(03 Dec 2024, 23:18 )Like Ra Wrote: This "internal riot against"
(03 Dec 2024, 23:18 )Like Ra Wrote: Another way how it might work.
Also... Since, most likely, we all have listened to a helluva various sissy hypno, including the ones with "resisting only makes the changes happen faster and stronger" suggestions. I bet, there are changes we all do want to happen, so that suggestion does not trigger. But... as soon as you find something to wholeheartedly resist against, all suggestions might suddenly manifest with an increasing rate.
I think this is what happened once, while I was listening to Bambi Oblivion. I was (and still am) STRONLY against "dumbing down and memory erasure", I was about to turn the player off, but could not, and suddenly, I was shuttered with quite a HFO. Exactly, as was told: Resistance? "Bambi Freeze! Cum and Collapse!"
(03 Dec 2024, 23:18 )Like Ra Wrote: This "internal riot against"
(03 Dec 2024, 23:18 )Like Ra Wrote: Another way how it might work.
Also... Since, most likely, we all have listened to a helluva various sissy hypno, including the ones with "resisting only makes the changes happen faster and stronger" suggestions. I bet, there are changes we all do want to happen, so that suggestion does not trigger. But... as soon as you find something to wholeheartedly resist against, all suggestions might suddenly manifest with an increasing rate.
I think this is what happened once, while I was listening to Bambi Oblivion. I was (and still am) STRONLY against "dumbing down and memory erasure", I was about to turn the player off, but could not, and suddenly, I was shuttered with quite a HFO. Exactly, as was told: Resistance? "Bambi Freeze! Cum and Collapse!"
What do you think?
I've definitely been here, both with other files that hit me when I wasn't expecting them, and especially when I've been deep into a run of bambi sessions. There are suggestions in the early files for feeling overwhelmed and finding yourself complying without realising, and more than once I've immediately gone from thinking, "Maybe I should stop", to being unable to keep track of where I am in the file or what part I was concerned about, noticing how hard it is to move, how good I feel, etc. And then before I know it, I've ended up seeing the programming session through to the end. It's only later that I register the fact that I actively had a response to the thought of stopping.
I think you're definitely right that there are suggestions which manifest differently than how we might initially expect, particularly where they're couched in amongst other suggestions we're intended to disregard, like in your NLP example.
06 Dec 2024, 00:49 (This post was last modified: 06 Dec 2024, 00:53 by Shankinbro.)
(05 Dec 2024, 22:57 )Like Ra Wrote:
(05 Dec 2024, 22:38 )Shankinbro Wrote: These files are a ton of fun and well made
Any results? Or ... just a fap-material?
Idk about results but I’ve had some clarity about my fetishes from this lesser known creator, Bia. I’ve recognized that I switch to being a “straight bottom”, and that felt liberating to me. It helped make other Hypnos from mindflayer and samanthasez easier to accept.
Check out GoldStarStraightBottom after listening to audio about relationships. I think it gives some good background to her philosophy.
She’s a weaker hypnotist but a fun narrator and deserves way more popularity. I really liked her perspective that cumming is not a goal for the listener and their job is just to be a good bottom.
MindflayerX seems to start out with the whole “you’re not good enough let’s make you a bottom cause that’s all you can be.”, whereas Bia is all about “you’re a bottom. Let’s make you the best damn one you can be.”
One is more empowering than the other. Are there more content creators that take the empowering route?
12 Dec 2024, 17:53 (This post was last modified: 12 Dec 2024, 20:18 by Iniga.)
(03 Dec 2024, 23:18 )Like Ra Wrote:
(30 Nov 2024, 14:17 )Iniga Wrote: "Dared" to, listened.
#metoo 😉
For those, who did not dare, I added an unedited auto-transcription.
(30 Nov 2024, 14:17 )Iniga Wrote: the whole file is about her kinks, not the desires and wishes of the listener.
Errmm... I really doubt it. It's just an audio-file. "She" does not know who is listening and why. There are kinksters who experience pleasure from being used for someone else's pleasure, or from being forcefully feminized (e.g. me).
(30 Nov 2024, 14:17 )Iniga Wrote: this file is just a bad idea.
Like most of the erotic hypno-files, especially heavily "sissy-themed".
(30 Nov 2024, 14:17 )Iniga Wrote: Full of the usual emasculation, female stereotypes, subservience to men and humorously she states the listener will have no other choice than to have sex with men afterwards since there will be no other options? WTF? Huh?!?
