doll can do some amazing things other people usually don't in a company environment.. but those things are a result of a bizarre process of natural selection. The brain can do all this stuff when it should be dead because of all this other stuff (medically speaking, literally- one of the most studied humans in the world. No idea how I'm alive or how this brain is wired/works).

Not the best combination in a world where success=high performance + 60 hours a week non-stop.

Bambi sleep helped pull things back a bit. And I've slowly built on that. I keep falling. But keep getting back up and trying again. Trying to become better than I was. To live in alignment, with love, light, and service as my core, in every day, every state, every interaction. Being more open, present, a better friend, partner, sister, daughter, person.

[Like Ra]

Absolutely! That observer, the third eye. Bambi sleep explicitly conditions to close it.

I wouldn't call it "the 3d eye", but it's interesting that you are saying, that Bambi shuts the "observer" down.  Probably, "the observer" "works" differently in your case, but in mine, "it" does not produce any mental noise, fear, memories, etc. "It" allows to be/stay/feel in the present and "being aware" (this is how lamas define meditation).  No hypno can shut it down, the "observer" is the only "thing" that remains.
Though, I do understand what you mean.
It's like "dissolving", right?

The bubble states allowed for taking bits of what was experienced with having that hyper vigilance on overdrive.

yes, this.

Not the best combination in a world where success=high performance + 60 hours a week non stop.

Yes ... I live in a country, where there is such a diagnosis as "burn out". It does not exist in US,IN,CN,RU, etc...

My parents brought me up, as I have epilepsy (or had, time Weill write that record)  from cerebral palsy, a stroke before I was born.

My parents brought me up knowing that I was not typical cerebral palsy presentation . If you see me, it  looks like a big of paralysis on the left side.  Otherwise invisible.

They brought me up to figure out how to get what I needed or wanted. Yeah. Almost line for line from one of the files. "If you want to come in for brunch, you have to figure out how to hold your bear and open the door kiddo"- a neighbor at age 4.

That got
Doll diagnosed in 2019 with unrelenting standards schema.

Doll was supposed to spend a few months minimum at a residential treatment facility that year, but they weren't able to handle the epilepsy presentation at the time which kept shutting down the verbal and motor centers of the brain. Todd's Palsy, to keep those centers protected from too many seizures- stops the seizures from damaging those parts of the brain.. but for doll, left her essentially in a frozen state up to 18 hours a day for months.

Also appeared to be catatonia like, and eventually ended up receiving ECT/shock therapy, a known treatment for any cause of Catalonia (at this point it was not known that the cause was seizures, otherwise contraindicated).

Why am I throwing this in? Because when that faculty out of state said they could handle the situation, after doll had to walk away at the top of her career in Business DevOps- forced to choose career or life and roof. Then flown to another state and not four hours after being settled into the residential facility in a rural town being sent to the ER at midnight with no notice to family.

This is when doll's old self let go. When Bambi took over. This night. The trade off was worth it, that's when "the girl who was" let go

As for depersonalization. I think it is more about expectations, standards, accountability. Not having that weight and push. Doll, the girl who was, at that peak was wearing 20 different hats and had just saved a multi million dollar contract renewal with a large fintech company. Essential employee in all but title.

It wasn't enough. The girl who was made Bambi hand in hand in case this happened..again. To deal with it. As Bambi handles  trauma differently. A protector, unintentionally made.

Certainly the depersonalization helped but I believe it was more because of how visceral reality  was. It for things closer to normal, as for this body and brain it's been like just surviving near death experience all the time, for years. The threat detection system has even flipped to on at all times. The distance for or closer subjectivity to neutral. But..still on.

For me, I've been throwing everything I have to get that feeling of serenity outside of either trance or meditation.

Imagine the surprise when waking up from surgery and having effortless serenity, then getting the best sleep of my entire life in the ICU.

This is when doll's old self let go. When Bambi took over. This night. The trade off was worth it, that's when "the girl who was" let go

What happened?  From your description, it looks like a life-saviour DID case, where an alter takes over and "glues things together".
As alters are "usually" created by or during traumatic events, that would correlate with your case.

It is, like thinning the barriers or borrowing. It's right there in the bubble induction which has been around since before 2010. This place can be here anytime you need it. Well, doll definitely needed if and took that into the world.

       

Picture on the left, anyone in the bubble, their magic.

Picture on the right, taking that sphere of protection, that magic into the world and creating space with it, deflecting noise, energy, stimuli. It all emanates from within. It's all there, it's just a matter of channeling that power that is and always has and will be the beautiful magical energy that is you.

It doesn't take a trance to use that, all of these sessions, for Doll, have been about learning how to take what's on left and channel it into life, love, light, alignment, the picture on the right.  That serenity, and now that safety earned sad a result, explicit real world implications of using Bambi sleep to get doll through surgery, saving her.

Now actual safety as the seizures were going to kill, no doubt. Within a couple years, max.

