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General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread
(23 Feb 2023, 02:45 )Tinker D Wrote: I guess the point I was trying to make is that a man can not get another man pregnant. Even if that man went through hormone therapy and sexual reassignment surgery, he is still a man with a mutilated penis.

Same as a female doing the same thing. A female can not get another female pregnant even if she had a penis stitch between her legs. I kind of doubt she could ever get a hard on unless she had an air pump or something to get an erection.

Trans Men  (F to M) can get pregnant. Beeing able to be pregnant or impregnating isnt connected to beeing either M or F. Plenty of cis (aka not -trans) people not able to breed or be bred
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(14 Feb 2018, 23:21 )Like Ra Wrote: Seriously, trying to find something "truly feminine" I started thread Femininity. It turned out, that it's very difficult to divide feminine from masculine, IF you move the "social intervention" aside.

Pink is neither feminine, nor masculine (over the years it changed), long hair is neither feminine, nor masculine, dresses were worn by both boys and girls, high heels (not stilettos, of course) were "male prerogative", same goes for stockings, leggings, etc...  Painted faces? All genders used to paint faces. Same goes for piercing, tattoo, bijouterie and jewellery.

That leaves some anatomical differences, chromosomes and reproductive roles... The rest is "society". In other words the intrasexual differences are more pronounced, than intersexual.  Or ... do I miss anything?

DISCLAIMER: this is not to start a holy war. I'm trying to understand this logically with no propaganda from any side.
sry if it has been answered before but the brain plays an important part as well in gender  (well you could still count that to be anatomical) or there wouldnt be things like gender dysphoria.
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(23 Feb 2023, 02:45 )Tinker D Wrote: I guess the point I was trying to make is that a man can not get another man pregnant. Even if that man went through hormone therapy and sexual reassignment surgery, he is still a man with a mutilated penis.

Same as a female doing the same thing. A female can not get another female pregnant even if she had a penis stitch between her legs. I kind of doubt she could ever get a hard on unless she had an air pump or something to get an erection.

i heard there is some sort of "button" or "switch" with neo-penises (as opposed to neo-vaginas) where you can get some sort of hard on.
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Are you talking about a push on / push off switch or a Rocker switch ?
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Dunno. i just heard that info of a trans man. sounds pretty funny and practical for the guys xd
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Nice one:

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This is how it's getting done: facial feminization surgery (FFS):

Forehead Feminization in 3D FFS SURGERY


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHbvCcmqSTA


Adam´s Apple Reduction / Trachea Shave feminization in 3D


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFwuzwNMQQ


Forehead Feminization with Simultaneous Hair Transplants


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maOYP_ozhXs


JAWContour® | 3D Precision in Jaw and Chin Feminization Surgery


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7f32C5rDGM


Interesting channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Facialteam

Yeah, no HRT can come even remotely close to FFS 😆
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Mods of Bambi Sleep Reddit deleted the post, but I recovered it:

u/amristo Wrote:I have often read about Bambi Sleep causing a loss of interest in pornography, which is my case, but I have also noticed a loss of interest in all the fetishes and fantasies that I have developed since my teenage years towards all things MTF sissy etc, I had a feminine side that was quite present and quite evolved, now it's like I've lost all of that, I feel neutral.

Is it due to the erasing the files do, or is it a subconscious reaction to the bad experience I had with the files? Where do the files make sure they don't tolerate anything else but looking and being exactly like Bambi?

Can all this prove, that gender theory is more mental than anything else? The mind creates envy, envy creates manifestation, manifestation can influence the physical in a limited way like subliminals do, all synchronized with our sexual habits and now all these things get meaning. We think that we are women somewhere or that we have something different, when all this is only psychological?

I've heard of retraining therapy, which is now banned, but it sounds like what I've been through. What if all of this was true?

Like Ra Wrote:
amristo Wrote:gender theory is more mental than anything else?
We had quite a few battles ... errrmmm ... hot discussions here: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...nge-thread

And this is a directly related post: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...8#pid51708

u/amristo Wrote:I always tried to understand why I was like that, I never rested on a definitive conclusion, I thought that there might be genetic causes, but at the same time a lot of things come to contradict this theory, then I figured it's probably the upbringing I got from my mother, toxic things that interfered with my personality and discovering porn at age 12, seeing naked adults having sex. having sex can be disturbing at this age, what disturbed me was seeing a well-developed adult penis giving pleasure to a woman when I was 12 and at 12, our penis did not It's not very well developed, so I was discouraged and found that the woman's place was better and easier and seemed more pleasant.

