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I usually ping as INTJ, but at like 50% introverted, and below 5% for the rest of them, so I don't think it's a good personality test for me.
I haven't done a test that I thought did -A/-T very well, though again, probably not a good paradigm for me.
Not sure about the additional letters.
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19 May 2024, 14:32
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(19 May 2024, 06:35 )napras-sword Wrote: I usually ping as INTJ Do you have anybody around with whole-spectrum clear open real emotions? Which can switch almost immediately from joy to sorrow, while not being fake?
"Oh... look at those flowers!!! π Oh, they are so beautiful! π€© So fresh, so juicy! Oooh they smell so tasty, like honey with lemon and vanilla!ππ€©π I even want to bite them!!!! π€£π If I were a bee, I would dive right there with high speed ... vvzhzhzhzhz .... and hungry sound and would roll around!!!! π€©ππ Yes!!! Oh, have you heard of Susanne? π― She was stung by a bee when she tried to smell a rose! π± She's allergic to that venom! π° It hurted so much! π Poor girl... ππππsnifff... She could not breathe!!! π... sniff ... She almost died!!!! Fortunately, someone had an adrenaline injector and saved her! ππππLiterally a hero!!!! π€©π"
Can you imagine your reaction?
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19 May 2024, 17:17
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(19 May 2024, 14:32 )LikeΒ Ra Wrote: Can you imagine your reaction? I'm too preoccupied with how you typed that up like one of those meme obnoxious as possible copypasta comments with a million emoticons between each word.
Is whiplashing back and forth like that actually emotionally healthy? No, I've never encountered anyone who has 1: done that 2: nor seemed like they could do that and not seem to be faking it.
I think it's the fact that you're running a forum for discussing the minutiae of certain specific fetish content that's skewing your audience a bit.
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(19 May 2024, 17:17 )napras-sword Wrote: Is whiplashing back and forth like that actually emotionally healthy? It requires ENERGY. Because emotions is pure energy.
(19 May 2024, 17:17 )napras-sword Wrote: No, I've never encountered anyone who has 1: done that 2: nor seemed like they could do that and not seem to be faking it. Ha! That's typical ESFj (aka "Hugo" in socionics). If you haven't met anybody like that, it's, actually, bad, because, if you are INTJ, that might be your dual, an ideal partner. True real emotions is a bliss.
However, there is nothing worse (relationship-wise) than that for INTp ("Balzac"). One letter (J vs P) makes a HUGE difference!
(19 May 2024, 17:17 )napras-sword Wrote: I think it's the fact that you're running a forum for discussing the minutiae of certain specific fetish content that's skewing your audience a bit. Yep, from what I see, such forums attract intuitive thinking males. Hence, we do not have anybody here with such emotions. Sensory Ethical girls do not need that π
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(19 May 2024, 17:17 )napras-sword Wrote: No, I've never encountered anyone who has 1: done that 2: nor seemed like they could do that and not seem to be faking it.
Look for Suzanne Schulting's interviews. The quickest I could find (it's in Dutch, just watch her emotions):
https://www.rtl.nl/tv/fragmenten/video/1...komt-eruit
From 3:25
https://nos.nl/video/2467175-relayvrouwe...p-m-n-team
I will try to find the one where she switches between laughing, crying, back to laughing within a minute.
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(19 May 2024, 17:43 )Like Ra Wrote: I will try to find the one where she switches between laughing, crying, back to laughing within a minute. No, can't find it. But in this video you can see what ethical extrovert is:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJUnZZ7rhg
There is a chance, that she's ENFj (intuitive type, "Hamlet"), but I vote for ESFj (sensory type, "Hugo").
(19 May 2024, 17:17 )napras-sword Wrote: I'm too preoccupied with how you typed that up like one of those meme obnoxious as possible copypasta comments with a million emoticons between each word.
And yes, ESFjs usually write like this π OK, I'm not ESFj, and I exaggerated a bit, but this is the best I could do to role-play them.
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Funny, I found that obnoxious too, and I'm an INTJ. Is it normal to be irritated by one's dual? lol
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(19 May 2024, 23:48 )Lycalopex Wrote: Funny, I found that obnoxious too, and I'm an INTJ. Is it normal to be irritated by one's dual? lol It can be my pathetical attempt to convey emotions (I'm NOT an ethical type at all!).
But, actually, yes. If you have never dealt with a dual, it might be a shock. I've seen such reactions from "typical INTJ", but then I saw how their mouths lengthened in satisfied smiles, eyes became dreamy...
ESFjs also change when they are with an INTJ, they become more balanced, more stable, less "all-over-the-place". Dualization is a process, when both sides evolve, and both sides must allow themselves to indulge in something they never thought possible before.
Funny, emotions, if not "the only" way to make INTJ do something outside of The System, is definitely the easiest method π INTJs feed on positive emotions.
I also know some examples, when INTJs, who were afraid of or not ready to open emotions, ended up with always gloomy and sombre INTPs ("Balzac"). Then, after they sucked the rest of a  eady not so much juices from each other, they simply had absolutely no energy to divorce or do something. It's sooooooo funny .....
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Well as I said, I'm 50% I, and then sub 5%, so extremely borderline N, T, and J. And even that's not even particularly true because I can and do gain energy from interacting with other people.
Also I just took your test from the first page and it gave me ISTP, again very borderline aside from introversion. But also some of the questions were bad, one was literally the text "undefined".
I'm probably actually an ambivert, of that "I'm low energy right now so I say I don't want to go out but if you make me I'll enjoy it" type.
(19 May 2024, 18:00 )Like Ra Wrote: But in this video you can see what ethical extrovert is I don't think I saw in that what you were describing before. Also I think interviews get highly edited sometimes, so I would chalk it up to that rather than emotional switching unless the words or content made it obvious it wasn't.
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Sorry I got distracted while writing that (I took both of those personality tests) and lost where I was going.
I find it a little odd that you had this name at the ready for this example, is she a famous ESFJ (which I doubt, I don't think they do these things for athletes) or did you just see this happen in an interview at some point?
Or perhaps -as you say you interact with a disproportionate number of INTJs- you have this as a premeditated example for this situation?
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