Actual *forced* feminization?

I've been a closeted sissy for many years, and I've tried hypnosis + occasional supportive girlfriends (they weren't really into it, but they humored me) + different chat-roulettes, etc, etc.

All good fun. 😊 But all of them - even the ones with extreme step-by-step programs - were make-belief and worked on the honor system. There were zero consequences for chickening out or not doing the assignments you didn't like...

And so, my question: is there any way, any existing site, any established program that would actually force you to get feminized?

For example... Before Tumblr's huge Puritan purge, there was Princess Megan (itsmeganprincess) who bragged about having an intense year-long course of escalating challenges: fail her once, and you're out, but if you stuck with the free program (while sending proof pics) long enough, then she'd threaten to blackmail you to motivate you to take the more extreme steps. (Getting tattoos, piercings, etc.) I never did figure out if she was just an amazing liar or if she was for real, and I was too hesitant to apply... She's disappeared from the internet after Tumblr kicked her out and Bdsmlr proved to be too buggy.

Before you mention hypno files - yup, I know about them, but once again, you can always quit them and deprogram haha

There used to be a fun university-themed site with anime pictures and courses to complete over several weeks, but a) all the punishments were on the honor system, nothing forced about it, and b) the site's creator abandoned it, so it stagnated without any updates. 😟

And so: is there any way to actually get *force* feminized? Any way at all? 😉

@"Gabriel"  You may not like my answer.

Anyone who is actually willing to blackmail you and use any data you have given to them to expose, dox or compromise you in ways which you believe are "life ruining" are not people you should entrust that data to. They will not have your desires, goals or self interests at heart.

You get them regularly on one of the "chat-roulette" sites you are probably referring to, they pose as Doms/Dommes and when they have what they need, they try to extort money for non-exposure or not doxing you. They are not interested in your "secret desires". The Mods are good about banning them when noticed or are informed on the site I am referring to, but they come back under a new name & IP or new ones come to take their place. If they have your personal contact infos, they may continue doing so even after being banned. 
Online "blackmail" is really not a safe or good idea imho.

Online play partners who are sane, will always operate on the trust & "honor" system and will treat it as a game you are expected to be motivated to participate in and follow within the agreed boundaries without for you ever having truly devastating consequences. Not all people are sane & some who do not necessarily have nefarious reasons can be just as dangerous out of a plain lack of experience, naivety and not being able to comprehend the concept of empathy.

I always suggest...

Find a trusted irl partner who does not just tolerate or "humor" you, but shares an interest in your passions & the motivation is to not disappoint your partner.
or
Find a trustworthy local to you irl friend who is like yourself & explore together (if you are into chastity, you can be each others key-holders too 😁) . Is a heck of a lot more fun than online, you can learn from each other and again, not wanting to disappoint, peer pressure & friendship are the motivating factors (and boundaries are much more easily tested & explored together with someone else).

A little more safe than online might be a local and established fetish/BDSM group, where in a good one there is some community peer pressure and fear of expulsion for any Dom/Domme who callously crosses boundaries. But they vary a lot and does not automatically mean all of the people in them are safe. Getting involved in local groups (or going to LGBT+ events, dances etc) can be very helpful finding and getting to know others who are open to & have similar interests to your own. 

If the irl is more than just feminization & becomes sexual, always be safe & make sure you are both PrEPed & STI vaccinated.

[Like Ra]

is there any way to actually get *force* feminized? Any way at all? 😉

Excellent question. Something I've been thinking about for years. Let's think together. Let's think theoretically, and, for the time being, let's ignore any (real or possible) moral, health, or legal issues.

First of all, we need to agree on the terms and definitions.

What do we understand under "feminization"? A process? The end result? If the end result, what should it look like? What are the criteria? Is HRT absolutely needed? Is FFS required? Is SRS required? Any other surgery? Manners? Or clothes and makeup is enough? What about sexual orientation?

