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Perceived age and art
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Ra. Barely legal and jailbait or other day over 18 phenomenon are not unknown or harshly persecuted, even if they are seen as being a bit taboo or edgy. Age guessing is a decently reliable tool, and failures in edge cases is not enough to have it be tossed out. Generated porn runs all the same risks but is far far harder to defend compared to hentai (which aeady has its share of issues), claiming artistic style or design won't work when the art looks like a naked underage real person to an outsider. Quite frankly, being associated with that kinda content is socially unacceptable regardless of legality, and it only further stigmatizes kink and AI as being predatory, opening the floodgates for zealous governments and agencies to pick apart personal freedoms and privacy.

Pedophilia and ephebophilia are not a terminal disease or character flaw that demands immediate societal excommunication and or violence but supporting them is like supporting the cops or 3 letter agencies, you run a huge risk that there will be bad ones, and they will be bad enough to tarnish the reputation of everything connected to them. We shouldn't witch hunt, but we also shouldn't just let it creep up in realistic form.
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#12
Yes, I absolutely agree, there are socially accepted limits and legally accepted limits. And there is a common sense. What we do here on this site is not quite socially accepted. So, the goal is to keep it reasonable and within the legal norms.

BTW, so far, nobody tried to guess the age of the girls above. Why?
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(18 May 2023, 02:17 )Lancer Wrote: won't work when the art looks like a naked underage real person to an outsider.

Real enough? Or.... too artistic? 😉

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(18 May 2023, 02:52 )Like Ra Wrote: Yes, I absolutely agree, there are socially accepted limits and legally accepted limits. And there is a common sense. What we do here on this site is not quite socially accepted. So, the goal is to keep it reasonable and within the legal norms.
BTW, so far, nobody tried to guess the age of the girls above. Why?

Pure guessing, I would say, 25+

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#15
Wow, hit a nerve, Ra?

Not even going to answer your questions. It's apparent that you only listen to those that mirror what you say or like.

Be the self appointed alpha you think you are.
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(18 May 2023, 02:52 )Like Ra Wrote: Yes, I absolutely agree, there are socially accepted limits and legally accepted limits. And there is a common sense. What we do here on this site is not quite socially accepted. So, the goal is to keep it reasonable and within the legal norms.

I would like to add, that socially accepted limits, legally accepted limits, and common sense are different in different cultures. By saying that, I don't want to justify any underage content or similar things.
I'm not so fluent in English, so there will be no further discussion from my side on this topic, since it is walking on very thin ice.

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"We who have seen war, will never stop seeing it. In the silence of the night, we will always hear the screams. So this is our story, for we were soldiers once, and young."

Joe Galloway


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(18 May 2023, 09:56 )Vixien Wrote: Pure guessing, I would say, 25+
Which girl? All 3?
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(18 May 2023, 17:59 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: hit a nerve, Ra? ... Not even going to answer your questions.
Forums are for discussions. And I like healthy logical discussions with proper arguments, when both parties listen to each other, agree or constructively object. What are your arguments? What is your point of view? How is it different from mine?
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(18 May 2023, 22:21 )Vixien Wrote: there will be no further discussion
Why? When people avoid logical discussion repeating one or two standard phrases, it sounds like ... a result of a propaganda. E.g. Russian propaganda about Ukraine and the reaction of most Russian people to any argument, which is not aligned with the official point of view.
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(18 May 2023, 22:21 )Vixien Wrote: I don't want to justify any underage content or similar things.
Please define "any underage content or similar things." That's the first most important question. How do you define it, and what are your definitions based on? We need to define what we are talking about.

My definitions are in the links in the first post. Taken from the law.
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