General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread

[Like Ra]

I have two sisters

Oh, nice!! Are they both older, than you? How much older (younger)?

Did you have the same family-responsibilities and family-obligations, e.g. home chores?

[Hazel]

I have two sisters

Oh, nice!! Are they both older, than you? How much older (younger)?

Did you have the same family-responsibilities and family-obligations, e.g. home chores?

I'm in the middle, and yes equal responsibilities at home.

[Like Ra]

Oh, so, you're growing between two princesses? 😊

Was it you who chose flute and swimming?

I remember Victor Wooten's story - he was born, because his older brothers' jazz band needed a bassist 😁 And he started playing bass when he could stably sit - at 2yo. I bet your sisters also played (still play?) something!

[Hazel]

Oh, so, you're growing between two princesses? 😊

Was it you who chose flute and swimming?

I remember Victor Wooten's story - he was born, because his older brothers' jazz band needed a bassist 😁 And he started playing bass when he could stably sit - at 2yo. I bet your sisters also played (still play?) something!

No, actually I wouldn't call my sisters princesses. They are more masculine! Swimming was not my choice, but flute was.

[Like Ra]

Interesting... Would you feel yourself more comfortable with two "princesses" or two "tomboys"? What masculine features would someone else notice in your sisters?

[Hazel]

Interesting... Would you feel yourself more comfortable with two "princesses" or two "tomboys"? What masculine features would someone else notice in your sisters?

Well they are not tomboys for sure! Just not the stereotypical girly girl. My older one is more career-oriented and likes to wear camo/army-style clothing, but she also likes to dress feminine at times. While my other sister is more feminine, but she has a very aggressive and forceful personality at times.

[Hazel]

Interesting... Would you feel yourself more comfortable with two "princesses" or two "tomboys"? What masculine features would someone else notice in your sisters?

Well they are not tomboys for sure! Just not the stereotypical girly girl. My older one is more career-oriented and likes to wear camo/army-style clothing, but she also likes to dress feminine at times. While my other sister is more feminine, but she has a very aggressive and forceful personality at times.

Also, I am interested in where this discussion is going and how it relates to my gender identity....?

[Like Ra]

While my other sister is more feminine

I'm very interested in your thoughts in this thread - Femininity

Just not the stereotypical girly girl.

What is a stereotypical girly girl in your opinion?

I am interested in where this discussion is going

Only the discussion itself can tell 😊 It would be very extremely stupid and arrogant to set up a particular goal and then, while trying to achieve it no matter what, kill yourself in attempts to spring over a deep a wide canyon (because this is the only way forward!), while the life itself offers you an alternative solution and a convenient footpath 😁

[Hazel]

While my other sister is more feminine

I'm very interested in your thoughts in this thread - Femininity

Just not the stereotypical girly girl.

What is a stereotypical girly girl in your opinion?

I am interested in where this discussion is going

Only the discussion itself can tell 😊 It would be very extremely stupid and arrogant to set up a particular goal  and then, while trying to achieve it no matter what, kill yourself in attempts to spring over a deep a wide canyon (because this is the only way forward!), while the life itself offers you an alternative solution and a convenient footpath  😁

Idk, i don't really like having intellectual discussions about gender or sexuality. Because you like who like or you are (identify) as you are and that's that. Its a feeling-based thing. Just try to discuss the feeling of love to someone who can't feel it...or take the example of a scientist spending their whole life studying oranges. In either case you will never fully understand it until you feel love or taste an orange. That subjective (non-analytical) experience is the ultimate understanding, and that should be enough because nothing else will "add" to that experiential understanding. So to me femininity is a feeling and its something you have to experience yourself through your own perspective. Nothing I say with these words will make you finally once and for all "get" femininity on a conceptional level, because it will always fall short of the feeling.

[Like Ra]

in either case you will never fully understand

One of the NLP presuppositions is that it's impossible to understand another person. Practitioners of various "eastern schools" spend decades in attempts to understand themselves and who they are. Discussions are still possible by using commonly and similarly understandable concepts, and any successful discussion is like a pin-ball machine with two or more players. Where you get the ball at the end is a joint effort 😊

In either case you will never fully understand it until you feel love or taste an orange.

Absolutely correct. I usually say: "You either feel it or not". E.g. psychology and socionics defines 4 basic languages (8 in socionics, they also differentiate between extra- and introvert functions): feeling, sensing, logic and intuition. Any verbal or written discussion is a translation from one "language" to the logic. Written discussion loses the most in this translation. However, no discussion is possible without a common language.

So to me femininity is a feeling and its something you have to experience yourself through your own perspective. Nothing I say with these words will make you finally once and for all "get" femininity on a conceptional level, because it will always fall short of the feeling.

Again, fully agree with each word! But did you notice, that in this thread I asked not about the femininity as a philosophical concept:

What is a stereotypical girly girl in your opinion?

That's different, don't you think?