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RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - Cattani - 07 Apr 2022 (10 Oct 2021, 04:09 )HypnoMix Wrote:(12 Aug 2020, 02:24 )Tinker D Wrote: Years ago, movie theaters use to splice food and drink slides into the film. Specifically for hypno files, I would say people using them are precisely in "thirsty mode" and pretty ready to be influenced. So that helps. RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - Cattani - 07 Apr 2022 (07 Apr 2022, 01:44 )erostratus Wrote: Basically, if there's any chance silent subliminals can work, you'll need bone conducting headphones. But even with those, I remain skeptical. Out of all the success stories I've read about hypnosis, I've never heard a story where someone made a behavioral change exclusively from silent subliminals. Me too. I think that if the subliminals are not silent as such but on the verge of being intelligible if you really really pay attention, they can perhaps add another 10-20% to the experience. And that's not nothing. But silent subliminals, yeah, not without bone conduction or some other jump in tech. RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - shinybambi - 07 Apr 2022 They're almost like placebo, only work if you know they ' re there. Sames as 25 frame. In BS background "subliminal" are used not to transfer some hidden message, but to silence your mind to make you more susceptible to main track, for example. Quite genius trick I'd say. RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - HypnoMix - 29 Nov 2022 I guess silent subs is one thing, but the real subs are ones you hear in trance and hidden very well. This should enter your subconscious better and memory as well. You still hear it but don't notice it right away in your forward conscious, I think. After a lot of listens we all start searching for them and if you pay attention you will find them. I agree with the content of the file on first listen, I will just play it and trance out to it. More fun that way. Just search later on!!! 😁 RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - Like Ra - 02 Mar 2025 Just found this article from 1986 The effects of an auditory subliminal message upon the production of images and dreams https://doi.org/10.1097/00005053-198607000-00003 Quote:Abstract RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - Like Ra - 02 Mar 2025 And another one Subliminal messages exert long-term effects on decision-making https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6204644/ Quote:Abstract RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - Munkiman - 06 May 2025 I can tell you with near 100% certainty that subliminals can be effective and can set triggers, although I can't tell you how to make them effective or why they work. I have personally experienced reacting to triggers that I never consciously heard, particularly in the files of Samantha Bandler and Kei. At one point I considered the possibility that I was just reacting in a way I expected and a trigger was never set, but upon closely examining files I've found suggestions to the effects I've experienced that I never heard until AFTER they affected me, and in some cases I still cannot hear them when I sit down to listen to the file. Some of these are dramatic or specific enough that I'm forced to accept that they were set subliminally, which is something was previously very skeptical about. That said, *not all* subliminal triggers seem to work--I have found some that I don't think I've ever reacted to. What sets the effective ones apart, I couldn't tell you. I wish I could interview the person behind Samantha Bandler about how they do their subliminals and maybe hunt down what works. It's also possible, maybe even likely, that different things work better for different people. I suspect part of it is the complex layers that Samantha usually uses in her files--I would guess that the subliminal track is loud enough to hear, but quiet enough that it's very difficult to pick out from the mix intentionally. I understand that an anecdote from one random person online is not strong evidence, but I can assure you that I am of sound mind and am -absolutely convinced- that I was effected in this way, because I don't see any other way I would be effected like this. The only other possibility I can even imagine is that I am experiencing very effective hypnotic amnesia--but that seems very unlikely, both because some of these files I have listened to dozens of times and have never once remembered hearing these triggers set, and because hypnotic amnesia is an effect that I have historically struggled to experience. Effects I have had from triggers that I never consciously registered (i.e., I have no memory of the trigger being set, activated, or both): *HFO *My body shaking uncontrollably *Feeling like I have no control over my arms and they're moving without my input to play with my nipples #My body going completely limp when I try to get up after a file is over +After the above, I become incredibly aroused and have an HFO. I cannot move my arms but am compelled to raise my hips so I cum on my face. *Miming specific sexual acts during a file *Miming specific sexual acts after a file +#Falling forward onto my hands and knees, miming sexual acts, and then falling limp and having an HFO *Incredible arousal at the sight of a specific image *I am certain all of these suggestions are in the file due to careful examination AFTER being effected by them +I am certain some of these suggestions are in the file due to careful examination, but I have not been able to confirm certain aspects #I have confirmed suggestions that MAY be the cause of these effects, but they aren't direct I hope the person behind SB passes on their knowledge before they retire, because with some rare exceptions, they are the only person who seems to be able to make this work for me--although it doesn't seem to be effective 100% of the time RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - RabbitSeason - 14 May 2025 I've tried numerous silent subliminals and other high-frequency (but still just barely audible) subliminals without any noticeable effect at all. One thing I think deserves mention is that if an audio file is encoded in mp3 the higher frequencies will be more degraded by the compression. We can see information still encoded there in the spectrogram, but it's hard to know how much is still intelligible, but we know that mp3 specifically removes bits from very high frequency ranges and audio masked by other audio - the exact mechanisms that subliminals work in. When creating new subliminals, I would recommend encoding in a lossless codec (like FLAC) and testing with that. RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - dustymoon1 - 14 May 2025 (14 May 2025, 16:51 )RabbitSeason Wrote: I've tried numerous silent subliminals and other high-frequency (but still just barely audible) subliminals without any noticeable effect at all. One thing I think deserves mention is that if an audio file is encoded in mp3 the higher frequencies will be more degraded by the compression. We can see information still encoded there in the spectrogram, but it's hard to know how much is still intelligible, but we know that mp3 specifically removes bits from very high frequency ranges and audio masked by other audio - the exact mechanisms that subliminals work in. When creating new subliminals, I would recommend encoding in a lossless codec (like FLAC) and testing with that. It also depends on in depth of encoding. One can have a 320kbs mp3 with 98% of the information present - most cannot tell the difference between a CD and 320 kbs. As one makes the file smaller, by encoding, more and more information is lost. It would be nice to have a 14/44 FLAC file. RE: Subliminal suggestions in hypnosis - Like Ra - 14 May 2025 (14 May 2025, 18:13 )dustymoon1 Wrote: 14/44 FLAC24/96 you mean? 😉 |