Image analysis

[Like Ra]

I'm experimenting with Hermes (https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showth...p?tid=4606), and for some of my projects I need a detailed image analysis AND proper tagging.

It turned out, that it's VERY difficult to find an LLM which indeed understands what's pictured.

Post your experience, ideas and solutions here.

[Like Ra]

To my great surprise, only Claude and Gemini were able to determine what the girl is wearing on this image: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...1#pid86451

Neither ChatGPT, nor Grok, nor Gemma, nor Qwen, nor Mistral were able to understand the concept of a "single-glove"!

From the small local models, only Qwen was close. From small local models, only Qwen can describe bondage scenes quite detailed.

So far my recommendation for local "image description" models - https://ollama.com/lukey03/qwen3.5-9b-ab...ted-vision (it's uncensored)

So far my recommendation for local "image description" models - https://ollama.com/lukey03/qwen3.5-9b-ab...ted-vision (it's uncensored)

I've been using https://ollama.com/sorc/qwen3.5-instruct-heretic for image description and Stable-Diffusion img->prompt generation . I'll give lukey's a try. Thanks!

[Like Ra]

It's still a 9b Qwen3.5 version, so should be very similar. I also tried https://ollama.com/huihui_ai/Qwen3.6-abliterated:27b with only 30 layers offloaded to the GPU.
While slow, it's only a bit better, than Qwen3.5 9B, yet can go completely crazy.

https://ollama.com/huihui_ai/qwen3-vl-abliterated 8b is only 6.1GB, and should understand videos, but it's a bit less precise for images.

[Like Ra]

A hack: ask the model to check what it wrote about the image with the image itself. THAT result is much more precise.