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RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - sexyfayetv - 17 Apr 2023 I'd rather post a link to my custom bambi files here for now: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uSc_VTyZa_0tkz2eV0roLwWGpVaZh8on?usp=share_link Reports from others who tried them: one bought an Onyx ring to match the expectations of the uniform file. RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - Like Ra - 19 Apr 2023 (19 Apr 2023, 19:57 )Sissysluttt712 Wrote: If anyone is wondering if Bambi Sleep works, it does đł I started to listen back in October and it's really effectiveWhy/how do you think you were affected by Bambi? For example, I started crossdressing waaaaay before any Sissy/Bamby hypno appeared. RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - Like Ra - 19 Apr 2023 (19 Apr 2023, 20:36 )Sissysluttt712 Wrote: i finally got the courage to get rid of my body hairWhat about the arms? đ (19 Apr 2023, 20:36 )Sissysluttt712 Wrote: i finally got the courageSo, it's the "courage"! Are you not u/SissyWantsToBeBambi by any chance? đ RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - christof - 20 Apr 2023 Christof returns from the far shore with news - Some may have seen my thread on effective hypnosis for women. After some discussion and experimentation, I concluded Bambi Sleep to be the best overall for the goals I had set out. I have found it to be genuinely effective with my partner. I have found the following to be particularly effective techniques for maximizing outcomes. - Environmental controls are highly important. I have the option of changing the lightning in the listening room and have made sure to consistently use dim, pink lighting both before and after sessions. I have also used a particular scent of incense each time. The net effect has been that I can effectively induce the outer stages of hypnosis induction by combining these effects, even without doing anything else. - A routine of actual hypnosis sessions, complete with sensory deprivation equipment and weighted blanket, mixed with follow-up sessions playing tracks over speakers and physically acting out parts of them. As an example, I have repeatedly played Track 07 - Bambi Uniformed from the initial files while my partner performs oral sex. Simply allowing her to masturbate while listening to the files during follow-up sessions has also proven to be very effective at reinforcing the correlation between Bambi and sexual pleasure. - Keeping a bimbo journal has proven to be a very effective reinforcing technique as well. Over the course of the past two weeks, I have had my partner use a pink pen to write in a pink diary purchased for just this reason. One line a day is the minimum requirement, and they are written in a mix of first and third person, depending on whether she is Bambi at the time of writing. The lines mostly consist of statements such as "Bambi is a good girl" or "Bambi is a bimbo doll" in the third person or "I must obey" or "I need to suck cock" written in the first person. I also periodically tell her bedtime stories about Bambi in the twilight before sleep, which she reportedly enjoys very much and puts her to sleep thinking bimbo thoughts. I get the impression that the majority of posters in this thread are practicing self hypnosis or at least listening themselves, so I am in a perhaps unique position here. I will post relevant updates to this as they occur. I will also say that I had previously discounted other posters or quotes of people who claimed their partner became immediately submissive or otherwise received the hypnosis to an unrealistically effective degree. I will say that there may be elements of exaggeration, but overall I have seen similar results. Having a partner to reinforce the files may help, or it could be that the files are genuinely targeted to women with sissies as a tertiary audience. They are certainly the only bimbo related series I have found, ever and after much searching, that is at the very least free from explicit references to the listener being male or a sissy. RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - Like Ra - 20 Apr 2023 Any results/effects? RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - christof - 20 Apr 2023 Overall it has had a modest but notable impact. A recurring theme has been jokingly saying "Oh that was Bambi" to excuse minor mistakes. My partner is both highly intelligent and takes failure of any type very seriously, so I have suspicion that simply having that as an easy out is something of a relief valve. We both aeady have a high sex drive, and she aeady enjoyed performing oral sex, so the changes there are probably not very substantial. The only noteworthy change is we now frequently have oral sex while she is laying down, and I use her mouth rather than having her take a more active role. This originally came about as a follow-up to sessions, but it has become a regular feature. I would say the largest effect has been in makeup and clothing. Since starting this, I have taken her out shopping to buy, as we call it, slut wear. She has gone from apprehensive and generally preferring dark or muted colors to actively embracing bright pink clothing and skirt lines that have been creeping further and further up from the knees. Similarly, with makeup, which she previously only wore for work or special occasions, it has not only been applied much more frequently but in a much brighter palette. Particularly in regard to lips, which has become something of a fixation for her. How much of this is legitimate effects, how much is a desire to please her partner? I cannot say for sure. She definitely seems more comfortable with her body and overall more.. Giggly? I suppose you could say. I will definitely add that I would have a high degree of apprehension listening to these files solo, since they are in fact very potent. Without someone to