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Loved your ranting, Ra!
feel the same as if it was AI generated based on your test.
the test put me in between a & t
so, if types don't change & only skill in areas improves with experience then i definitely am an INTJ who learned to fake an ENTP 😉
https://uquiz.com/Result/static/lite/EUC...0db8bbf449
ENTP, ILE
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(03 Jun 2024, 06:37 )brandynette Wrote: ENTP, ILE Told ya... Either ENTP (same type as me) or ENTJ....
(03 Jun 2024, 06:37 )brandynette Wrote: i definitely am an INTJ who learned to fake an ENTP 😉 Not possible. INTJ and ENTP are very different. See my comparison above.
Inversions are possible. E.g. ENTP <-> ENTJ, INTP <-> INTJ, but the type remains the same, yet for some reasons (conflicting parents, stress, extreme circumstances, long periods of exhaustion, etc), men act not from their strongest (the 1st, Ego block, 1st and 2nd functions), but from their survival functions (the 4th, Id block, 8th and 7th functions), what leads to attracting conflicting types.
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(03 Jun 2024, 06:37 )brandynette Wrote: so, if types don't change & only skill in areas improves with experience then i definitely am an INTJ who learned to fake an ENTP 😉 Or your test awareness affects the results, and you're trying to give "correct" answers to fit into desired category.
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(03 Jun 2024, 22:30 )shinybambi Wrote: Or your test awareness affects the results, and you're trying to give "correct" answers to fit into desired category. I perfectly know how to give "correct" answers to usual tests. But this one is VERY different: https://uquiz.com/quiz/EUCZE1/totally-ac...onics-test
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Looks like a standard test that asks you almost the same questions over and over and over again, just a little more typos than usual.
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(03 Jun 2024, 23:36 )shinybambi Wrote: Looks like a standard test that asks you almost the same questions over and over and over again, just a little more typos than usual. This one? https://uquiz.com/quiz/EUCZE1/totally-ac...onics-test
In standard tests you get dychotomies - -2 -1 0 +1 +2
Here, you get 4 not very clear variants.
What result did you get?
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(03 Jun 2024, 23:55 )Like Ra Wrote: What result did you get? INTP, ILI
(03 Jun 2024, 23:55 )Like Ra Wrote: In standard tests you get dychotomies - -2 -1 0 +1 +2
Here, you get 4 not very clear variants. Some answers look like they don't belong, maybe quiz maker does not allow more than 4 variants, and whoever created that test just tried to fit all the answers without order, that would also explain why some steps have an actual question/title, while the rest are just some vague variants without a proper title for quiz step.
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the conflict is my schizoaffective diagnosis. during hypomanic states my ENTP turns turbulent or antisocial, the Halluzination i get isn't something im seeing or hearing, it the affective part of my schizophrenia where i hallucinate personality traits & have a wildly abnormal ego.
i can't tell how im being myself, i completely misinterpret myself & reach very wrong conclusions.
it like as if my ego was cheating, nothing is really hurtful, anything you Trow at me i can counter, i react the oposite & might just trigger you to hurt me just to take the pleasure away from you... i like as if my masochism, instead of introverting gets extroverted & turns into sadism.
so im quite convinced my INTJ results came from it.
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A former employer send me on a 3 day course where I had the "pleasure" of getting to know all about the MBTI stuff. I was not going to comment here but I see some typical stuff surfacing here that people get confused about or just plain wrong. I'm only talking about MBTI, don't know about the other stuff you are talking about.
MBTI is not science. You are one of the 16 types, yes but that does not mean you have an excuse to fit that box. No "oh that such an INTP thing of me to do" bullshit. It only tells you where you are naturally most comfortable in this pseudo-science kinda way.
I'm an "I", meaning "Introversion" trait, MBTI clearly sais not to call I-types introverts, the correct phrasing is people having the introversion trait. People that don't know me very well and meet me at parties or at work would describe me as an extrovert because I do act extroverted in these settings. I have learned to be more extroverted over many years because it pays of to be more extroverted in social settings and in my line of work. I'm still introversion, this is proven by the fact that being outgoing and outspoken drains my mental battery and I need some quiet and alone me time to recharge, which is textbook introversion.
You can't tell your type by doing an online test. Your type is not clear until later in your life. Early on you might show traits that are imposed on you by people that are dominant, early in life these are your parents or siblings, later your peer group, partner or boss. Every time you transition trough what they call a crisis where your true traits surface and you free yourself of the role that was imposed on you. The final crisis, as was told to me, might only happen when you happily retire and are finally free from any pressure to comply with any social norm you might feel is needed to advance in life. For this reason you need an experienced interviewer to test you. I scored high for both introversion and extroversion? Was it because I have 4 siblings and i was in a class of 32 students in school forcing me to spreak up? Further questioning made it clear that I was definitely introversion but "the most extroverted introversion she had ever met" according to the tutor.
In the course of these 3 days we as a group did many tests and role playing where we were divided in groups based on the 4 character trait pairs. This was the only actually useful thing of the course as it opened my eyes to the fact that people don't think or reason the same way I do. I left the course with more understanding and patience for my fellow men. ie. When I make a suggestion to you on how to do something I have it all worked out, I've probably been thinking about it for days or weeks, made some drawings and schematics, planned for what could go wrong and worked out a budget. Then there are people who just yell out every half a thought that pops in their mind and start working it out loudly on the spot. If you make a suggestion to me I will consider it, pro's and cons, get back to you with follow up questions, ... while my girlfriend will just say no based on some gut feeling without being able to tell what it is she doesn't like about it, I don't like that but it's up to me to win her over and up to her to express her reasons. Some people need to write down steps with every small detail while others just wing it.
So what I have learned is:
- people are different and their minds work different, accept it
- if your are an E, learn how to be an I and vice versa (it will be tiring but you are tiring for the other person as well so learn to be accommodating), goes for the other letters as well
- MBTI is pseudo-science at best, never use it a reason to do something or as excuse to be an ass
- that online test you took is not accurate, big grain of salt there, learn to know yourself to find out what you really need
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(04 Jun 2024, 07:46 )brandynette Wrote: i like as if my masochism, instead of introverting gets extroverted & turns into sadism. It depends on intuitiveness-sensorness, not on the "vert-ity".
All intuitive types are either "victims" (e.g. INTP/ILI/"Balzac", INFP/IEI/"Yesenin", ENTJ/LIE/"Jack London", ENFJ/EIE/"Hamlet") or "infantiles" (the rest of "N"s/intuitive types).
Similarly, all sensory types are either "aggressors" (ESTP/SLE/"Zhukov", ESFT/SEE/"Napoleon", ISTJ/LSI/"Maxim Gorky", ISFJ/ESI/"Dreisers") or "caring" (the rest of "S"s/sensory types).
The dual pairs consist of an "aggressor" and "victim" (for example, ESFT/SEE/"Napoleon" and INTP/ILI/"Balzac") or "caring" and "infantile" (for example, ESFJ/ESE/"Hugo" and INTJ/LII/"Robespierre").
(04 Jun 2024, 07:46 )brandynette Wrote: so im quite convinced my INTJ results came from it. No, your INTJ came from bad testing.
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