Following that, I lost self-confidence despite the fact that I like women, I was envious of the pleasure they took with these guys when I didn't feel able to assure them the same thing as me.

I couldn't compete with that. It made me pretty focused on the clichés about penis size, the ability to give women orgasms etc, all of that discouraged me, I turned in on myself and wanted to become myself. this woman I envied, I thought I was a failure and it was a mistake that I was a man because to be a man is to meet these criteria, so I spent all my youth masturbating in front of these pornos imagining myself in the place of the woman finally, that's how I get satisfaction so far, I tried to change the method but it was not satisfactory, it leaves a feeling frustrated like a ruined orgasm.

But when I'm with a woman things go well, I appreciate the female body and I don't have these thoughts like with solitary masturbation, but I had to learn how to have sex with a woman, that's not t was not easy at first because it requires psychological construction on something we had never done before, but luckily I found the woman who was patient with me and who supported me.

All this I understood only recently, I could not have this type of reasoning at the time.

Like Ra Wrote:
amristo Wrote:I thought that there might be genetic causes, but at the same time a lot of things come to contradict this theory, then I figured it's probably the upbringing I got from my mother, toxic things that interfered with my personality and discovering porn at age 12, seeing naked adults having sex
Two related threads here:

https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...nks-Traits
https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...e-a-choice

Like Ra Wrote:
amristo Wrote:It made me pretty focused on the clichés to be a man is to meet these criteria
Yeah, social expectations. And disappointment is a function of expectation. Society is kinda toxic....

Like Ra Wrote:
amristo Wrote:All this I understood only recently, I could not have this type of reasoning at the time.
Yep, that's what we do all our life. First learning and socializing, then trying to understand what we have learned, then trying to unlearn and desocialize to break free.
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(17 Aug 2023, 15:00 )Like Ra Wrote: "Sex is between the legs. Gender is between the ears".
In other words: "Sex" is physical/physiological. "Gender" is mental. This is by the definition of these terms.
^It's insane how few people, from allies to enemies of transgenderism, understand this differentiation.
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(17 Aug 2023, 19:32 )NotSpoogeanator Wrote:
(17 Aug 2023, 15:00 )Like Ra Wrote: "Sex is between the legs. Gender is between the ears".
In other words: "Sex" is physical/physiological. "Gender" is mental. This is by the definition of these terms.
^It's insane how few people, from allies to enemies of transgenderism, understand this differentiation.
The modern redefinition of gender is, well, really quite modern. You go back to pre-WW2 dictionaries and (paraphrasing) it's like this:

Webster 1913 for example (just the easiest one I could find, I'm certain I've seen ones closer to 40s/50s era too): https://www.websters1913.com/words/Gender

So it's quite possible that someone who opposes transgenderism is also using an older definition of the word too, and (this being a culture war thing) is refusing to adopt your definition as a matter of principle. It's like how the definition of "gay" changed.

As an aside, look at katplanchette on the last page talk about "transphobia". That's another redefinition, because a "phobia" is, strictly speaking, an irrational fear, but it's being used in place of mis- or -misia, i.e. hatred, dislike, or aversion. Misogyny = hatred of women, misandry = hatred of men, so transmisia would be *hatred* of trans people. If you think anti-gay-rights or anti-trans people *fear* gays or whatever then you're laughably wrong. It's disgust or hatred they feel. I think it was Steven Pinker who did a whole thing on how socially conservative people (I don't know about others like libertarians) have a much stronger disgust reflex, for want of a better term, than left-wing people. Point is, they literally think AND feel differently to you at a very deep level.

Bonus: this is why you should support the repealing of Roe vs Wade, whether you think abortion is murder, or reproductive health, or whatever. Because if the people in Washington D.C. get to decide policy on that for the ENTIRE country, then only one side can be the victor - and Trump & the current Supreme Court has clearly shown that it's not a one-way street in terms of endless left-wing victories. So you have two options:

1. A constant fight to control policy for the entire country, whereby the losing side believes it is being unjustly oppressed by the winning side. Golly gee gosh, I sure hope there's no precedent for what might happen if this doesn't self-correct (insert meme of Alex Jones "1776 will commence again!" here)...
2. A compromise whereby the people who literally think & feel differently to you do their thing in their part of the country, and you do your thing in your part. Which might suck if you want an abortion and are deep in rural Texas, but at least you HAVE legal options vs e.g. what happens if a federal ban on abortion were to pass.
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