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There's something I very much find sexy in these files, and it's the emphasis on restrictions and control Bambi has in the old self. OS loves knowing they're being fucked with.
(07 Nov 2023, 04:36 )bellmar Wrote: [ -> ]The diet file is about half old self-abuse, and half lay off the junk food, and find reasons to be active. I think as long as you have the idea in your head that Bambi's puppet strings want to keep you from pigging out on twinkies and doughnuts you're good to go.  I recommended listening to them just so that when they are referenced in the other files you're not pulled out of trance by a "WTF is she talking about" moment.  Same with Bambi uniform inspection, it helps to understand that Bambi has a mental image of herself as a bound and boxed dolly, and that's kind of her hypnosis mind space, sort of where she goes when she is told to zip up.  

I had intended insomnia_collared to be more of a short file, like 5-6 minutes that just adds an optional component to Bambi's nite nite uniform, but as always I went overboard.  Much like the diet file, as long as you understand that Bambi has a separate physical "nite nite uniform", you're likely good to go, but if you're in for a penny on insomnia collared, you may as well be in for the pound and have nightly listening enforced.  The conditioning isn't really specified, the files you listen to nightly don't need to be one of mine, I did an edit of Platinum Puppets fake trigger removal file that I like in my playlists, as well as a few of the original files,

That makes a lot of sense, I'll definitely be listening to all the other files, it was only the diet file that didn't personally appeal. Both insomnia and insomnia_collared have very much piqued my interest so definitely in for a pound there. And I love the concept to get round Bambi's bimbo protection, I had previously rationalised any dumbing down mentions as temporary dumbing down/quieting of thoughts that allowed more processing power to be diverted to the subconscious & conditioning, but your idea is much better.

Just to make sure I've got it set the 'logical' order of your main files are:

Bambi uniform inspection > Bambi diet + Bambi pleasure lock > Bambi insomnia > Bambi insomnia collared

Then Bambi Stuck is a side branch (as it were) dedicated to self bondage that builds on Bambi uniform inspection.
Bambi Puppetstrings essentailly strenghthens all the above files by making the puppetstrings stronger.

Sorry I always think in maps as it were, I've been meaning to make a map of the original Bambi files as to which themes, triggers and ideas are built on in which files and which files you should listen to before others; but any time I've tried I seem to get distracted and start trancing (that or end up with a massive confusing spiders web as its all so interlinked haha). Anyway sorry for the rambling & all the questions.
(06 Nov 2023, 15:35 )bellmar Wrote: [ -> ]
(06 Nov 2023, 05:56 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]
(04 Mar 2023, 02:33 )bellmar Wrote: [ -> ]03 Bimbo Fuckpuppet Oblivion_Bell_edit.mp3 (Size: 44.77 MB )

New to this blog 🙃.
Does the fuckpuppet oblivion file shared here contain all the triggers and is same as original (but only without dumbing down words)? And is the download like that says File name and then MKIII.mp3, same as the file that is playable? And last question: which of these files can I listen if I haven't done the expert files? (The cited message is one of the first ones on this thread, so please go there to understand my questions.

the fuckpuppet oblivion bell edit file is the same as the original but with the dumbing down, and the false memories cut out,  nothing is added to it.  the files that say MKIII are the most current versions of the main files, the older versions have been removed and are not available for download.  

My files are not stand alone, at least a basic familiarity with bambi sleep original files are needed or they will not make sense.  From the original files I recommend training with bimbo protection,  amnesia, addiction, ziplocked, oblivion, and total life control doll.  My files pull heavily from the ideas and triggers in those more than anything else.

Bambi_Insomnia and insomnia_collared I would consider more for advanced Bambi's, as in Bambi's who have went deep down the Bambi rabbit hole, and are committed to changes.  The folks who aren't just experimenting or treating Bambi as a hobby.  They are intended to be permanent or make other files permanent.  Think curse files, they self reinforce and are intended to grow stronger when the listener tries to get them out of their heads or deny the effects.   

Having said that all hypnosis is self hypnosis, and you are the only one responsible for the direction of your own life.  My files assume that the listener wants to have some fun as Bambi and feel submissive and controlled.
I am not experimenting or just having a trial. Been doing the files on and off for months (though results were not as strong as expected). Also, I didn't find the original post for Bambi_Insomnia. I checked everywhere. I just want to read the description of this file.
(08 Nov 2023, 00:42 )hypnoticneed Wrote: [ -> ]
(07 Nov 2023, 04:36 )bellmar Wrote: [ -> ]The diet file is about half old self-abuse, and half lay off the junk food, and find reasons to be active. I think as long as you have the idea in your head that Bambi's puppet strings want to keep you from pigging out on twinkies and doughnuts you're good to go.  I recommended listening to them just so that when they are referenced in the other files you're not pulled out of trance by a "WTF is she talking about" moment.  Same with Bambi uniform inspection, it helps to understand that Bambi has a mental image of herself as a bound and boxed dolly, and that's kind of her hypnosis mind space, sort of where she goes when she is told to zip up.  