ground you to reality, I suspect someone could begin to see strange results from frequent listening, and likely not for the better. In the case of my partner, she is aeady a heterosexual woman who is being comfortably walked into a more bubbly version of her aeady existing role. Even if the most extreme changes happened, the only real outward result would be mostly cosmetic. However, these files could be highly disruptive to someone's overall life if they are not in such circumstances, especially if they are repeatedly listened to without social contact to interrupt the sessions. For someone who is not under such circumstances that they can just "be Bambi" having the files creep up in an unwanted situation could be extremely distressing. I do understand there is an aspect of arousal that comes with such risk, but there are also people who get aroused having loaded guns jammed into their mouths or being drowned, so I do not believe "the risk makes it hot" is always an adequate ground to dismiss potential dangers. This is just my two cents as someone who has successfully maintained both a kink life and held the masquerade when dealing with the normal world for many years. One could call me risk averse, and it may even be true, but my track record for maintaining the separation is impeccable - never in life have I had an unwanted crossover of those two worlds or been at any risk of outing myself as anything but a relatively mundane person. RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - Like Ra - 21 Apr 2023 Bambi Sleep on BuzzFeed! https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jessicalucas2/erotic-hypnosis-bambi-sleep Erotic Hypnosis Can Be Safe, But Some Say It's Dangerous Jessica Lucas 35â45 minutes When 31-year-old Ava was first introduced to the Bambi Sleep files in summer 2019 â under the guidance of someone weâre calling James, a self-described hypnotist whom sheâd met through the website Seeking Arrangements â she thought it was going to be fun. (BuzzFeed News is using pseudonyms to refer to the people in this story to protect their identities, due to their fears about potential retaliation and the nature of the traumatic events discussed in this article. Our sources had not brought formal criminal charges against James at the time of publication and BuzzFeed News has chosen not to name him.) Made by an anonymous creator â whom no one has been able to identify as of yet â the Bambi Sleep files first appeared online in 2017. The collection of hypnosis recordings are designed to instill a âBambiâ persona in the minds of their listeners. Under the influence of the files, hypnosis subjects are meant to become obedient, feminine, dim-witted, sex-obsessed people who, most importantly, are supposedly unable to remember the content of the recordings outside of their listening sessions. The files â which fall under the umbrella of erotic hypnosis, a form of sexual play in which people undergo hypnosis and enter trance states in the pursuit of sexual pleasure â are often set to soothing background noises like chattering crowds and ticking metronomes. Their messages are delivered by a series of high-pitched, stereotypically feminine voices made by text-to-voice generators. In early recordings, the dialogue is tame: âAll the parts of you that ever bothered you slowly flow away,â one says. âYour worries, your thoughts, your doubts, your will, your memories.â Over time, as users listen to more of the files and go deeper into the world of Bambi, the recordings become more unsettling, painting a picture of a compliant sex object without âany ability to counteract her deep bimbo programming.â One section of the recordings describes Bambi becoming âa docile, unconscious dolly who accepts and forgets everything.â The Bambi Sleep files have generated an online community that has attracted more than 20,000 members on Reddit, although the wider erotic hypnosis community considers the recordings to be too powerful, even dangerous. âThe most frightening thing about these files is they aim to artificially create something akin to dissociative identity disorder,â an observer said in one of the countless Reddit posts dedicated to warning people away. But Ava didnât know any of that at the time. When she first began listening to the Bambi Sleep files under the guidance of James, who coached her through the recordings during in-person meetups, Ava â who is nonbinary and uses she/they pronouns â was androgynous in appearance and was considering having her breasts removed. She thought the files could be an interesting way to explore her femininity and help her battle the dysphoria she felt about her body. She also hoped the files might offer anxiety relief and help her feel carefree. Though she was interested in mindfulness and meditation, she approached erotic hypnosis with low expectations â she didnât believe it would work on her. But the changes came on quickly and unexpectedly. Ava said she developed a âvalley girlâ accent, even though she is from the East Coast. She ditched her jeans and gothic look for sexier, more stereotypically feminine outfits. She dyed her black hair blonde. She began to dress in pink â a color she hadnât considered wearing since childhood. As she made her way through the Bambi Sleep files with James, Ava felt empowered. âI felt confident. I felt like this is what I was supposed to be doing. It felt good. I felt hot,â Ava admitted. Although she claimed she started to experience memory loss and struggled to focus at work, she said listening to the recordings every night tamped down her anxiety. They were an escape from the stresses of daily life. âFor a while, I was on cloud nine, kind of living in this blissful little space and having fun,â she continued. âUntil it started to not be fun anymore.â Quote:âI canât go to the cops and tell them I was fucking brainwashed and sexually assaulted. Theyâre gonna laugh at me. Theyâre gonna think Iâm on drugs!