(06 Apr 2022, 03:04 )Like Ra Wrote:

(06 Apr 2022, 02:14 )d7i Wrote: I see a repeating pattern here:

See this post:
https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-It%E2%80%99s-WAR-God-I-hope-not?pid=59086#pid59086

(06 Apr 2022, 02:36 )shinybambi Wrote: I also wanted to prove that you'll dismiss any info that doesn't fit your world view and narrative dictated by one sided western media and you just did it.

This is neither tricky, nor interesting. What IS interesting, and what IS tricky, is to make your discussion partner at least listen to your point of view, consider it, and respect it. Even if there is no consensus yet.
Can we try this approach?

(06 Apr 2022, 02:36 )shinybambi Wrote: Least thing I expect from people who hated Russians even before conflict is compassion. I just want you to admit that both sides commit horrible war crimes and flood infosphere with lies perpetuating hatred.

I also wanted to prove that you'll dismiss any info that doesn't fit your world view and narrative dictated by one sided western media and you just did it. That is all I wanted.

(06 Apr 2022, 03:35 )shinybambi Wrote: Great, now with that edit my last post looks as if I was calling them names... Well I didn't.

(06 Apr 2022, 03:35 )shinybambi Wrote: discussion is impossible if it's not one-sided pro-ukraine.

(05 Apr 2022, 13:44 )Like Ra Wrote: As for the origins of the conflict, it's more complicated, and none of the parties is innocent.

(21 Mar 2022, 21:55 )Like Ra Wrote: UA is absolutely NOT INNOCENT

(15 Mar 2022, 15:55 )Like Ra Wrote: Russian must become the 2nd official language in UA. 95% of Kharkiv/Charkov, 80% of Crimea/Krym, 52% of Kyiv/Kiev, one third of the whole population of UA call Russian a primary language, Russian is de facto lingua franca, the mother language of Zelensky is Russian. It should've done AGES ago, as both the actual fact, and something that would've decreased the conflict reasons significantly. Even the pro-Russian UA government did not do that! It's a HUGE mistake! I would even call it a crime!

(06 Apr 2022, 08:41 )d7i Wrote: could be easily avoided by Russian troops by not attacking Ukraine in the first place.

(06 Apr 2022, 09:11 )Like Ra Wrote: And, yes, both parties commit war crimes.

(05 Apr 2022, 03:16 )Like Ra Wrote: Video 1: UA soldiers shot RU prisoners of war in legs, etc.
UA reaction: It's a war crime and must be investigated!

(05 Apr 2022, 03:16 )Like Ra Wrote: Video 2: Dead civilians, dead semi burned naked raped women on streets, etc
RU reaction 1: It's all fake! It's all staged by Ukrainians! The corpses were moving!
RU reaction 2: UA killed them after we left Bucha!
RU reaction 3: UA shelled Bucha while we were there and killed hundreds of innocent people. When we left, then took the corpses and dropped them on the streets.

(06 Apr 2022, 10:44 )shinybambi Wrote: Oh, I absolutely agree that if Russia knew like it claimed that Ukraine was about to attack, they should've let them do it and only then "retaliate".

Video ##: Ukrainian rocket hits Donetsk, 21 civilian dead
EU/UA: [url=https://mobile.

Source: twitter.com/Kornilov1968/status/1504113105156009995
]didn't happen, what you see is a horrible result of Russian attack on Kyiv. [/url]

(06 Apr 2022, 11:34 )Vixien Wrote:

Source: https://twitter.com/i/status/1510403775902752769


How to argue with this opinons ?

(06 Apr 2022, 11:41 )d7i Wrote: If Russia would have a glass ball and could see future actions of Ukraine military and make preemptive strikes, then they would probably do much better with their offensive in Ukraine. Apparently there are not doing as good as they expected, so it seems that they do not have glass ball and really should have waited for Ukrainians to attack first.