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ADHD med impacts on how you think
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Just a more side thread on how ADHD meds impact your thought process. Some background is on the hypnosis thread but in summary my family seems to have undiagnosed adhd problems which manifest in every single one taking careers in engineering among other oddities. Got treated more for the inability to do things and garbage memory as well as low energy. Background over in to the effects of the meds, non stimulant meds btw.

  Now I originally hoped that it would have impact on my ability to use hypnosis or bondage but it seems that while it is amazing it ain't magic. It has greatly improved my memory ability to do things and energy at the cost of draining a lot of emotional energy, Basically you stop feeling and start doing which is good in most cases. Sadly the non stimulant nature means it doesn't go away and persists for the whole day, a small price for easy to get meds and no crash but it means that my sex drive has been greatly reduced. Normally this is great as you aren't randomly horny but trying to get an erection is now really difficult, I can watch all the porn I like without getting an erection. 

  The effects become significantly more noticeable when you take two in one sitting rather then spread out over the day. I managed to get a colossal amount of work done in a day with perfect focus and without becoming tired but I would start shaking if not doing anything and had no thoughts of food or sex at all. 

  On the more philosophical side of things this is fairly troubling for me. On one hand the meds were supposed to bring me to a more functional human baseline and while they have succeeded at that it raises odd questions about how we think and how ADHD makes your though processes different as well. I cannot tell for example if my reduced mood is normal or abnormal, I don't suppose normal people get ravenously hungry an hour before lunch and dinner or feel the intense craving for snacks yet normal people also feel the need to eat. That was one of the more easy to compare feelings yet what about happiness or excitement? Do normal people see the world duller then people with adhd do? Sure I gained a newfound appreciation for the mundane and small moments in life but what happened to those grandiose highs and the nerve wracking excitement?

Sorry if this seems a bit incoherent, this was written very late at night.

Addon 1: also the time management section of my brain has finally kicked on, the only downside is that it views spending time getting into an out of bondage as a huge waste of time. When combined with my general decrease in sex drive means that the emotional math just isn't in bondages favor anymore.
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#2
Very interesting observations!

I've heard from various sources, that ADHD medicine is very effective for, for example, preparations for exams. Regardless of the ADHD presence. And what you describe sounds very positive to me, yet something within you is looking for dopamines.

The question is: What is more addicting - ADHD drugs or fetishes?
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(17 May 2022, 02:48 )Like Ra Wrote: Very interesting observations!

I've heard from various sources, that ADHD medicine is very effective for, for example, preparations for exams. Regardless of the ADHD presence. And what you describe sounds very positive to me, yet something within you is looking for dopamines.

The question is: What is more addicting - ADHD drugs or fetishes?

Considering the ADHD meds basically just delete your sex drive I would say the ADHD meds won out in the end. Haven't done any bondage in weeks now.
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(18 May 2022, 05:19 )Lancer Wrote: Considering the ADHD meds basically just delete your sex drive
You sure that this is how Ritalin/methylphenidates work? They do change the dopamine metabolism and, in fact, increase arousal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate

And amphetamines are clearly addictive and they also increase sexual addictions and sexual activity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine
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(18 May 2022, 16:46 )Like Ra Wrote:
(18 May 2022, 05:19 )Lancer Wrote: Considering the ADHD meds basically just delete your sex drive
You sure that this is how Ritalin/methylphenidates work? They do change the dopamine metabolism and, in fact, increase arousal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate

And amphetamines are clearly addictive and they also increase sexual addictions and sexual activity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine

Ah. I didn't quite write it clearly. I got prescribed non stimulant medication, atomoxetine or more commonly known as strattera. It doesn't give you a high and does have a negative impact on the ole sex drive. It is non addictive with no crash and has had a very positive impact on my diet and life which outweigh it's side effects.
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Sounds similar to meditation/mindfulness effects.

(18 May 2022, 21:55 )Lancer Wrote: atomoxetine or more commonly known as strattera
Aha, unlike methylphenidates, which is dopamine uptake inhibitor, atomoxetine is a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, but still it causes dopamine (and, obviously, norepinephrine aka noradrenaline) increase (just like methylphenidates and amphetamines).

What I found regarding atomoxetine and sex drive, indeed, mentions loss of interest in sex, impotence and trouble having an orgasm. However, these things can also happen:

- spontaneous Ejaculation Induced with Atomoxetine (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7093725/) with no erection or orgasm.
- erections lasting more than 4 hours (priapism)
- decreased ejaculation amount, or the inability to ejaculate and painful erections (https://www.healthcentral.com/article/pr...-strattera)

And, at the same time (https://www.medicinenet.com/side_effects...ffects.htm)

Quote:Atomoxetine appears to impair sexual function in some patients. Changes in sexual desire, sexual performance, and sexual satisfaction are not well assessed in most clinical trials because they need special attention and because patients and physicians may be reluctant to discuss them. Accordingly, estimates of the incidence of untoward sexual experience and performance cited in product labeling are likely to underestimate the actual incidence. Table 4 above displays the incidence of sexual side effects reported by at least 2% of adult patients taking Strattera in placebo-controlled trials.

There are no adequate and well-controlled studies examining sexual dysfunction with Strattera treatment. While it is difficult to know the precise risk of sexual dysfunction associated with the use of Strattera, physicians should routinely inquire about such possible side effects.

In other words, anything can happen, and, if you do not like the side effects, "consult with your doctor". Something like:"Doctor, can you give me a pill to make me want to tie myself up again?" 😉
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You know this probably sounds like BDSM heresy, but I was definitely spending too much time on each bondage scene, and it was cutting into my sleep budget. Being able to completely ignore it and focus on daily life has had great improvements to quality of life. Now that everything is winding down a bit I do intend on designing some more BDSM related items to print though. It isn't so much my sex drive disappeared as much as the logic half kicked on and realized I was wasting time. Still want to do bondage, but more so just as a passive thing, like chastity while studying or bondage while sleeping. Am also planning a greater shift away from inescapable strictness to more comfortable constant ties as a result.
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#8
And we are back to the "purge syndrome" and "self-bondage is a waste of time", "waves in desires" threads! 😬

Everything goes in circles (or spirals), this is how we got to understand time.
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(18 May 2022, 23:08 )Lancer Wrote: You know this probably sounds like BDSM heresy, but I was definitely spending too much time on each bondage scene, and it was cutting into my sleep budget. Being able to completely ignore it and focus on daily life has had great improvements to quality of life. Now that everything is winding down a bit I do intend on designing some more BDSM related items to print though. It isn't so much my sex drive disappeared as much as the logic half kicked on and realized I was wasting time. Still want to do bondage, but more so just as a passive thing, like chastity while studying or bondage while sleeping. Am also planning a greater shift away from inescapable strictness to more comfortable constant ties as a result.

I was really looking forward to your 3d modelling projects being done.  Do you have plans to continue that or is that over with as well?
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(18 May 2022, 23:46 )Like Ra Wrote: And we are back to the "purge syndrome" and "self-bondage is a waste of time", "waves in desires" threads! 😬

Everything goes in circles (or spirals), this is how we got to understand time.

This is a tad bit different. The section of my brain responsible for the reward of gaming, self-bondage, porn and food just shut down completely. I have barely felt the need to eat the whole week and my gaming time went from 2 hours a day to 0 for the past week. The side effects of a weak dopamine reward system losing to the now constant increased levels of adrenaline.
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