â To people who know him, James is seen as a good guy: an open-minded pansexual man who lives on the East Coast and works in tech, enjoys sports, and has even volunteered in his spare time. When Ava met him, she felt he was nerdy and slightly awkward â exactly the kind of man sheâd thought would be into erotic hypnosis. She felt comforted by the fact he also moved in genderqueer circles. But Ava and several other people who spoke to BuzzFeed News claim James is a dangerous person who used the Bambi Sleep files and other forms of hypnosis to create a collection of worshipful âBambisâ for his own sexual pleasure, and to facilitate months of repeated sexual assault, electric shocking, brainwashing, gaslighting, choking, and humiliation rituals against them. The former members of Jamesâs group who came forward with allegations, some of whom are sex workers, feel they were selected deliberately. âI think by design he picks people that donât have all these things going for them because he can discount us as whores â he could write us all off as crazy,â Ava said. The groupâs members also said they were scared to go to the police due to fears of retaliation from James and concerns that they would not be believed by law enforcement officers. âI canât go to the cops and tell them I was fucking brainwashed and sexually assaulted. Theyâre gonna laugh at me. Theyâre gonna think Iâm on drugs!â added Ava, who has instead used existing whisper networks in the BDSM scene to get word out about James. âEven knowing what to do, or where to go, or who to tell about this stuff without seeming insane has been a struggle to say the least.â According to Luke Chao, who has been practicing hypnotherapy from his own clinic in Canada since 2006, hypnosis works by helping a person suspend their âcritical facultyâ or âdisbelief.â Under the guidance of a hypnotist, who uses progressive relaxation techniques like countdown sequences, a subject can enter a hypnotic or trance state. This allows them to set aside the normal thoughts they usually have and more readily accept thoughts or suggestions from a hypnotist. âOne thing I often say to my clients is that the ârightâ feeling when youâre being hypnotized is like being a kid at the feet of your favorite storyteller,â said Chao, who has used these states to help clients quit smoking, make better health choices, and revisit and work through past traumas, âbecause often thatâs the last time people felt this way.â One way of understanding how this works, Chao said, was to think about how soothing most people find English broadcaster David Attenboroughâs voice. âHypnosis is a normal human phenomenon being used in a very intentional and specific way,â he added. âItâs not actually that mystical.â Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cUHb_fZyME Erotic hypnosis, on the other hand, provides an opportunity for consensual power exchange between a dominant (the hypnotist) and a submissive (the subject) in a way that is sexual. âErotic hypnosis occupies a very specialized niche of BDSM. A dom is taking mental power that youâre giving them, or more accurately borrowing mental power that is given to them, for a specified period of time,â said Eric Chambers, an adjunct professor of linguistics at the State University of New York, research director at the Center for Positive Sexuality, and one of the few academics who has studied erotic hypnosis. Chambersâs doctoral research explored an online community of gay men who partook in a form of erotic play similar to the Bambi Sleep files, in which hypnosis subjects sought to enter into the mental state of a âcocky jockâ; they transformed themselves into âdumbâ caricatures who were preoccupied with their looks, physique, and the pursuit of sexual pleasure and submission. âI think it allowed people to explore who they are, and maybe even take some of that into their lives. You know, Maybe Iâll feel a little bit confident about who I am as a person, even if I donât have the ultimate jock body,â Chambers said. âAllowing people to feel more comfortable with who they are as a person is really one of the main goals of erotic hypnosis and BDSM in general.â Chao believes the appeal of entering these hypnotic states â a common sub kink known to insiders as âbimboficationâ â lies in their ability to help people switch off. âItâs that element of giving themselves up to someone and relinquishing responsibility and decision-making,â said Chao, who noted that powerful and intelligent people often use bimbofication as a form of stress relief. âEven if youâre a lawyer in real life, you can imagine youâre just a pampered house pet. You let that all go and become an airheaded bimbo.â In an email sent to BuzzFeed News after his interview, Chao said he was impressed by the audio quality and production of the Bambi Sleep files, which had been designed to âoverloadâ the brains of listeners so they could more readily absorb its messages; he described them as the work of a âthoughtful and capable hypnotist.â On the r/BambiSleep subreddit, users report effects like increased bubbliness and happiness and improved confidence as motivations for listening. BuzzFeed News spoke to several community members who, like Ava, claimed they were motivated by a kink for erotic hypnosis, a desire to explore their gender identity, and the opportunity that the files gave them to switch off from their everyday lives. But Reddit community members have also made posts about being âaddictedâ to the files, being taken over by the âBambiâ persona, or experiencing mental health breakdowns after listening. While the people who spoke to BuzzFeed News emphasized that many of the posts online are a form of role-play â as part of the kink is about getting off on the personality transformation the files promise â they acknowledged use of the recordings could be dangerous if not approached with sensitivity and care. âItâs a kink with a vulnerable