General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread

[Zooy]

One day I was at Schiphol airport to pick up my wife. Out came a bunch of extremely tall people. It turned out that was the Dutch volleybal team. Probably comparable to a top American basketbal team.

[HeatherHather]

Down here everyone taller just sees me a sex Smurf.

Oh, c'mon... Ever been to NL? 🤣

Yes! i just wasn't a girl back then 😉

The average Dutch only grew up since then - the tallest nation in the world.

Forever bitter the Netherlands doesn't have any 'right to return' like some European countries... I'm almost entirely ethnically Dutch and would emigrate in a heart beat.

[cbshackle]

Down here everyone taller just sees me a sex Smurf.

Oh, c'mon... Ever been to NL? 🤣

Yes! i just wasn't a girl back then 😉

The average Dutch only grew up since then - the tallest nation in the world.

I belong the The Tall Society which is for women 5'10" (177cm) and taller. I am 6'5" (196cm) tall and I was the first trans woman that joined. (There are only 3 or 4 that I know of.) Anyway the founder is a close friend and she is cis-gender, my height and from the Netherlands. In the NYC meetups where I used to live, out of 38 women, with me being the only transgender woman, there were 5 or 6 woman as tall or taller than me. The tallest was 6'8" (203cm) tall.

One of the critical things for me when I transitioned and being so tall, was working on my voice. I am gender female on the phone now, but it did take some work to get there. Phones are more difficult with the lower frequency response they have and VOiP made it worse in the beginning, but now HD Voice helps it.

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Title: Induced Submissive Behavior and Gender Dysphoria in Cisgender Males: A Clinical Exploration

Abstract: This study explores the psychological, pharmacological, and behavioral methods employed in inducing hypersubmissive behavior and gender dysphoria in cisgender male subjects. The study draws from theoretical frameworks in psychosexual development, behavioral conditioning, and neuropharmacology to examine the mechanisms through which gender identity and submissive traits can be modified. The methodology is based on in-depth interviews with individuals engaged in consensual dominant-submissive relationships, supplemented by a review of relevant literature on the psychological manipulation of identity and behavior.

Introduction:

The modification of gender identity and submissive behavior in cisgender males has been a topic of both academic and clinical interest, particularly within the fields of psychosexual development and behavioral psychology. While role reversal and power dynamics in relationships have been extensively studied, there remains limited research on the deliberate induction of hypersubmissive behavior and gender dysphoria through a combination of psychological, pharmacological, and behavioral interventions. This study aims to bridge this gap by examining case studies and reviewing the existing literature on the topic.

Literature Review:

1. Psychosexual Development and Gender Dysphoria:
   Research on psychosexual development suggests that gender identity is formed through a complex interplay of biological, psychological, and social factors (Zucker et al., 2012). Gender dysphoria, as defined by the DSM-5, involves a marked incongruence between an individual's experienced gender and assigned sex at birth (American Psychiatric Association, 2013). Studies have shown that gender identity can be influenced by external factors such as social conditioning and psychological interventions (Bockting et al., 2013).
2. Behavioral Conditioning and Submission:
   Behavioral conditioning, particularly operant conditioning, has been widely used in psychological research to modify behavior (Skinner, 1953). In the context of submissive behavior, research has shown that reinforcement and punishment can be effectively used to alter dominant or submissive traits in individuals (Baumeister & Vohs, 2004). Additionally, studies on BDSM dynamics have demonstrated that consensual power exchange can lead to profound psychological changes in participants (Connolly, 2006).
3. Neuropharmacology and Identity Modification:
   The role of neuropharmacology in altering behavior and identity has been explored in various studies, particularly in the context of psychiatric treatment (Kring & Johnson, 2018). Pharmacological agents such as SSRIs, benzodiazepines, and antipsychotics have been used to treat a range of psychological disorders, and their effects on personality and identity are well-documented (Stahl, 2013). Research has also explored the use of psychoactive substances in altering perception and identity, with mixed results (Nichols, 2016).

Methodology:

The study employed a mixed-methods approach, combining qualitative interviews with a review of existing literature. Participants were recruited from online communities and clinics specializing in BDSM dynamics and gender identity issues. All participants provided informed consent and were assured of confidentiality. The interviews focused on the psychological and behavioral interventions used in their relationships, with a particular emphasis on the induction of submissive behavior and gender dysphoria.