Then "[en]forced". Are we talking about changing the will (e.g. by step-by-step brainwashing)? Are we talking about life circumstances, when the person has to impersonate a woman, e.g. to get a job ("Some like it hot", "Tootsie") or to win in a competition (drag-queen shows)? Blackmailing? Magic? Life-threatening? Or pure kidnapping, narcosis and surgery?

Or do we discuss all possible scenarios?

[Like Ra]

[Like Ra]

is there any way to actually get *force* feminized? Any way at all? 😉

Excellent question. Something I've been thinking about for years. Let's think together. Let's think theoretically, and, for the time being, let's ignore any (real or possible) moral, health, or legal issues.

First of all, we need to agree on the terms and definitions.

What do we understand under "feminization"? A process? The end result? If the end result, what should it look like? What are the criteria? Is HRT absolutely needed?  Is FFS required? Is SRS required? Any other surgery? Manners? Or clothes and makeup is enough? What about sexual orientation?

Then "[en]forced". Are we talking about changing the will (e.g. by step-by-step brainwashing)? Are we talking about life circumstances, when the person has to impersonate a woman, e.g. to get a job ("Some like it hot", "Tootsie") or to win in a competition (drag-queen shows)?  Blackmailing? Magic? Life-threatening? Or pure kidnapping, narcosis and surgery?

Or do we discuss all possible scenarios?

I've been casually thinking about this for a while now. I do not have answers to these definitions yet but the game below is an interesting place to start from.
   
I think the  BONUS (EXTREME) area is way too much but otherwise a lot of this game could be tailored with minimum effort.
From here though is the idea of accountability.  What are some ways to create accountability? 

" 1. Some kind of site that gets a $ buy-in from every participant, and then you lose your buy-in money if you don't provide frequent proof (pics with no face?) of completing feminization tasks. The last person who continues with the program will get everyone's cash. 😉 (There is a similar site for writers: if you don't log on and type for at least 30 minutes a day, you're at risk of losing the monthly subscription fee: those who log on and type daily will make more $ than they'd paid. The site owner takes a small fee.)"

This is an interesting idea.  Something like a Fantasy Football league.  There would need to be a commissioner to run the league. I have more thoughts on this but they are jumbled up and need to be sorted. I will think more about it over the weekend and try to put together a cohesive idea.

[Like Ra]

the game below is an interesting place to start from.
   

I asked Gemini to recognize the text:

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ESCALATING HIDDEN FEMINIZATION

coding closet down the rabbit hole

This game is designed to be played over a long period of time and is meant for people who are still in the closet or who enjoy having a secret life. The tasks are all designed so that you can complete them while living a "normal" life. The more points you earn, the more your secret life will bleed into your daily life. You cannot lose points in this game, but points can be wagered or used as currency between players if you so choose. Some tasks are repeatable and some are not, if a task does not say it is repeatable then it is a one time bonus. The pace of the game is determined by the player(s).

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Gaining Points:

• Daily Tasks: These are tasks which can be done every day. They are small things that help you get into the mindset.
  
• Weekly Tasks: These tasks are done once a week. They require a bit more effort than daily tasks.
  
• Special Tasks: These tasks can be one-time, repeatable, or have a cool down. They are unique and give a large number of points.
  
• Events: Events are player created tasks. The player who creates the event sets the rules and the point rewards.
  

Playing with others:

• Dom/Master/Mistress: Can create tasks and events for their sub/pet/sissy. They can also reward and punish their sub as they see fit.
  
• Sub/Pet/Sissy: The Dom's plaything. They exist to please their master and follow their rules.
  
• Sissy Sisters: Two or more people playing the game together on equal footing. They can create tasks for each other and help each other earn points.
  

Punishments:

• Point reduction: The Dom can take points away.
  
• Extra tasks: The Dom can create new tasks for the sub to complete.
  
• Humiliation: The Dom can create humiliating tasks for the sub.
  
• Orgasms: The Dom has control over the sub's orgasms.
  