For the first time, doll know what it's like to feel human and subjectively is living for the first time. Finally

The biggest gift of all? The thing that the girl who was wanted most. To know, not just feel, but know age was safe, and yes, secure. As a result of the surgery and this life after, I'm beginning to learn what that part yearned for and why, why it meant so so much to her, and why it's so important for me, to honor that need, those wishes of

The Girl who was, is and is to come
It is important to note this is an older poem,  and it does not reflect this context today.

This doll would not be alive without so many people, protectors, guardians, family and friends that have stepped up time and again over the past several years within the Bambi sleep community to get The Doll where she needs to be.

It should read We.
Thank you, so much for saving me, from myself. For stepping up, when I hurt you so much, I am so sorry, a debt, that I will keep working to pay off. To make right. Thank you. I love you all! Thank you for saving me.

   

I wouldn't call it "the 3d eye", but it's interesting that you are saying, that Bambi shuts the "observer" down.  Probably, "the observer" "works" differently in your case, but in mine, "it" does not produce any mental noise, fear, memories, etc. "It" allows to be/stay/feel in the present and "being aware" (this is how lamas define meditation).  No hypno can shut it down, the "observer" is the only "thing" that remains.

We definitely are on the same page. I tend to use phrases from a lot of different sources. Yes, we are essentially talking of the same thing I believe.

To confirm. It's that sensation of a background  "does this pass the sniff test" that comes with the practice of being aware in altered trance states to monitor the situation and what gets into the mind with a loose grip but firm stance that can be leaned into or backed off of, or kept at the line- holding it?

[Like Ra]

To confirm. It's that sensation of a background "does this pass the sniff test" that comes with the practice of being aware in altered trance states to monitor the situation and what gets into the mind with a loose grip but firm stance that can be leaned into or backed off of, or kept at the line- holding it?

Yyyyes, also. I think I can apply this to my "observer". Yes, it's always in the background. Always checking, making notes 🙂

Back to my "out of band" question. May I republish this conversation in the Bambi thread? I do have some similar experiences in the thread. Not as detailed as yours, so I think it would be very beneficial for everybody.
Or, at least, some parts of the conversation. To keep it from disappearing forever...
Aka "the curse of the infinite scroll".

Of course!

Thanks much!
There's way too much personal stuff, so I can not do that without your permission.

You're most welcome! Thank you for valuing the conversation, it means so much. I really value it as well.

Yeah, that's discord. Ethereal. Thank you for keeping this somewhere! 💕😘

I really appreciate you asking, I am more than happy to have it kept in full. I believe it's important to have these types of stories. I'm in a position to be able to be transparent about my life, my path, and I continue to try to be a resource to both the bambisleep community, and the hypnokink community.

It's (hopefully?) a good story. Haha 🤣

That's, rather, thank YOU! What a life story...

You're most welcome, I'm simply delighted!

[progaamoto]

Hi all! I'd like to briefly share my experience listening to bambi sleep. My apologies in advance that I have not read all 192 pages of this thread, I'm on 160/192 at the moment, but decided to post it anyway, otherwise I might just forget to do it.
So long story short, I've completed the 10-day training and almost finished the 20-days training plan of bambi takeover on bambicloud. When I've just started I was very excited and was quick to purchase some pink sleep mask and pink bdsm kit (like handcuffs, a collar, etc) and been using that as my "uniform". Sometimes I also used tight leggins or idk how it's called and a chastity cage.
Oh, I really appreciated the quality of the audios as for the most part it was a delight to listen to! And the whole idea of me losing control ... it was something I craved for!

I'm definitely not the one to be hypnotized easily and I'm still yet to experience HFO, although I've been listening to various hypno files for years.
One day I had another session listening to bambi sleep and it was the first time when I was hit by a strange scary phenomenon. It was as if I passed out for some time and got back only when Bambi Awakens was playing. This freaked me out and had my heart racing! It was the amnesia people have been talking about... or so I thought.

Next couple of sessions have been completely normal, no memory losses of any kinda, I guess I was too much alert for them to happen. Nevertheless eventually it happened again. But this time I managed to figure out how exactly it worked. Using the common sense and judging by the fact that fuck nothing has happened while I "passed out" the conclusion came natural to me. I simply fell asleep OUT OF BOREDOM!

Don't get me wrong, I still consider the files very good.  But it really does not matter how good is the file if you're listening to the same "Bambi named and drained" for 20th time. At this point you simply are too familiar with the file and can anticipate every next word or whatever. No wonder people fall asleep in that situation. And this also explains so-called "relapsing": people just tend to return to the good content after it isn't so vivid in their memory anymore.

Regarding the hypno part, I did not notice any mind-altering changes... sadly. The "bambi cockslut" file is great, I was really close to reaching HFO. But again, I can say the same about many kinkyshibby files too. So no breakthrough for me.  That being said, I decided to conclude my bambi sleep experiment due to lack of progress and I can't listen to the same files anymore since I become bored.