Actual *forced* feminization?

All, you are missing the point. That's why I wrote this:

Let's think theoretically, and, for the time being, let's ignore any (real or possible) moral, health, or legal issues.

go see a pro domme, it will be cheaper than transition

It's not about "forced feminization" 😉

in terms of what this would entail - probably depends on the source of the fetish.  if this is primarily based in feelings of humiliation i.e. mef, you are probably targeting a place where you are somewhat feminized but still recognizable as male.  vs. true "feminization" which would look much more similar to transition

from what you're saying, your reasons for wanting this are primarily agp.

Rude.

Do you go around handing out free psych diagnoses to everyone you encounter, or is today my lucky day?..

Dial it back by about 95% there, chief.

from what you're saying, your reasons for wanting this are primarily agp.

Rude.

Do you go around handing out free psych diagnoses to everyone you encounter, or is today my lucky day?..

Dial it back by about 95% there, chief.

you misunderstand!  i'm suggesting that from your original post, you say you're interested in forcefem primarily for the paraphilic enjoyment of being forcefemmed, not for other lifestyle reasons

from what you're saying, your reasons for wanting this are primarily agp.

Rude.

Do you go around handing out free psych diagnoses to everyone you encounter, or is today my lucky day?..

Dial it back by about 95% there, chief.

you misunderstand! i'm suggesting that from your original post, you say you're interested in forcefem primarily for the paraphilic enjoyment of being forcefemmed, not for other lifestyle reasons

If you had actually written down what you mean instead of lazily slinging around acronyms, then people wouldn't "misunderstand" you.

This is the AGP you were referring to, yes? "Autogynephilia: an underappreciated paraphilia" - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22005209/

Unless of course you were talking about Accelerated Graphics Port or Ambulatory Glucose Profile?

Did you bother to read the links I posted before labeling a fellow human being with an outdated slur? Here, again, from comment #12: https://pdfcoffee.com/sissytasks-kostenl...-free.html - a full-on transition program that starts small and ends with the subject living a 24/7 female-presenting lifestyle, getting a job where they're expected to wear a uniform and maintain fem appearance, etc. The only "G" reference is stuffing a bra with bags of birdseed or wharever else is available.

...but no, that would actually involve reading for more than 5 minutes, wouldn't it?

You're not Columbo. Or Socrates. Or Holmes. So don't act like one.

from what you're saying, your reasons for wanting this are primarily agp.

Rude.

Do you go around handing out free psych diagnoses to everyone you encounter, or is today my lucky day?..

Dial it back by about 95% there, chief.

you misunderstand!  i'm suggesting that from your original post, you say you're interested in forcefem primarily for the paraphilic enjoyment of being forcefemmed, not for other lifestyle reasons

If you had actually written down what you mean instead of lazily slinging around acronyms, then people wouldn't "misunderstand" you.

This is the AGP you were referring to, yes? "Autogynephilia: an underappreciated paraphilia" - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22005209/

Unless of course you were talking about Accelerated Graphics Port or Ambulatory Glucose Profile?

Did you bother to read the links I posted before labeling a fellow human being with an outdated slur? Here, again, from comment #12: https://pdfcoffee.com/sissytasks-kostenl...-free.html - a full-on transition program that starts small and ends with the subject living a 24/7 female-presenting lifestyle, getting a job where they're expected to wear a uniform and maintain fem appearance, etc. The only "G" reference is stuffing a bra with bags of birdseed or wharever else is available.

...but no, that would actually involve reading for more than 5 minutes, wouldn't it?

You're not Columbo. Or Socrates. Or Holmes. So don't act like one.

i'm sorry that i offended you 😟

i certainly didn't mean any offense, just to label the source of your desire

are your reasons for wanting to be forcefemmed _not_ based in fetish?

Life is too short and precious to play "20 questions" with armchair diagnosticians.

Good day.

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Guess, why I insisted on the following:

Let's think theoretically, and, for the time being, let's ignore any (real or possible) moral, health, or legal issues.

