Phytoestrogens and magic herbs

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More benefits (including skin rejuvenation and alcoholism inhibition):

A comprehensive review on Pueraria: Insights on its chemistry and medicinal value

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...2220309276
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.biopha.2020.110734


Wiki Talk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3APueraria_mirifica

Personal experience (he was 40 at the time of the experiment) : https://crossdressersociety.com/marcy-re...wth-secret
Not a clean experiment, as PM was used along with Saw Palmetto (a herbal supplements for reducing the amount of testosterone) and breast enlargement body cream. The result was a very noticeable breast development. He stopped after 5 months. Also he's affiliated with the PM supplier.

https://sissythings.com/10-feminizing-he...-estrogen/

Quote:I happen to be one sissy that is very interested in the effects this feminizing herb can have on the body. I’ve been taking 1,000mg of PM per day over the past 90 days. My skin is noticeably smoother and my nipples are more sensitive, tingling and a little sore.

A word of warning: Pueraria mirifica may cause you to gain unwanted weight. I’ve put on five fucking pounds over the past couple of weeks—no way it could’ve been the ice-cream!

This is an interesting one:

Quote:I purchased this item (4 bottles) in January 2016 and started taking 4 capsules a day a few days later on February 1. After a month I noticed my skin feels much smoother and the amount of body hair growth has slowed considerably. However, the hair on top of my head is growing faster and is much fuller and softer to the touch. Being a 60 year old straight male, I am very happy with these changes. Note that I am not attempting to transition - my goals for taking this supplement are to lessen body hair growth, reduce skin wrinkles, and improve how my skin looks. As a thin-built 165 pound, 5 foot 11 inch guy, adding a little fullness and curvature to my chest and butt would be a bonus.

It has now been almost two months taking 4 capsules a day. I noticed yesterday that my right nipple has a small lump under it now, and is very sensitive to touch (it feels great!). There is no lump under my left nipple, but expect it will happen soon. There is also very noticeable size gain on both right and left side of my chest. And to my surprise, my butt has firmed up a little and my wife says it has gotten a little bigger. Actually, at my age, I am surprised there is anything going on! I find it amazing that this stuff can actually trigger this kind of development in a guy my age. But looking in the mirror is proving it to me!

I plan to continue taking the PM, but may cut down to 2 or 3 a day – will have to see. I like all the changes so far, but don't want my chest to get too big. B-cup is plenty!

There have also been some other noticeable changes. If this makes sense, I smell a little different now. My wife says she likes how I smell, and has commented about it a few times. She has also said that my skin looks better and has a slight “glow” to it now. I can't see it, but that's what she said. And since my hair is looking so good, I am letting it grow out. The amount of grey in my hair is less now and it's taking on more of the darker blond color it was 20 years ago. My chest and leg hair is growing much more slowly, and it's much less coarse. I shave my chest (personal preference) and like the decreased body hair. The hair on my chin is also growing a lot slower.

I guess the bottom line is that this stuff really works! How well it works is an individual thing. Everyone is different. I think you will see changes too, but you have to be patient. Giving it only 30 days or only taking it sporadically will not work. You need to take them every day, and stick to it. Also be sure you're getting all the right nutrients. I take a multivitamin, vitamin E, vitamin B complex, and calcium supplements every day too. I'm sure that has helped.


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From what I found on the web (real user experience)
- the result vary from nothing to significant
- if taken with blockers PM becomes quite effective at growing breast
- dosage is individual and important
- if you are on PM most likely you will gain weight
- coffee reduces the effect
- Estrogen alone does not bring testosterone level down, it might be even the other way around (can that explain the highly energetic Thai men who take PM?) Also: https://www.medpagetoday.com/meetingcoverage/endo/46497

Apparently, PM can be indeed quite beneficial for men if the the dosage is kept relatively low. Not like 2-4g a day... Pfff...

Edit: what they take is not known, most likely it's not P. mirifica, but P. lobata, hence the huge dosage. See the post below.
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(27 Feb 2021, 17:39 )Tinker D Wrote: This is what I use. Plane and simple.
All others have fillers. And cost more.
I checked a bunch of Ali products, and the descriptions honestly say, that's what is claimed to be "P. mirifica" (aka Kwao Krue from Thailand) is actually P. Lobata (aka Kudzu from China). And they ARE different. Here's a quick summary:

https://orientalheritageherbalists.com/w...ria-labota

Or see the attached article above: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...2220309276

So, check the ingredients properly and ask the seller (not that it guarantees anything 😁 )

(27 Feb 2021, 17:39 )Tinker D Wrote: Like I said, this seems to work for me.

What are the effects you observed?
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Incredible research 😁, I'd dare to say this is the ultimate guide to purchasing PM.
While results likely will differ person to person, I can attest that some effects can be seen as a result of a daily dosing of the saw palmetto, licorice root, and other foods like tofu etc.  Was not aiming for it.  Former spouse had read the combinations were promoting various good health and started giving it to me all the time.  I guess she should have noted it was a women's journal she'd read the article in.   All I know is over those couple months, there was a change.
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(10 Apr 2021, 05:34 )chaste4panties Wrote: All I know is over those couple months, there was a change.
What for changes have you noticed?
(10 Apr 2021, 15:16 )Like Ra Wrote:
(10 Apr 2021, 05:34 )chaste4panties Wrote: All I know is over those couple months, there was a change.
What for changes have you noticed?

Nothing hugely dramatic but did seem 5 o'clock shadow occurred later, gained a few pounds, and coincidentally my doc noted t levels were lowered during a routine checkup.   actually felt less motivated to work out too.
(10 Apr 2021, 17:55 )chaste4panties Wrote: 5 o'clock shadow occurred later
That's a positive
(10 Apr 2021, 17:55 )chaste4panties Wrote: gained a few pounds
That's a negative
(10 Apr 2021, 17:55 )chaste4panties Wrote: t levels were lowered
That's expected, because saw palmetto isa T-blocker.
(10 Apr 2021, 17:55 )chaste4panties Wrote: actually felt less motivated to work out too
That might be a consequence of the low T-level.

So, indeed, something is working, and it's close to the expectation. Next question - do you like the results? 😉
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