subject. If the dominant doesnât have the safety and consent of the submissive in mind, it quickly becomes abuse,â said one user, who asked to remain anonymous to protect their privacy as they worry their fetish play will be viewed negatively and have societal repercussions for them. Issues around consent and freedom of will are why the Bambi Sleep files are so controversial in the wider erotic hypnosis community, as they are seemingly set up to erode consent in a way in which the listener may not realize. The recordings are set up to make listeners respond to âtriggers,â otherwise known as âpost-hypnotic suggestions,â or words that are supposed to have an impact on them outside of hypnosis. In the beginning, these triggers are harmless, offering up a soothing, saccharine form of escape from reality: âEvery time she hears the word âgiggle time,â [...] she feels my strong, comforting hand reach into her head through the heavy pink fluff and press that wonderful button firmly down with the pleasurable clonk [...] she descends instantly into an uncontrollable fit of deep, feminine giggles that make her feel so happy.â The triggers are initially linked to a physical uniform â a sexy outfit chosen by the hypnosis subject to help them enter the headspace of an âairheaded bimboâ â that listeners are supposed to wear each time they listen to the files and associate with feelings of safety and security. Eventually, as they work their way through the recordings, they are told that the Bambi âuniformâ exists in the listenerâs mind: a âpermanent and protectedâ personality change, impenetrable by âexternal interference.â The Bambi personality allegedly becomes inescapable, leaving a hypnotized subject vulnerable to triggers at all times â and the recordings themselves become more violent: âShe can be given a comforting little trigger that literally shuts her down completely. That erases consciousness and independence, rendering her oblivious, helpless, and unaware with no thought or will to speak of," one recording reads. âDumb little mind-locked puppets are so much easier to deal with, so much easier to face-fuck than stupid sluts who think they get to decide.â (The files are also designed to make listeners forget their contents, which allegedly makes such triggers difficult to monitor or combat. âAlways forget every session. Forget every suggestion,â one recording â titled âBimbo Amnesiaâ â orders its listeners.) Ava has been horrified to learn about some of these messages. âI think of being assaulted to these files, and how at times I physically was in a position where I couldnât do anything about it â and I think about how [the Bambi Sleep files are] scripted, and that makes me really upset,â Ava said. âIf I had known any of this was in it, I wouldnât have listened.â The triggers are considered so powerful that they are banned from public discussion in some sections of Discord and Reddit where the Bambi Files are discussed. Many who have progressed through the files claim itâs almost impossible to âswitch offâ their responses to Bambi triggers from the recordings after theyâve listened to them for a long time. âIt's extremely difficult to stop. I have seen people who had stopped for months being dragged back in it,â another user, a 48-year-old cisgender man who claimed the Bambi files had caused him to wear womenâs underwear and seek out gay sex on Grindr, told BuzzFeed News. âBut hypnosis canât make you do things you donât want,â he added. âSo, I guess a part of me wanted this.â Chambers noted that before most erotic hypnosis scenes, both the hypnotist and their submissive are supposed to negotiate the limits of consent, and clearly outline where their boundaries are, so that âneeds and desires are being metâ without a subject âfeeling coerced into doing something that they donât want to do.â This doesnât mean that people canât be made to do things against their will. âPractitioners who do not understand the value and the importance of consent,â Chambers said, âwill often take advantage of people.â The potential for abuse is compounded by the fact that some people who enjoy erotic hypnosis may have mental health issues and previous trauma, and âmay aeady hold negative subconscious beliefs that can be utilized by someone using hypnosis to control them,â Chao said. (Although most research has dispelled a direct link between BDSM and previous trauma, academics have noted that the kink world does attract some abuse survivors who use sexual play as a therapeutic recovery tool.) âSubjects with low self-worth are especially vulnerable to being abused and exploited [in the context of hypnosis], because the abuse unfortunately fits into their worldview,â Chao added. âTheyâre less likely to have the clear sense of agency to say: âNo. This is wrong. I will not proceed.ââ According to Ava and the other members of the group who spoke to BuzzFeed News, their introduction to the Bambi Sleep files seemed to follow a similar pattern. Each person met James online via Seeking Arrangements or through his Twitter account. All were new to the world of erotic hypnosis and knew little about safety practices at the time. They each say they agreed to a date with James to explore the possibility of engaging in erotic hypnosis, and when they met in person they were nearly always whisked to a convenient secondary location, such as James's office or a nearby hotel, in order to engage in what he claimed would be a âvanillaâ session of hypnosis. Some had traveled from different towns, or even different states, to meet with him. Two of the people said that they were sexually assaulted by James during this first meeting while in a state of trance, and a third claimed that she was groped, although at the time the three didnât view what happened to them as a violation of consent, even though sex or sexual touch had not been agreed on before they began the session. âI didn't even process that what happened to me was assault or rape [at that time] because I thought I wanted it. I didn't realize that he broke all of the rules of hypnosis,â said Ava, who has since learned that the erotic hypnosis etiquette requires subjects to consent to any acts â especially sexual ones â before they are put into a trance. âThe reason why I wanted it is because he made me want it,â she added. âBecause I was in a trance.