Case Study 1: The Role of Behavioral Conditioning in Inducing Submissive Behavior

Participant A is a 32-year-old cisgender male who has been involved in a consensual dominant-submissive relationship for five years. The subject reported that his partner, a dominant female, employed a range of behavioral conditioning techniques to induce submissive behavior. These techniques included positive reinforcement through sexual rewards and negative reinforcement through the withholding of affection.

Conditioning Techniques:

• Positive Reinforcement: The subject was rewarded with sexual favors and emotional intimacy for displaying submissive behaviors, such as following orders, performing domestic tasks, and adhering to strict behavioral protocols.
  
• Negative Reinforcement: The subject reported that failure to comply with the dominant partner’s expectations resulted in the temporary withdrawal of emotional support and affection, which served as a powerful motivator for behavior change.
  

The subject also reported the use of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) techniques to reinforce submissive tendencies. These techniques included guided visualization exercises and affirmations that focused on the subject’s increasing identification with submissive traits.

Case Study 2: The Use of Pharmacological Interventions in Modifying Gender Identity

Participant B is a 29-year-old cisgender male who developed gender dysphoria as a result of pharmacological and psychological interventions administered by his dominant partner. The subject was initially recruited based on his interest in exploring non-traditional gender roles.

Pharmacological Interventions:

• Benzodiazepines: The subject was administered low doses of benzodiazepines (e.g., Diazepam) to reduce anxiety and increase suggestibility during conditioning sessions. This pharmacological intervention facilitated the subject’s openness to exploring gender dysphoria and cross-gender identification.
  
• Hormonal Therapy: The subject voluntarily underwent hormone replacement therapy (HRT) as part of his exploration of gender identity. The administration of estrogen resulted in the development of secondary female sexual characteristics, which further reinforced the subject’s gender dysphoria.
  

Psychological Techniques:

The subject’s partner employed a combination of hypnosis and NLP to facilitate the transition from a traditional male gender identity to one more aligned with feminine traits. Hypnotherapy sessions focused on visualizing the subject’s new gender identity and reinforcing the emotional satisfaction derived from fulfilling this role.

Results:

Both case studies demonstrated that behavioral conditioning, combined with psychological and pharmacological interventions, can result in significant changes in submissive behavior and gender identity in cisgender males. The subjects reported high levels of satisfaction with their transformed identities, although long-term psychological effects were not assessed.

Discussion:

The findings of this study suggest that submissive behavior and gender identity can be significantly influenced by external interventions, particularly within the context of consensual BDSM dynamics. While the results are consistent with existing literature on behavioral conditioning and psychosexual development, the ethical implications of such interventions warrant careful consideration.

Ethical Considerations:

The ethical implications of inducing submissive behavior and gender dysphoria through external interventions are significant. Informed consent, ongoing psychological support, and the voluntary nature of these interventions are crucial in ensuring that such practices do not result in harm. Further research is needed to explore the long-term psychological effects of these interventions and to develop ethical guidelines for their use.

Conclusion:

This study provides a preliminary exploration of the methods used to induce submissive behavior and gender dysphoria in cisgender males. The findings suggest that a combination of behavioral, psychological, and pharmacological interventions can result in significant changes in identity and behavior. However, the ethical implications of these practices must be carefully considered, and further research is needed to fully understand their long-term effects.

References:

• American Psychiatric Association. (2013). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). American Psychiatric Publishing.
  
• Baumeister, R. F., & Vohs, K. D. (2004). Handbook of Self-Regulation: Research, Theory, and Applications. The Guilford Press.
  
• Bockting, W. O., Knudson, G., & Goldberg, J. M. (2013). Counseling and mental health care of transgender adults and loved ones. International Journal of Transgenderism, 14(3), 163-184.
  
• Connolly, P. H. (2006). Psychological functioning of bondage/domination/sado-masochism (BDSM) practitioners. Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality, 18(1), 79-120.
  
• Kring, A. M., & Johnson, S. L. (2018). Abnormal Psychology: The Science and Treatment of Psychological Disorders (14th ed.). John Wiley & Sons.
  
• Nichols, D. E. (2016). Psychedelics. Pharmacological Reviews, 68(2), 264-355.
  
• Skinner, B. F. (1953). Science and Human Behavior. Macmillan.
  
