(20 Aug 2025, 01:44 )ironically_Alison Wrote: otoh a fellow Bambi (transgirl) is imploring me (with my consent) to temptations to experiment with estrogen. she scoffs at PM and my attempts to titillate us both by taking it.

(20 Aug 2025, 21:28 )Like Ra Wrote:

(20 Aug 2025, 01:44 )ironically_Alison Wrote: otoh a fellow Bambi (transgirl) is imploring me (with my consent) to temptations to experiment with estrogen. she scoffs at PM and my attempts to titillate us both by taking it.

Yeah, this is how it's progressing. Step for step, step for step ... 😉 https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-Sissification-hypnosis-Sissy-Hypno-Warning-dangerous?pid=69569#pid69569

Quote:Abstract

“Bust enhancing” herbal products are widely advertised. No clinical trials have been published. These products contain a variety of ingredients, including grains, hops, saw palmetto, dong quai, chaste-tree berry, wild yam, kava, fennel, black cohosh, and fenugreek. Several of these herbs are hormonally active; for example, hops contain 8-prenylnaringenin, a phytoestrogen that is more potent than other dietary phytoestrogens. Many bust-enhancing dietary supplements contain substrates for Fusarium, a fungus that produces zearalenone, a potent estrogen that has been associated with breast enlargement in humans and other species. The use of bust-enhancing products should be discouraged because of lack of evidence for efficacy and long-term safety concerns.

. . .

Could these products be effective?
No clinical trial of a bust-enhancing herbal product has been published. It is unlikely that any of these products, if they contain what their labels say that they contain, would cause breast enlargement. Drugs associated with gynecomastia or mammoplasia include estrogen, protease inhibitors, penicillamine, neuroleptics, and antidepressants (including tricyclics, monoamine oxidase inhibitors, and serotonin reuptake inhibitors).

Quote:Conclusion(s): Used alone, dong quai does not produce estrogen-like responses in endometrial thickness or in vaginal maturation and was no more helpful than placebo in relieving menopausal symptoms.

Use of dong quai alone can be criticized because
traditional Chinese practitioners never prescribe
dong quai alone. Typically, it is used in conjunction
with four or more other herbs. An herbal mixture,
Angelica paeonia powder (Radix angelicae sinensis,
Radix paeoniae lactiflorae, Rhizoma ligustici, Rhi-
zoma atractylodes, Rhizoma alismatis, Sclerotium
poriae), has been reported to reduce menopausal dis-
turbances, including vasomotor symptoms, by 70%
(3). We tested dong quai alone because most women
in the United States who take it to relieve meno-
pausal symptoms purchase it in over-the-counter
form as a single entity.
We conclude that when dong quai is used alone it
is no more helpful than placebo in relieving meno-
pausal symptoms. Dong quai does not produce dis-
cernible estrogen-like responses in vaginal cells or
in endometrial thickness. Women should be discour-
aged from using this remedy alone to relieve meno-
pausal complaints.

(06 Sep 2025, 10:36 )Helga Wrote: but its on ebay.de ?

(06 Sep 2025, 14:12 )Iniga Wrote: With Amazon it may be an individual interpretation of the CC mandates/guidelines with medicine/supplements

(06 Sep 2025, 10:36 )Helga Wrote: but it's on ebay.de ?

(07 Sep 2025, 01:58 )Like Ra Wrote:

(06 Sep 2025, 14:12 )Iniga Wrote: With Amazon it may be an individual interpretation of the CC mandates/guidelines with medicine/supplements

Mmm.... I bought a bunch of other supplements on Amazon: Reishi, Saw Palmetto, Cordiceps, Lion's Mane, Black Cohosh, Pygeum Africanum, etc... Where is even Glycyrrhiza glabra, which might be not safe (it might seriously reduce serum testosterone), and might be quite dangerous (might cause high blood pressure and cardiac arrhythmia), according to researches and some experiences. But no PM. 

(Yesterday, 22:29 )Iniga Wrote: Just guessing: It may be due to EU regulations (or the CC institutes fear of them).  
I checked https://ec.europa.eu/food/food-feed-port...gue/search , and PM is listed as a "Novel Food" (I'm not sure how/if this relates to "supplements"):

(Yesterday, 22:29 )Iniga Wrote: Liquorice