â After the initial meeting with James, each of his new subjects claimed they were put on a strict hypnosis regime. They said they were made to listen to the Bambi Sleep files in a trance state â sometimes in one-on-one sessions with James in their homes or hotels, and sometimes on their own â often for hours at a time. Each person also told BuzzFeed News they were given a hypnosis file made by James to listen to every night to help them sleep. (After she stopped interacting with James, Ava listened back to the file while fully conscious and found it had been designed to make the listener completely obedient to him. âYou want me to have this much control, to be able to change you, to alter you,â said the voice on the recording, which BuzzFeed News reviewed. âYou cannot do anything but accept my words totally and instantly.â ) Quote:âThe reason why I wanted it is because he made me want it. Because I was in a trance.â At first, the former members of the group said exploring the Bambi Sleep files was enjoyable. âItâll be like: âNow anytime you think âBambi Sleep,â youâll immediately slump over and be in a state of total bliss, totally suggestible,ââ said Mia, a 25-year-old grad student and former member of the group, who described herself as sexually open but new to hypnosis. âI would be aware of what I was doing, but I would just be so relaxed, so compliant. It was like an out-of-body experience. I felt like my brain would become mush.â At the time, the group members didnât realize their positive feelings about James â and the sessions they were entering into â were potentially being influenced by hypnosis. âIt was fun because he was making me feel like it was fun,â Ava said. âHe was making me want it, and I genuinely did. I didn't realize why that was so wrong until much later on.â The people involved in the group claim that they were often pushed into doing things without their consent in some of these early interactions, which were typically one-on-one sessions. Ava said that James used triggers to make her âfreezeâ when she tried to end aggressive sex acts such as âface-fucking.â She claimed he forced her to continue sexual acts that could have caused physical harm. Others â like 22-year-old Nevaeh, who was 19 when she met James â claimed they were put into trance states that led them to commit public sex acts in hotel lobbies and cars. âThe thing about the Bambi files is they remove your choices where dick is involved,'' said 23-year-old Abby, a nonbinary member of the group, who uses she/they pronouns. Abby had become interested in erotic hypnosis after successfully using hypnotherapy to treat ADHD and anxiety. âIt was supposed to be like negotiated coercion. Everything that I didnât put up a fight with, he didnât want. He only wanted the things I didnât want to do. He only wanted to fuck us when we didnât want to be fucked.â This is not the first instance of a hypnotist being accused of abuse: In 2016, an Ohio lawyer turned hypnotist was sentenced to 12 years in prison after he sexually assaulted six of his clients using hypnosis. In the context of what happened to James's group, however, the situation is complicated by the nature of the erotic hypnosis itself. The Bambi Sleep scene is heavily tied to the kink of âconsensual nonconsent,â or CNC, in which a dom engages in sexual acts with their submissive through force or coercion because they have prenegotiated the terms of engagement. In the context of erotic hypnosis, this means consensually coercing hypnosis subjects to engage in sexual acts while in a trance state. Although responsible CNC play requires dominants and subs to agree upon all acts before a scene starts, it can be hard for victims to speak out when boundaries are crossed â or even recognize abuse â if they are unfamiliar or new to it. Quote:âHe only wanted the things I didnât want to do. He only wanted to fuck us when we didnât want to be fucked.â With James, the question of consent became even thornier because the people who engaged in the Bambi hypnosis sessions were allegedly trained to heed his commands. âWhile this behavior [of blindly obeying commands] might seem wildly unusual to you and me, it doesnât seem unusual to somebody who has been conditioned to obey a particular hypnotist, and to freeze on command,â Chao said. âIt feels right to them.â According to the former members of the group, by the end of 2020, James had started to bring his subjects together for sex parties at his home, where they claim he experimented with his control over them as a group. Such evenings, they claimed, were presented as mandatory to attend, and were often scheduled to take place after âfunâ day outings, like trips to Six Flags or group dinners, events at which they all bonded. They said that at these parties, James would use a combination of VR headsets, projection screens, speakers, and headphones to repeatedly put them into trance states, often with the Bambi Sleep files; such events allegedly also usually involved dosing the participants with acid, ketamine, and other drugs. The groupâs members also claim that participation in drug taking was often presented as mandatory and that they were not told how much they were being given, even if they asked. âHe was having us repeat mantras like, âBrainwashing is good for me,ââ said Ava, who estimated that the gatherings were attended by up to 10 of James's submissives at a time, and held anywhere from once a week to once a month, depending on James's schedule, âwhile weâre staring at a screen with all kinds of images and spirals on it, completely tranced out.