I had intended insomnia_collared to be more of a short file, like 5-6 minutes that just adds an optional component to Bambi's nite nite uniform, but as always I went overboard.  Much like the diet file, as long as you understand that Bambi has a separate physical "nite nite uniform", you're likely good to go, but if you're in for a penny on insomnia collared, you may as well be in for the pound and have nightly listening enforced.  The conditioning isn't really specified, the files you listen to nightly don't need to be one of mine, I did an edit of Platinum Puppets fake trigger removal file that I like in my playlists, as well as a few of the original files,

That makes a lot of sense, I'll definitely be listening to all the other files, it was only the diet file that didn't personally appeal. Both insomnia and insomnia_collared have very much piqued my interest so definitely in for a pound there. And I love the concept to get round Bambi's bimbo protection, I had previously rationalised any dumbing down mentions as temporary dumbing down/quieting of thoughts that allowed more processing power to be diverted to the subconscious & conditioning, but your idea is much better.

Just to make sure I've got it set the 'logical' order of your main files are:

Bambi uniform inspection > Bambi diet + Bambi pleasure lock > Bambi insomnia > Bambi insomnia collared

Then Bambi Stuck is a side branch (as it were) dedicated to self bondage that builds on Bambi uniform inspection.
Bambi Puppetstrings essentailly strenghthens all the above files by making the puppetstrings stronger.

Sorry I always think in maps as it were, I've been meaning to make a map of the original Bambi files as to which themes, triggers and ideas are built on in which files and which files you should listen to before others; but any time I've tried I seem to get distracted and start trancing (that or end up with a massive confusing spiders web as its all so interlinked haha). Anyway sorry for the rambling & all the questions.
It would be a nice idea to make a map and share it. Maybe I could help since I think I have a pretty good understanding of the files and what they do and when you should do what files. I would have written much more but the saxy girl is making it hard to think (completed a 2hr session just 2 minutes ago 😁🙈🙃). 

I did try the insomnia_collared file and though I don't really like the technique for choice of voice used and pace, I did like the conditioning and ideas in it. I haven't done any other bellmar's files and I don't think it is that big of a deal since there don't seem to be triggers in it that would need pre-requisite training from other bellmar's files. However, you need training at least till advance files in original files (obvious but important, also, not much triggers used from expert files, which is good for intermediate people who haven't done high level files).
(08 Nov 2023, 08:26 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]I did try the insomnia_collared file and though I don't really like the technique for choice of voice used and pace

Speaking of the pace, can you try this one:

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No need to listen to the whole file, start with the first minutes to get the idea of the tempo.
(08 Nov 2023, 12:01 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(08 Nov 2023, 08:26 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]I did try the insomnia_collared file and though I don't really like the technique for choice of voice used and pace

Speaking of the pace, can you try this one:



No need to listen to the whole file, start with the first minutes to get the idea of the tempo.

Yes, the pace is much better in this one. Still, it is not dynamic like in original files; one of the reasons the original files are so powerfully influential is because of the natural conversation tone in most of the files and sometimes erotic variations. 

A big, huge problem with with voice selection is that in original Bambi files the girly babyish high pitched voice is mostly used for replacing the listener's reaction (for example saying "yes", saying/repeating affirmations of the narrator in first person diction, giggling when the narrator asks to (but not always as sometimes the lister is expected to verbally react when he/she would be deep in trance)). In bellmar's files, he (his bio I think says use "he") uses this voice as narrator, leading voice. It creates confusion and inconsistency with the original files, which in turn results in reduced effectiveness of both sets of files. 

Also, the bambi stuck file is about self--bondage right? I believe it is (correct me if I am wrong) and I don't think I should get into that right now. I don't have enough rope art knowledge or other knowledge that a dom would have, which is an implied pre requisite for this because to act upon the triggers and conditioning, you need to have related info or it will be like a system error but in the brain and lead to confusion. Also, I don't have time to indulge in self-bondage, I am a student and I have much more than enough things going on.
(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]it is not dynamic like in original files
Mmm.. not sure what you mean under dynamics here.

(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]A big, huge problem with voice selection is that in original Bambi files
I think the idea behind both Platinum and Bellmar's series is to use new voices, which are supposed to be more realistic, more human-like with more emotions.