On one hand, I fully agree with you here. All those "from now on, you will only..." might sound ridiculous, indeed.
OTOH... several thoughts here.
This "internal riot against" might be a perfect trigger for a strong association. When the related events happen, that association might automatically triggered, creating anxiety, uneasyness, excitement, nervousity. And you might started thinking, that it's happening, the hypnosis is working, and this is how it begins to work indeed,
Another way how it might work. There is a psychological (NLP) technique, where you ask for several things (some of them are way too complex, expensive, unethical, ridiculous, weird, etc), so the person you ask happily do the easiest task and refusing the rest. And this is exactly what you want, because if you asked for only the things you need, the person could refuse, but now he/she has a choice. Same here. You have a list of tasks:
- behave like a woman
- dress like a woman
- look like a woman
- wear makeup
- speak like a woman
- take hormones
- get breast implants
- chop you privates off
You might vocally refuse the last 2-3 options, but the rest is getting through your consciousness as much less severe, and even OK in comparison to those 2-3. And your "normality" level suddenly shifts. A couple of months-years of brainwashing, and the normality level shifts again, leaving only the last two as "no way". And suddenly you realise that you have changed quite dramatically.
I wrote a long reply a couple of days ago, but aborted it 🤷🏻♀️ .. so a short version
First off, thank you for the transcript, even when listening/re-listening I can see I filtered out (or my mind just wandered) a lot of things and the parts I did not like I did not filter, and they really stood out.
"There are kinksters who experience pleasure from being used for someone else's pleasure"
I have no issues with that, completely valid and I also enjoy that greatly with the right people.
You may be right & she (or whoever wrote the script) is just using NLP... exactly what makes "2-anal-pig-brainwashing overload" so damn effective .... I have no wish to have the escalation at the end of the "anal-pig" file of "a leg above the knee" inside of me (aside from, for most of humankind at least, anatomically a bit out of bounds), but it does make the suggestions at the beginning of the file very vanilla. It certainly does inspire me to reach for a much larger toy than I might otherwise have, if I am playing along while listening to the file...
I fortunately do not suffer greatly from dysphoria, for me mainly just body hair, but I have friends who do suffer greatly. So the whole "transforming in such a powerful way for me, transitioning for me, not because you want to, not because you're trans" still rubs me the wrong way.
I'm sure most people will filter it, but not all people out there - or some even here - do & get very immersed in such files. It is a path of no return I would not wish anyone to follow for someone else and not coming from their own needs and innermost desires... and caused my very negative knee jerk reaction to it.
"But... as soon as you find something to wholeheartedly resist against, all suggestions might suddenly manifest with an increasing rate."
"What do you think?"
Sounds right... though here the suggestions for SRS didn't trigger me or cause a sense of resistance directly, the possible consequences for others who do not desire or do not require this did.
Personally, I certainly would not mind and would enjoy having more (natural) breast growth, wider hips, a more pleasing body fat distribution etc, such suggestions are not triggers for me. I would very much prefer not to have to deal with either facial or body hair. The suggestion of bottom surgery also does not trigger or distress me, but I also do not find that important or necessary for myself. I am what is now called "Non Binary", between the poles. I fortunately do not have bottom dysphoria and am able to get along with and appreciate that part of me. Had my primary characteristics turned out the other way around, the same would be true. But I'm drifting pretty far off topic for this thread now....
Umm... Do emg's files really really work on their own? I have by this time done a a couple of emg's and many other strong ones, and I do have decent amount of understanding about hypno. Usually most of emg's files seem to have just 1 track/layer and heavily relies on simply building an internal belief while in trance using direct language. Now that compared to hypnosis by say, kei, or bambi sleep or lilith or someone who is known to make heavy duty tracks, is pretty ineffective I think. Sure, his files feel good, I don't deny that, but I feel like that is all there is to them with few exceptions.
Hi btw, I came back to this platform after a long time. But I am preoccupied so I may not be able reply to all the people who responded to my entries for some more time.
Following the availability of the script for CDForcedToCrossDress some while ago I have created a version with an AI generated female voice and merged it with Subliminal Booster. I find EMG's voice does nothing for me. Be interested in anyone trying it.
CDForcedToCrossDress - FemaleVoice.mp3 (Size: 23.36 MB )