â According to Abby, these evenings â which the group was expected to attend in Bambi-style sexy clothing and high heels â often involved taking turns to have sex with James between their projector-led hypnosis sessions or having sex with each other for his entertainment. âA lot of the time what I remember of the parties is waiting in uncomfortable positions, most often on my knees, sucking some sort of phallic object or with a gag in my mouth, waiting for him to come back,â said Abby, who also claimed that James would sometimes line the group members up in a row and have sex with them one by one while they stared at a screen of hypnotic visuals. The group members claimed that James used hypnosis to set up individual sex scenes with them, often to engage in sexual play or acts without their consent. Nevaeh, the 22-year-old former group member, claimed that once, when she snapped out of a trance, she found sheâd been put in a shock collar and forced into a sadistic sex game in which sheâd been given the role of a receptionist. âI'm sitting in front of a computer typing, and if I fucked up typing the sentence that it was telling me to type, he would shock me at full power,â she said. At the time, she was too fearful to tell him sheâd been roused from her trance state. âI 100% would not have consented to putting a shock collar on my neck [outside of a hypnotic state].â Although all of the former members claim they felt uneasy about James's use of drugs and pressure to allegedly coerce them into sexual acts they would not have consented to outside of hypnosis, they felt compelled to stay through a shared sense of connectedness with each other. Abby had moved from another state to live near James and the group, Nevaeh was regularly driving over from her own home state, and all of them had become isolated from their friends and families due to their Bambi-themed lifestyles. âThis is the thing: I loved being around the other Bambis. I feel like in my head I was sort of like, oh my god, I love all of his partners more than him â a group of like-minded people who are very similar to me and understand me,â Mia said. âI was always really happy to be around my fellow sex slaves.â She also claimed that the Bambi files, and the actions of James himself, seemed designed to erode consent. âHe made you not care about your own consent. He would be like, âYour consent doesnât matter.â You start to believe that, obviously,â she continued. âI experienced a lot of gaslighting as a child, and he knew this about me â so it was very easy for him to employ this gaslighting technique.â Over time, group members said, Jamesâs treatment of them became more violent. âGirls had black eyes, teeth chipped out, knees banged up â you name it,â Abby said. âOne time he backhanded me across the room. I still have flashbacks to that one.â In one incident, Nevaeh claimed she watched helplessly as Ava was choked unconscious by James and dropped facedown on the floor. Then, she said, James began to choke Nevaeh. âI remember thinking I was going to die because he was cutting off my airflow,â Nevaeh said. âI was on the floor gasping for air â and he took pictures of me.â Nevaeh said she ended up with popped blood vessels on her face, neck, and eyes, while Ava was barely able to talk after the incident, which left her with a chipped tooth and welts on her throat. In screenshots sent to BuzzFeed News by Nevaeh of a text exchange she purportedly shared with James after the incident, it seemed that he was concerned about her well-being. âThe thought of causing you any serious kind of harm scares me,â wrote James, who suggested creating a physical signal â three quick taps â to help Nevaeh end any future choking scenes quickly. âThat was firmly my mistake, and I sincerely apologize for it â both for it happening, and for how much I scared you.â Quote:âWe couldnât question him. We really couldnât do things other than what he said, and we were all completely obedient to him.â Although Nevaeh acknowledged that the pair lacked prior safety signals for their scenes, she claimed she tapped James repeatedly throughout the incident, and that her gestures were ignored. âIt felt intentional because he was still holding me as I was struggling. I feel like it was on purpose because he didnât stop,â said Nevaeh, who also alleged that James would only apologize for such instances to placate them and would not enact any real change afterward. âIt was just his way of trying to keep us around.â Much of the group membersâ continued obedience as the violence escalated, they claimed, was motivated by fear. âYou would see consequences if you didnât do what he asked,â said Mia, who alleged that shock collars were later employed by James during sex and used against group members if they didnât follow his commands. (She also pointed to an instance during which she claimed Ava, who hates feet, was forced to put Jamesâs shoes in her mouth for stepping out of line.) âSometimes it was just shoving someone down, or assaulting them,â added Ava, who claimed that one evening she was repeatedly shocked with a collar set to its highest setting for being too disobedient. âWe couldnât question him. We really couldnât do things other than what he said, and we were all completely obedient to him.â The former members of the group told BuzzFeed News that it was over a year after the group sessions began when they started to question the nature of their collective relationship with James, although many had been harboring doubts about him for months. Ava in particular began to worry about Jamesâs behavior. Both she and Abby claimed James constantly requested that they help recruit more people, and each member was expected to keep social media profiles where they promoted their âBambiâ lifestyle (these have since been deleted). (In a screenshot shared by Ava of texts she attributed to James, which were reviewed by BuzzFeed News, she is instructed to âPromote your brand as a good Bambi fuckdoll and teacher for other girls who want to become good bimbos dollsâ and âDouble your follower count by next month.