(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]the girly babyish high pitched voice is mostly used for replacing the listener's reaction . . . It creates confusion and inconsistency with the original files,
From one point of view, you are right - if we want to continue the same idea as the original series, and assume, that the voices have become triggers, yes, this is how it should be done.

But, if the creators decide to use different voices, the "old roles" make no sense anymore.

And speaking of voices, personally, I have much more issues with the Platinum voice.

(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have enough rope art knowledge or other knowledge that a dom would have
The subject of the files is a bit different, then pure rope-bondage. "Bondage" has many forms. Hypnotic state, when you are "forced" to do something (basically, the reason, why erotic hypnosis is so popular) is also a form of bondage. When you are "bound" to listen does not literally mean, that you have to be bound with ropes, right? Just like "home-bound". If in doubts, please read the script in the first post.
(09 Nov 2023, 00:12 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]it is not dynamic like in original files
Mmm.. not sure what you mean under dynamics here.

The voice in the bellmar's files (based on the two-three files I checked) have the same pace throughout the file, whereas, in original files, the pace is varying and has more of an authoritative conversational tone.

(09 Nov 2023, 00:12 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]A big, huge problem with voice selection is that in original Bambi files

I think the idea behind both Platinum and Bellmar's series is to use new voices, which are supposed to be more realistic, more human-like with more emotions.

(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]the girly babyish high pitched voice is mostly used for replacing the listener's reaction . . . It creates confusion and inconsistency with the original files,

From one point of view, you are right - if we want to continue the same idea as the original series, and assume, that the voices have become triggers, yes, this is how it should be done.

But, if the creators decide to use different voices, the "old roles" make no sense anymore.

And speaking of voices, personally, I have much more issues with the Platinum voice.

It is less about roles and more about how people internalize influences, which in turn form basis of more thoughts. And because Bambis are conditioned to change the voice of their inner monologue to that particular voice, changing the role of the voice would create inconsistency (as I mentioned) and it would mess up SCM over time, especially if these files are mixed with original files. It would have been fine if a different voice was chosen. 

Also, I don't know the "platinum voice"; yet to try out 1 or 2 files of mental makeover (and 1 other group of files) and the community made platinum blonde series on BambiCloud. 

(09 Nov 2023, 00:12 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]
(08 Nov 2023, 21:07 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have enough rope art knowledge or other knowledge that a dom would have
The subject of the files is a bit different, then pure rope-bondage. "Bondage" has many forms. Hypnotic state, when you are "forced" to do something (basically, the reason, why erotic hypnosis is so popular) is also a form of bondage. When you are "bound" to listen does not literally mean, that you have to be bound with ropes, right? Just like "home-bound". If in doubts, please read the script in the first post.

I was just giving example of a type of bondage. I know there are many types. I will check out the file script (which is never my first preference and I try to rely on descriptions because knowing the words in a file before a session makes it difficult to just forget the words when the session is over, which is what the listener is commanded to do).
(09 Nov 2023, 01:19 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]in original files, the pace is varying and has more of an authoritative conversational tone.
I would disagree here. In the original files, the standard Ivonna/Sally voices are used with no change in tempo.

(09 Nov 2023, 01:19 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]And because Bambis are conditioned to change the voice of their inner monologue to that particular voice, changing the role of the voice would create inconsistency (as I mentioned) and it would mess up SCM over time
Again, I agree here, as I prefer the original voices.

(09 Nov 2023, 01:19 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]It would have been fine if a different voice was chosen. 
What do you mean here? The chosen voices are different.

(09 Nov 2023, 01:19 )yourscrumptiousdreamofacookie Wrote: [ -> ]Also, I don't know the "platinum voice"; yet to try out 1 or 2 files of mental makeover (and 1 other group of files) and the community made platinum blonde series on BambiCloud. 
I meant the Platinum Puppets series: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...um-Puppets
To my mind it isn't a narrator and a responder replacing my inner monologue, it's me listening in on a conversation.  I was careful to make sure Bambi was never addressed directly, I'm sure I may have missed one here or there, but on the whole the listener could think the conversation was About Bambi, without her being present.  Kind of like a child listening in on its parents talking about it.

I think maybe my choice of the Hanna voice, the one that sounds (to me) as the responder voice in the original files may have been a mistake.   I really liked the back and forth in the ziplocked and total life control doll, or I would have kept it one voice.  That back and forth kept me more engaged and held my focus better.  Being a complete absent minded scatterbrain I need all the focus help I can get.

For the pacing, there is a gap between every voice change that I manually cut, as the length of the pause varies here and there it might be creating what is being perceived as dynamic pacing.  The murfAI voices are set on default (mostly) and per likera's suggestion I changed the tempo of the main tracks to -10%.  so as to not affect the 4hrz beats.

Bell (yes I identify as male fun story behind the online name)
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