• Stahl, S. M. (2013). Stahl’s Essential Psychopharmacology: Neuroscientific Basis and Practical Applications (4th ed.). Cambridge University Press.
  
• Zucker, K. J., Lawrence, A. A., & Kreukels, B. P. (2012). Gender Dysphoria in Adults. Annual Review of Clinical Psychology, 8, 271-297.
  

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Title: Induced Submissive Behavior and Gender Dysphoria in Cisgender Males: A Clinical Exploration

Is there a link to this?

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Title: Induced Submissive Behavior and Gender Dysphoria in Cisgender Males: A Clinical Exploration

Is there a link to this?

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Induc...sphoria%22

[melindahun]

I know that eroticism-induced conditioning works. This is a conditioning where you associate sexual arousal, lust and eventually climaxing with something you were indifferent to, be it a dress-up, a situation or a specific body type. If you see it next time, you become aroused because of it.

Couples do it in their entire life: they condition themselves to each others' body, which changes over the decades, yet, they relearn to get excited for them. I am convinced that most of the fetishistic philias are just this kind of conditioning.

I have experimented with multiple techniques, and a few of them work for me too. Usually getting excited to porn, preparing mantras towards my change that I say to myself, and make sure that when I climax, I use the distant goals as images to look at. To a smaller extent it also works for training negative emotions too. Recently I got even better result with AI-generated images, but regular porn without audio works in many context.

At this point I have conditioned myself to like cock and some male body too. I can imagine myself that I could condition myself to completely fall in love with men, or just become an extreme fetishist towards most object of my choice (given enough time).

However, now that my lifelong dream of transitioning to a woman's lifestyle is within arm's reach, that I can see myself that I could force myself into it, I got cold feet. I'm in my early 40s, lifelong crossdresser, consumer of hypno, porn and sissy content. Married for most of my life, no children. Solid job and good status in my community, though it is extremely homo- and transphobic. If I were to transition, I would get divorced and move.

I'd like to chat with people who would encourage me to go ahead with this. Maybe even convince me to condition myself to a specific thing or two.

Aside: I'm also afraid to use my phone number, email or even my home IP to register for chat or dating services. Tor-enabled (or based) solutions without such requirements would work best (retroshare maybe if anybody is interested).

Any advice, comment or question in any part of this?

[Angela_Angora]

Did you notice, that most feminization/TV/TG/CD motivators picture real pretty girls, while demotivators feature crossdressed men (e.g. https://www.likera.com/blog/wp/archives/15131)? Isn't it a bit counterintuitive? Or do the motivators work as demotivators, because the goal is clearly not achievable?

For me the CD and sissy caption images are only attractive and a turn-on if the image is of a pretty woman.  

The same goes for T-girl and SheMale porn.  The person has to look passable for me to be excited by it.  That's probably why I fell hard for futanari stuff.  When I discovered "Innocent Dickgirls" material, I was in heaven.  Same for the European erotic graphic novels by Baldazzini (Casa Howhard series).  If the characters in these images looked like guys, I would've had no interest whatsoever.

As for myself, I don't have a desire to actually try to look like a biological female in the public sphere, or transition for permanent physical changes, etc.  

It's mainly a powerful kink that really excites me to think of myself as a girl, dress up, listen/watch to femdom forced-feminization material, and which leads to an intense orgasm.  Then the clothes go into the closet until the urge arises again.  

If you saw me on the street, you'd never think I was into feminization stuff, getting off on being called a "Good Girl" by a dominant female.   My naughty secret...

[Like Ra]

Recently, I've read an interview with a doctor, who claimed the following:

men + estrogen or women + testosterone = abdominal fat is accumulating
men + testosterone or women + estrogen = abdominal fat is reducing

In other words, HRT is a paved road to obesity?

[vanessa_fetish]

Recently, I've read an interview with a doctor, who claimed the following:

men + estrogen or women + testosterone = abdominal fat is accumulating
men + testosterone or women + estrogen = abdominal fat is reducing

In other words, HRT is a paved road to obesity?

not necessarily. The hormones basically redistribute fat in the body, ie estrogen gives a male body wider hips, breasts, etc, and testosterone gives a female body a more "stocky" form. 

I ended up weighing less after starting estrogen, just that the fat accumulated in the needed areas (and reduced in others). 

Results may vary, of course.