If you are playing solo, then you are both the Dom and the Sub. You will create your own tasks and will have to punish yourself for failing them.

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---Special rules---

1. The Soft Boy (0-10 Points)

1. Shave your entire body from the neck down (excluding arms). This must be maintained for the entire game.
   
2. All of your underwear must now be female underwear (thongs, panties, g-strings, etc.). You are not allowed to wear male underwear for any reason.
   

2. The Femboy in Training (11-20 Points)

1. You must wear a bra at all times when you are wearing a shirt. It does not have to be a padded bra but it must be a female bra. No sports bras.
   
2. You must start a daily skin care routine. This must include washing, exfoliating, and moisturizing your face.
   

3. The Cutie (21-35 Points)

1. You must start voice training. You must practice speaking in a higher pitched voice for at least 10 minutes a day.
   
2. You must grow out your hair. You are not allowed to cut your hair for the rest of the game. You must also start a daily hair care routine.
   

4. The Trap (36-50 Points)

1. You must start doing a daily workout routine that is focused on feminizing your body. This must include workouts for your butt, thighs, and abs.
   
2. You must buy a skirt and a pair of thigh highs. You must wear them for at least an hour each day. You can wear them under your normal clothes.
   

5. The Princess (51-70 Points)

1. You must start painting your nails. You must have them painted at all times. You can use clear polish if you need to hide it.
   
2. You must buy a buttplug. You must wear it for at least an hour each day. The size of the plug is up to you, but it should be comfortable enough to wear for an extended period of time.
   

6. The Sissy in Training (71-90 Points)

1. You must start wearing makeup. You must wear at least foundation, mascara, and eyeliner every day. You can wear more if you want to. You should find a style that is subtle enough that people won't notice it at a glance.
   
2. You must start practicing your walking. You must practice walking in a more feminine way for at least 10 minutes a day. You should also buy a pair of heels and practice walking in them.
   

7. The Bimbo to be (91-115 Points)

1. Your wardrobe will now get an overhaul. You must replace at least half of your male tops with female tops. You must also replace half of your male pants with female pants or skirts.
   
2. You must get your ears pierced. You must wear earrings at all times. They must be feminine earrings.
   

8. The Slut (116-140 Points)

1. You must now wear your butt plug at all times when you are not at home. You can take it out to clean it, but other than that it must be inside you.
   
2. You must buy a cage and start practicing chastity. You should start by wearing it for a few hours at a time and work your way up to wearing it for longer periods of time. The goal is to be locked 24/7.
   

9. The Cumdump (141-170 Points)

1. You are no longer allowed to use the men's restroom. If you are out in public, you must use the women's restroom. If you are not comfortable with this, you can use a family/unisex restroom.
   
2. Your entire wardrobe must now be female clothing. You are not allowed to own any male clothing. You must get rid of all of your old male clothes.
   

10. The Good Girl (171+ Points)

1. You must legally change your name to a female name of your choice.
   
2. You must begin hormone replacement therapy (HRT).
   

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BONUS TIME
This part of the game is optional, but it is highly recommended. These tasks will help you embrace your new life and have some fun with it.

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1. The Exhibitionist

• You must go out in public fully dressed as a woman. You must stay out for at least an hour. You must do this at least once a week. The more often you do it, the more points you will get.
  
• You must create a profile on a dating app and set your gender to female. You must talk to at least 5 different people.
  

2. The Pet

• You must start wearing a collar at all times. It should be a cute and feminine collar. You can take it off to shower, but other than that it must be on.
  
• You must start responding to your new name. If someone calls you by your old name, you must correct them. You can be polite about it, but you must correct them.
  

3. The Toy

• You must buy a dildo and a fleshlight. You must use them at least once a week. You must also start watching hypno porn.
  
• You must give up control of your orgasms to your Dom/Master/Mistress. If you are playing solo, you must use a chastity app to control your orgasms.
  

You mean, this scenario/progrram it can be theoretically "enforced" on someone?
BTW, it's more about sissification.