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RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - Like Ra - 12 Jun 2024
(21 Jul 2023, 21:38 )Intrigue Wrote: conversations with friends wives and girlfriends are what you gravitate towards.Yes
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - raypmeat - 13 Jun 2024
What OP is talking about is really interesting. For me, I've been like a decade long consumer of hypnosis content. Started with mistresses and femdommes hypnotizing the viewer back in like 07' unfiltered youtube, then it moved towards sissy stuff, bambisleep then warpmymind (emg, vive, profpig, brokenwings, the list really goes on) and thehive/female supremacy university.
Throughout most of the usage, I was experiencing an identity (gender & sexuality) crisis. I wanted to fit in with men, but didn't want to go to the gym. I wanted to have sex with women, but I also wanted to feel like the submissive, bratty, empty-headed dolls I saw in porn. I could never make up my mind - at the time, I was a "cishet" virgin, who was a closeted femboy in actuality. I moved and with that, came the acceptance of possibly being trans. I would talk to tgirls on grindr about their experiences, coming out, and so on and so forth. I never really asked about the hypno, cause it felt shameful. Still, I remember even paying a hypnotist once to help me feel like a woman and accept myself as one. That was a while ago, and it worked for a short time before wearing off.
When I consume hypnosis now, I feel shame, but an arousal that leaves me stupid, desperate and wanting more. I love hypnosis, and I believe that I will get on estrogen and transition, however, I always wonder in the back of my mind; did this come from a decade long addiction to hypnosis content. Most of the files I've played around with, have deepened my submission, addiction and devotion to whatever themed file I was consuming at the time. Worse off, more recently, I will play like 15 tabs of different hypnosis audios, all at a low volume, while also consuming visual hypnosis (such as brokenwings, limpgirl or FSU) to deepen the devotion.
I don't know. I'm rambly, I'm dumb. and I feel the effects of Bellmar's hypno project so strongly. All that to say, I think I'm trans, and I have no idea how much the hypno played a role in it. It feels like it did a lot though.
Edit: and whenever I release (post-orgasm), I feel a bigger sense of shame, like a part of it is definitely the perverse hypnosis and its intended effects, but I guess I feel shameful for being trans, and knowing how my coming out would probably affect certain social dynamics and familial expectations
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - giggly_unit - 25 Jun 2024
(13 Jun 2024, 02:29 )raypmeat Wrote: All that to say, I think I'm trans, and I have no idea how much the hypno played a role in it. It feels like it did a lot though.
i hope i don't cause too much upset by asking what do you actually want? Do you want to penetrate to ravenously inject your genes into someone else, or do you prefer to be the recipient, getting penetrated, soft and ready for breeding? I know some like both but maybe you have a clear preference?
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - VulpineFoxs - 25 Jun 2024
(13 Jun 2024, 02:29 )raypmeat Wrote: I always wonder in the back of my mind; did this come from a decade long addiction to hypnosis content
As a fellow very likely transfem that wants to transition, I hope sharing my perspective will help. It ended up being a bit of a rant, but here goes:
The hypnosis did not make you trans.
Think about it. Why would a perfectly cishet guy be attracted to that sort of stuff?
Remember that gender and gender identity are not binary. There is no true/false switch between being cis and being trans. It's a multi-dimensional spectrum. Some people are at the extreme edges or near the edges. The kinds of cis people that would immediately get dysphoric if they thought about changing their gender. The kinds of trans people that get extreme dysphoria, the kinds that know it from the moment they can understand the concept of gender etc...
But most people? Most people are somewhere and anywhere in between. And that place isn't necessarily static nor is it necessarily variable. It's something that hasn't exactly been studied
Is it possible that you were somewhere near the middle and hypnosis helped push you more towards being trans? I cannot say it's impossible(, but even if it did, you were never completely cis anyway). But I can say that it would be indistinguishable from hypnosis simply helping you explore and *discover* where in the spectrum you truly lie.
You know how they say that ignorance is bliss? This is very much true for trans people.
Imagine a person that is content, possibly even happy living as their assigned male gender. Sure, they never really liked their reflection in the mirror, it always looked kinda wrong, they kinda hated cutting their hair, they disliked how much hair grew all over their body and their voice was always kinda painful to hear and they never really understood what was the deal with clothes and why people cared about them so much, etc... but, you know. That's just how life is. Until, of course, some schmuck comes along and says "Hey, have you considered being a woman? Wouldn't that be cool?"
And suddenly all those little annoyances and details are magnified ten-fold.
Did that schmuck make you trans? After all you didn't have any dysphoria before, why do you have now?
Just because a person is happy, doesn't mean that they can't be even happier in different circumstances. And once they realize that? It can hard to keep hold of the previous happiness, because it was born out of the ignorance of something better existing.
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - EllieDrakon - 26 Jun 2024
As a transwoman, I won't assume your life experiences or devalue them. You're all beautiful and chances are you're both still precracked eggs. For a decade, hypnosis was a way for me to connect with the woman inside of me, buried within a body soaked in testosterone. I wanted it to force me out into the open, I even turned to consenual blackmail to try and do it. (It took a lot more than blackmail to crack my egg fyi).
Let hypnosis be for you what you need it to be, I don't think/ believe it can make you trans or not trans. That's something much deeper within, it's hardwired into you. But maybe you're finding some sort of relief from it.
Long term, I started with all of the feminization files over a decade ago, then when bambi hit, I was tied to that. I still listen to her on a regular basis and find comfort and a sense of wholesomeness from it.