Because, otherwise we would (did!) get this

Rude.

i'm sorry that i offended you 😟

It was neither rudeness, nor offence. In fact, it was an attempt to help with the (assumed) actual problem. I "assumed" similar "circumstances", and proposed to stay within the theoretical domain.

Because... when the dream meets reality, it might be painful.

Did you bother to read the links I posted

You, actually, wrote it in the very first sentence:

I've been a closeted sissy for many years

And then:

and I've tried hypnosis + occasional supportive girlfriends (they weren't really into it, but they humored me) + different chat-roulettes, etc, etc.
All good fun.

... and finally:

any established program that would actually force you to get feminized?

That led to "assuming", that we are talking kink and fetishes here. Not about transitioning for the reasons like "being absolutely incompatible with own male appearance". And the closest term is AGP (my case, as a part of my general gynephilia 😁).

labeling a fellow human being with an outdated slur?

Hey, what' wrong with AGP? AGP is absolutely real and not outdated. And, of course, we have a dedicated thread on it: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-Autogynephilia

Did you bother to read the links I posted before labeling a fellow human being with an outdated slur? Here, again, from comment #12: https://pdfcoffee.com/sissytasks-kostenl...-free.html - a full-on transition program

It's about sissification. And this is important. Because "sissification" is a kink.

...but no, that would actually involve reading for more than 5 minutes, wouldn't it?

How do you know? In other words, you "assumed" (or read the thoughts)?

You're not Columbo. Or Socrates. Or Holmes. So don't act like one.

So, who's playing Holmes here? 😉 And how do you know, that the other person's name or surname is not Columbo, Socrates or Holmes?

See what's happening here?

Hence, again:

Let's think theoretically, and, for the time being, let's ignore any (real or possible) moral, health, or legal issues.

[Like Ra]

Life is too short and precious to play "20 questions" with armchair diagnosticians.

You asked for help. We are trying to help, think together, and lead a logical argumentative discussion. Discussions assume questions, arguments, counterarguments, hypotheses, critique, looking for explanations. Let's help each other and appreciate everybody's time.

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probably depends on the source of the fetish. 

That's different. And might be unsolvable. Partially, because of this: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...nks-Traits
"General experience" and some scientific researches show, that some fetishes, sexual orientations, traits are "built-in".
"The source(s) of our fetish(es)" is a separate topic. Extremely interesting, extremely important, and, mostly, unprovable.

if this is primarily based in feelings of humiliation i.e. mef, you are probably targeting a place where you are somewhat feminized but still recognizable as male.  vs. true "feminization" which would look much more similar to transition

This is not "a source". This is more "what is your actual fetish?" Good question. "Humiliation" is "considered" a basic part of "sissification", and one of the main differences between "feminization" and "sissification". All cited links are more about "sissification".
"Enforced bi" is another difference, as sissies are supposed to satisfy both men and women.

Indeed, are we talking about "forced feminization" or "forced sissification"?

Life is too short and precious to play "20 questions" with armchair diagnosticians.

You asked for help. We are trying to help, think together, and lead a logical argumentative discussion. Discussions assume questions, argument, counterarguments, hypotheses, critique, looking for explanations. Let's help each other and appreciate everybody's time.

I didn't ask for a 100% tailored forcefem source for me specifically. 😋 My question was general. In a world where a lot of women are disgusted even by the mere idea of a guy not acting manly, I have yet to find a single actual source of forcefem. (Aside from the few I mentioned earlier - the chances I had lost.) If there had been a cornucopia of tailored choices (I yearn for that glorious future...), then yeah, we could make that discussion about me specifically. But there is no such cornucopia. :'(

And thus the question remains: if one were curious about feminization but would never actually go through with it on his own, what (if any) options are there that would actually force-feminize him? E.g., make him indistinguishable from a biological woman by forcing more and more changes, without any way to back out or change his mind? (Assuming, as you said, that ethics and morality are irrelevant.)