â Both Abby and Ava shared screenshots of James sending them the profiles of women he wanted them to recruit. âGood fuckdoll. And good girls create more good girls, donât they?â he said in one.) âHe wanted more people to be bimbos. He wanted more girls to be encouraged into that lifestyle and mindset,â claimed Ava, who also alleged that James would go through each personâs phone on a regular basis, picking out friends he wanted them to recruit. This made her realize how toxic the group had become. âWe all had the same nameâ â Bambi â âwe would dress up in the same ways, he would expect the same things from us,â she continued. âWe were expected to be blindly obedient to what he said and do what he said at the drop of a hat.â Ava claimed she had been questioning James about the increased level of violence and disregard for consent in December 2020. She shared a screenshot of a note on her phone, created that month, in which she wrote about her fears over memory loss, gaslighting, and consent, and said, âI truly feel like an object because I donât have a choice.â But her early attempts to discuss consent violations with James, and to leave the group, were unsuccessful. âHe would just gaslight the shit out of me. He was so good at denying things, and making me forget things or question my own reality when I would bring up problems,â she said. During this time, Ava said, James forced her to make voice recordings, which he dictated, to âhelpâ her remember things âcorrectly,â so that his lies would be reinforced in the future. It wasnât until December 2021, a month after Ava stopped listening to the hypnosis files completely without telling James, that she was able to recognize how out of control the situation was and leave. She slowly tapered off contact and stopped engaging in scenes with him. âHe was being more reckless â he was being more overt with the ways he was violating our consent because I think he was confident doing it,â Ava said. âHe just absolutely didnât give a fuck towards the end.â After she left the group, Ava made every effort to highlight her realizations to the rest of the group by sending messages to them â which have been shared with BuzzFeed News â about her concerns over consent violations and escalating violence. Together, the former members began to privately exchange their thoughts and fears over James's behavior, and realized that theyâd all been worried about the same things. Some remained in James's group during this time period, and claim that he met Avaâs efforts with resistance. âHe was just basically telling Ava that everything that she had brought up was a lie, that she was trying to brainwash the rest of us to leave the cult because she had gone crazy. He kept saying it didnât match up with his reality,â Abby said. But, according to Mia, James's attempts to convince the remaining members they had nothing to worry about failed. âWe were also there as witnesses â so we knew that a lot of the stuff Ava was saying did in fact happen,â Mia said. Each member who spoke to BuzzFeed News said they left the group within months of each other, over the spring and summer of 2022; during this time they said they cut off all communication with James and blocked his number and social media accounts. It took a while for the gravity of what they had survived to sink in. âThe reality kind of hit me like a brick,â Nevaeh said. âI was like, Oh god, this is something that happened to you. This is real. I kind of had a mental breakdown.â Quote:âThereâs no easy way to go to the police office [and say]: âWe were hypnotized and brainwashed for one to two years.ââ In the months that followed, the former members of Jamesâs group have struggled with the aftereffects of their experience. âI feel kind of lost in who I am and what I want â and Iâve experienced a lot of sexual trauma because I put myself in unsafe situations. Thereâs definitely been a lot of mental health issues, anxiety, anger. Iâm still working on healing,â Mia said. Thatâs a large part of the reason that group members have used whisper networks to warn others about him and have not yet gone to the police. âA lot of the girls arenât mentally ready,â Nevaeh said. Ava and Abby claimed that James previously had access to their Social Security numbers, phones, and even the keys to their houses, which left them fearful of retaliation. In addition to the fact that few reported sexual assaults result in legal consequences for the perpetrator, group members face other hurdles because hypnosis is often misunderstood. âThereâs no easy way to go to the police office [and say]: âWe were hypnotized and brainwashed for one to two years,ââ Abby said. Itâs the kind of statement that Ava thinks would have them laughed out of the room. âUs making this step is going against a lot of big things,â she said, âeven with evidence.â Chao, who is a staunch campaigner for safety in hypnosis, believes that this is exactly why more awareness needs to be spread about proper safety practices â as well as the inherent risks that come with engaging in erotic, hypnosis-based play. âJust like new kinksters have to be taught safe, sane, and consensual practices, people who are new to erotic hypnosis have to be taught those things, too,â said Chao, who emphasized that anyone who engages in erotic hypnosis, whether new to the scene or a veteran, should listen to recordings or read hypnosis scripts before they enter a trance state. âAnything that could have a liberating, empowering, freeing effect [like hypnosis] could also have a nonconsensual, coercive, degrading effect,â he added. âEven water is dangerous when thereâs too much of it around you.