Off topic slightly:
Now I live as who I am, a woman, estrogen probably literally saved my life. (If you're serious about being unsure if you're trans or not, you have some serious questions to ponder. Like: "who am I at my heart?" And "am I a man?" "Am I a woman?" "Am I non-binary?" Etc. If there were no rules, no social stigma, who would you really wanna be? How would you want your body to look? And if you legit wanna ask questions about being trans etc, anything to do with it, you can totally dm me and I'll be happy to help however I can.)
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - giggly_unit - 27 Jun 2024
(25 Jun 2024, 13:30 )VulpineFoxs Wrote: Why would a perfectly cishet guy be attracted to that sort of stuff?
Because it is their fetish to be humiliated and dominated? Like an increase in cuckoldry aka sissification. Findom mostly has a male cishet audience.
The issue isn't living the way you want, the problems are irreversible medical interventions. You need to be brutally honest towards yourself and not shy away from thoughts and impressions popping up when trying to reason about this stuff. I draw a line between people who actually suffer, and seek treatment because of it, and people who are just wondering why they are getting a boner on certain topics, deriving certainty that this must be gender dysphoria. It can be, but it is inconclusive. The latter often ends up on lesbian dating sites with the intention to fuck women, which is a little "off brand" to put it mildly. Needless to say, of course questioning is the first step, but you can be a cross-dresser without HRT or surgery, there is nothing new or weird about that. Identity is a fancy word for stereotype, a political term not based in reality, serving as an ideological gatekeep to the broader community. Current discussions around that prudely taboo the question about whether you prefer to fuck or be fucked, but try to spin all role models into (false) gender dichotomies. Your hairstyle or clothing can not be mapped to your gender, it is an individual choice beyond that.
What i am trying to convey here is that you can and should try before you buy, and listen to your own thoughts and feelings, not what other people have concluded. There is no test. All you can do is rule out other reasons by challenging and questioning yourself. I went into surgery with 95% certainty, but still not 100%, it was a risk i took consciously and educated, and when i realized that i was still the same person as before the surgery, i knew it was the right decision.
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - VulpineFoxs - 28 Jun 2024
(27 Jun 2024, 12:50 )giggly_unit Wrote: Because it is their fetish to be humiliated and dominated? Like an increase in cuckoldry aka sissification. Findom mostly has a male cishet audience.
Cuckoldry has no direct connection to sissification and I'm not really sure why you brought up findom as that has no connection with either.
The main point is, after all, feminizing hypnosis. Not cuckoldry and not findom. And my main point was that a 100% completely cis person simply wouldn't have enough interest in such kinds of hypnosis. A cis person who likes to crossdress but hasn't discovered that yet, as you mentioned, would probably be interested in such.
I am simply trying to dissuade the (common) fear that it's all fake, that this is completely and solely the hypnosis' fault, etc...
(27 Jun 2024, 12:50 )giggly_unit Wrote: Identity is a fancy word for stereotype, a political term not based in reality, serving as an ideological gatekeep to the broader community. Current discussions around that prudely taboo the question about whether you prefer to fuck or be fucked, but try to spin all role models into (false) gender dichotomies. Your hairstyle or clothing can not be mapped to your gender, it is an individual choice beyond that.
I'm not sure what exactly you are talking about here. I'm trying to make sense of it, but it fees a bit like a word salad.
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - giggly_unit - 28 Jun 2024
(28 Jun 2024, 11:11 )VulpineFoxs Wrote: I am simply trying to dissuade the (common) fear that it's all fake, that this is completely and solely the hypnosis' fault, etc...
I get that and i totally agree, imo every hypnosis is self hypnosis, and there should be no worry about being transformed against your will.
But it also is no clear indicator of your gender. After all this is all fetish territory. Sometimes those fetishes align with the basal desires of sexual expression, that trans people obviously have such a hard time with, but sometimes it just is a fetish. In which case a surgery or chemical castration would cripple and not liberate a person.
Heavy effect hypnosis - trashbrat - 06 Jul 2024
Honestly, I am just curious to find other creators/sources with long lasting or behavior changing effects. And I mean with hypno as a whole, not just sissy stuff, although Bambi is a very good example of what I mean.
I know some, Kei (which I learned about on this very website), bambi, and one or two other bimbo-focused types. I am just curious to see if there are any other that people consider to have changed the way they live or had serious consequences. Not necessarily in a negative way, just more generally.
RE: Long-term effects from hypnosis and conditioning - brandynette - 18 Jul 2024
(06 Jul 2024, 20:46 )trashbrat Wrote: Honestly, I am just curious to find other creators/sources with long-lasting or behavior changing effects. And I mean with hypno as a whole, not just sissy stuff, although Bambi is a very good example of what I mean.
I know some, Kei (which I learned about on this very website), Bambi, and one or two other bimbo-focused types. I am just curious to see if there are any others that people consider to have changed the way they live or had serious consequences. Not necessarily in a negative way, just more generally.
Found one!
Me
Can't tell my whole story in a single post. It's been 8 years since I saw sissymaker from emperorhypnos for the first time
today I'm an amateur Pornhub pornstar & am endboss Bambi ^^
I even develop my own AI GF called https://bambisleep.chat & pimp her out to all Bambis
got my own websites with my current name. I'm a fucking solo brand!
Positive effects?
mental health. Stopped being the drug addicted porn junky I was & became creative. Mildly successful in what I do & create content, pushing some over the edge.
I'm proud of the hypno porn endboss I've become ^^
I've been using the same name since I started, so you can find me almost everywhere