Models, which can be used for kinky purposes

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RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - napras-sword - 07 May 2024

Chopping down the prompt a bit, I got what I think you're looking for with

Quote:score_9, score_8_up, BREAK
solo, male, femboy, (light blue leotard with long sleeves and turtleneck:1.1), (shiny clothes:1.1), forest, pink pantyhose, (pantyhose:1.3), sneakers, full body,

and negative prompt

Quote:text, logo, source_furry,

'text' and 'logo' are just me being paranoid. You can add 'covered navel' and 'covered nipples' to this if you don't want the outlines of those showing. If you continuously get a short sleeved leotard with forearm covers or something, add 'cammy white' (street fighter character) to negative as her costume is close enough to these tags to start to bleed in. 'turtleneck' and 'long sleeves' strongly implies a sweater, seemingly, so adding 'sweater' or perhaps also 'ribbed sweater' to negatives can help with that. I'm still getting
My full negative prompt to test is

Quote:text, logo, source_furry, cammy white, ribs, covered navel, covered nipples, (sweater:1.2), swimsuit, jacket,

'swimsuit' because I was getting competition swimsuit-style color markings; and 'jacket' to hopefully stop getting non-skin tight style sleeves.
'ribs' is a personal opinion, using it creates a soft body style that other people put negative 'muscles' or 'abs' in; I just find this works better. Personal taste, obviously.
As is normal for SD, colors you didn't specify (hair and eyes) are heavily influenced by any other colors you mention, so if you want blonde hair you need to add that.
'femboy' in positive does the androgynous look, if a bit kiddy. Removing it always makes muscled dudes. I've seen people use 'teen' or 'older teen' to mitigate that. Image sizes can also affect body proportions, so maybe try portrait ratios.
I still don't know how colossus works, so you might need to remove the pony tags.

uh, I can't figure out how to upload an image.

also, apologies, this is more prompt discussion than model discussion.

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Like Ra - 08 May 2024

Following @napras-sword advice, I simplified the prompts and retested all models. And .... something began to work, and something stopped working 🤣

positive prompt Wrote:(photography,1boy, young boy, androgynous, full body:1.2), real vivid colors, ((dramatic lighting)), (forest:3),bright lighting, ((bulge,erection)), (light blue leotard, shiny leotard, leotard:1.5),turtleneck,skin tight, (sheer pantyhose, pink pantyhose, pantyhose,shiny pantyhose:1.3), bracelets, necklace, sneakers, (((short hair)))

negative prompt Wrote:bare legs,((leggings)),catsuit, bare tummy, bare belly, (((girl))), hairy, bare chest,((panties)),((belly button)),nipples,spread legs,((socks)), beard,baggy,cotton

Seed: 972850412
CFG Scale: 8
No LoRAs

Colossus Project XL (Euler and Euler A):

Colossus shows a full body image now!
There is no much difference between the schedulers.

JuggernautXL (Euler and Euler A):

Juggernaut still shows the upper part. And what a difference between Euler and Euler Ancestral!

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Like Ra - 08 May 2024

Pony XL refused to produce any real-life images, so I had to tweak the prompts.

Same prompt as above (Euler and Euler A):

Added (photo,realistic,highly detailed:2) (Euler and Euler A):

I tried various combinations of photography, photorealistic, real photo in the positive prompt, cartoon, source_cartoon in the negative prompt, but only the combination above started doing something reasonable.
Thopiught, without additional tweaks hands were "undeveloped". Added "scores" in the positive and negative prompts helped a little bit, but not much.

DPM++ 2M SDE Karras with added "score_9,score_8_up, score_8, score_7_up" (on the right)

For "DPM++ 2M SDE Karras" added "scores" did help.

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Like Ra - 08 May 2024

AutismMix SDXL confetti
https://civitai.com/models/288584?modelVersionId=324524

Euler, Euler A, DPM++ 2M SDE Karras

autismmixSDXL_autismmixPony
https://civitai.com/models/288584/autismmix-sdxl

Euler, Euler A, DPM++ 2M SDE Karras

Both "Autism" mixes added a bit more realism, and the difference in the schedulers was not significant.

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Like Ra - 08 May 2024

Mklan XXX NSFW Pony
https://civitai.com/models/330790?modelVersionId=463782

This model refused to add pantyhose, even with LoRAs.

All Euler. Orig prompt, "no shorts", and "no shorts"/"no bare legs":

Euler A "no shorts", "no bare legs":

DPM++ 2M SDE Karras "no shorts", "no bare legs"

The most scheduler-agnostic model.

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Like Ra - 08 May 2024

And this model failed to generate boys at all:

https://civitai.com/models/426082/mklan-xxx-nsfw-realistic-xl
Mklan XXX NSFW Realistic XL

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - napras-sword - 08 May 2024

(08 May 2024, 02:11 )Like Ra Wrote: Pony XL refused to produce any real-life images, so I had to tweak the prompts.

Yeah, pony, and usually anything derived from it, contains no real life/photography samples. It is entirely booru/e621 images. It's simply not made to make photoreal looking people.
Models with no males are also moderately common. As one might surmise, there's a decent amount of the userbase who are only making images of women. This is probably usually mentioned in the description of the base model, if it isn't I'd consider it bad form.

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Bound Whore - 08 May 2024

(08 May 2024, 06:30 )napras-sword Wrote:
(08 May 2024, 02:11 )Like Ra Wrote: Pony XL refused to produce any real-life images, so I had to tweak the prompts.
Yeah, pony, and usually anything derived from it, contains no real life/photography samples. It is entirely booru/e621 images. It's simply not made to make photoreal looking people.

Unless you're doing some very specific/complex kinky things, you can always take your output image and run a couple of img2img passes with a different checkpoint model and a denoising strength around .35-.45 (or higher, depending).

I found that duchaitenjourney (v5.6.7.2.3 in particular, the 6.x ones tend to give you more of a uncanny, 3D cartoony vibe) works very nicely if you want to go for photorealism. Others will do as well, but that one is my go-to at the moment.

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Like Ra - 08 May 2024

(08 May 2024, 06:30 )napras-sword Wrote: pony, and usually anything derived from it, contains no real life/photography samples. It is entirely booru/e621 images. It's simply not made to make photoreal looking people.

True, but "drawn" characters can be 100% cartoonish or "kinda real-like". The latter is what I'm upto.

RE: Models, which can be used for kinky purposes - Like Ra - 08 May 2024

Have a look at this thread: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/showthread.php?tid=4080

Anything you can conjure?