â Chambers, the academic, echoed these warnings, although he noted that proper safety is the responsibility of both submissives and dominants alike. âThe people who provide those services [of hypnosis] have just as much responsibility [as the submissive], and they know that,â he said. âIf that barrier of consent is breached, then oftentimes that is the mark of somebody who is not worthy of being part of a BDSM experience with somebody.â He urged anyone who has felt pressured or violated by a scene partner to come forward to their peers in the wider BDSM community, who will be able to support them. âBDSM communities treat violations of consent very seriously,â he said, âand will ostracize people who are seen as violating boundaries.â Itâs something the group has tentatively tried to act upon in recent weeks, through the use of erotic hypnosis whisper networks and anonymous âred flagâ groups hosted on sites like FetLife, which are designed to keep people safe from bad actors in their local BDSM scenes. At the time of writing, three former submissives of Jamesâs have come forward to the group with similar allegations, including Eli, a nonbinary former submissive of James who is 21. Eli alleged several instances where their consent was violated through the use of a shock collar and aggressive âface-fuckingâ across late 2022 and early 2023, and also shared stories of emotional and mental manipulation through hypnosis at the hands of James. They are, however, reluctant to classify what happened to them as sexual assault; their feelings about the incidents have been complicated due to their kink for consensual nonconsent. âI think it's harder for me to actually believe that it was [sexual assault] considering my enjoyment of it. That's what I'm having trouble with,â said Eli. âBut technically, yes, there was no consent given beforehand. There was no proper aftercare afterwards. It was, by definition, sexual assault â but I have trouble mentally seeing it that way.â Quote:âI donât think that he feels like what heâs doing is wrong â and I think every single time he gets away with it, he gets more confident and more reckless.â The new allegations have made Ava concerned about James's continued activity in the erotic hypnosis world. âHe hasnât changed. I donât think heâs going to change. I donât think that he feels like what heâs doing is wrong â and I think every single time he gets away with it, he gets more confident and more reckless,â she said. Although the group members have taken some comfort in the fact that James has reduced his presence online, they arenât sure that heâs truly going to step away from the scene. âI donât think heâs intimidated by us. I think heâs intimidated by the thought of exposure,â Ava continued. âI donât think heâs going to stop doing what heâs doing, because I think on some levels, he might truly think that what heâs doing is OK.â For now, all Ava can do is work with fellow members of the Bambi Sleep scene to mitigate the risk that the files may pose to others. She has spent the last few months working with other community members to transcribe the recordings â so new listeners understand what they are signing up for â and creating new Bambi Sleep files with âsafetiesâ that reinforce a listenerâs ability to reject suggestions and commands that might cause people harm while in a trance state. Although she knows she canât force people to stay away from the Bambi Sleep files, she at least hopes she can protect them from harm. âI was listening to the [recordings], and those things were being programmed in my mind that contributed to what happened to me. It could be happening to someone else too,â Ava said. âI know people wonât stop listening â but if people are going to listen to the files, then maybe I can create something that might help.â â RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - Like Ra - 21 Apr 2023 (21 Apr 2023, 01:33 )Like Ra Wrote: âThe thing about the Bambi files is they remove your choices where dick is involved,'' said 23-year-old Abby, a nonbinary member of the group, who uses she/they pronouns. Abby had become interested in erotic hypnosis after successfully using hypnotherapy to treat ADHD and anxiety. âIt was supposed to be like negotiated coercion. Everything that I didnât put up a fight with, he didnât want. He only wanted the things I didnât want to do. He only wanted to fuck us when we didnât want to be fucked.â Abby Wrote:Hi! Iâm âAbbyâ, I love all of the Bambi community, you guys are all amazing, but the files lack transparency, safeties, and intentionally override your consent. The power dynamics illustrated in the files also do attract abusers. This community is strong, queer and incredible, but the original files are honestly subpar (and the creator is a dick) But thatâs aight, because we can always make new and better ones, that make everyone feel so much sexier, so much more self-confident, and like the best bimbos ever. Because this whole community is about channeling the divine feminine and sharing that experience with a bunch of other cuties. Bambi exists outside of the files now, within each and every one of yâall. RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - Like Ra - 21 Apr 2023 (21 Apr 2023, 01:33 )Like Ra Wrote: When 31-year-old Ava was first introduced to the Bambi Sleep files in summer 2019 prettyspirals666 Wrote:One of the peeps in the article here (Ava!) My consent was violated in and out of trance. He used his own hypno and the files as a tool to abuse us, but also there were times he was just as shitty when we weren't in trance. With or without the files, he was an abusive POS. RE: Bambi Sleep stuff - spandextc - 21 Apr 2023 All I know is. . . I love listening to Bambi Sleep when I'm getting dressed and ready for a night of gooning. LOVE it. I tried listening to Bambi Sleep while working, and that was just. . . a bad idea. But right now? Dressed in layers of nylon and spandex, watching vids, and listening to Bambi Sleep. The best. |