Charlotte Gray - Project Trance-Formation

I added a poll, because I'm having a hard time deciding the next steps. Once I start, I want to commit for the whole 90 days, as I think that would give a good idea of what this is capable of.

Voted but am flexible towards option two as we're still wondering about the Lilith files you'd see as being in the context and appropriate to Project TF.

I added a poll, because I'm having a hard time deciding the next steps. Once I start, I want to commit for the whole 90 days, as I think that would give a good idea of what this is capable of.

Voted but am flexible towards option two as we're still wondering about the Lilith files you'd see as being in the context and appropriate to Project TF.

I appreciate it. While I have committed to doing what the poll says, I have to say I find the "original" experiment intriguing. In order to stay sane, there will be a few of Charlotte's other files used occasionally (need to find and link them here later) as that was something she encouraged in some correspondence back in the day when I first tried the fist part of the program, before it all got shut down.

Either way, look forward to the direction the forum chooses and should be very interesting. 

I'll need to setup a seperate thread to talk about Lillith's work soon. She has a large body of high quality work now.

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I'll need to set up a separate thread to talk about Lillith's work soon.

We have Lilith's files spread across the forum. E.g. some are in the Sissy thread, some in the Positive feminization. One single separate thread can also be a good idea.

I'll need to set up a separate thread to talk about Lillith's work soon.

We have Lilith's files spread across the forum. E.g. some are in the Sissy thread, some in the Positive feminization. One single separate thread can also be a good idea.

That would be great Likera.  She has a wide range of quality work.  Certainly deserving of a singular focus in terms of the effort put into the quality of her recordings (time and pace especially) and creating modular components to allow building your own customized trance experiences - which is not new - but is certainly considerate.

We have been following the first path pretty diligently and have had a couple of nights of listening for most of the evening with one of two evenings where attention was paid to saying focused for several hours before drifting off.  We have also taken a night or two off in the past week so as to not become too sleep deprived.

Also listening during the day while doing chores when the opportunity presents. 

What we've noticed is that we're surprised by the fact we still have a lot of affinity for the file (Dismantled) as we expected a step decline in interest due to repetition but that has not happened after this first week.

Have only been listening to the first file exclusively (no other files in the series or files from other hypnotists).

The only effects we're noticing at this point is a greater willingness to 'stick with' mundane tasks  and to relax and enjoy the physical sensations of moving and 'receiving' the 'next step' in the processes of the task at hand.  This as opposed to 'doing' the planning as we typically characterize our inner dialog.  We find this relaxing as it seems our 'unconscious' seems to have been more of an active contributor to the process and less of a mostly bored and disinterested internal critic.

In terms of any dramatic shifts in perceived autonomy - there have not been any that have presented themselves in actuality - but then we tend to manifest those types of changes after the fact of stopping listening for a couple of days. 

The plan is to go at least another week with the first file before a week of dedicated listening to the second file and then combining the two for another week or two. 

One other observation is that we vacillate between wishing we could do the 24/7 under some form of control where we are forced to listen regardless of our desires in the moment.  Our current sense in that we expect the subconscious to incrementally assume this role as we've been conflicted recently about when to stop listening at night and trying to fit in listening during the day.

Will update next week.

Can I make an observation?
It’s almost like you ran s/i/we/g on your post before you posted. Your most recent post doesn’t include “I”, but all of your prior ones do. You only reference yourself as “we”. Amazing.

Are you aware of it now that you’re reading this? Is it simply your typing A when you mean B? Or is it something else? Like relating to your perception of yourself?

…Or are you with someone else? If you’re with someone else, I am making a potentially poor observation, please disregard if appropriate.

Or is it something else? Like relating to your perception of yourself?

This is it. Bring nonbinary we have no fixed preferred pronouns so we can be fine with him/her/it and the references to singular (I) out plural (we) are intentional. Those gendered parts do exist even though we prefer not to dwell exclusively in one gender perspective over the other except for society's expectations and prejudice.

We actually prefer plural as it more accurately represents the actual situation when speaking of components of personality. This is no more unusual than being more cognizant of your work persona as opposed to you family persona or your sports persona or your romantic persona.

Culturally we say 'i' because all these different clusters of desires inhabit one physical form but the desires associated with these personas can often be in conflict with one another. Our (my) aim is that these different aspects of oneself should come to know one another more intimately. Use of the the plural form is a helpful mnemonic for us to remember to bring in other emotions and viewpoints to whatever is going on in the moment.

In the form of this Charlotte thread the reference of 'we' is more representation of the conscious/unconscious parts of the psyche interplaying.

Hope this makes some sense for you.

I want to thank @jadefortyfour  again for their commitment to getting started on this idea, even before I started. I appreciate being able to compare notes going forward.

As it is June 4th, the voting closed and I appreciate everyone's input. By a small margin the "as close as I can make it to Charlotte's original Project T-F vision" idea won out, so starting tonight that is what I will do. I will keep a log of what I am doing and update here every week at least, or more often if anything of note is experienced.

I'm reading old messages and trying to remember previous, now lost, conversions, and I am getting the feeling Project T-F was always meant as a start and a sort of scaffold for other hypnosis and training. I think when she originally started it, it was gong to be very ambitious, but then the UK online porn laws changed and lots of other stuff happened and it got lost in the shuffle. It also is a lot of commitment, even thought I suspect this could work with less of a "hardcore" approach that @jadefortyfour  and I are trying.

For all I know, I will lose my cool and have to stop, but I'll do my best and share my thoughts as I go. Hopefully its not too boring. Most of this is repetitive brainwashing. Given I was going to get more involved in some form of "corruption project" this summer anyway, I am sure as I go I will find the urge to add more activities and eve other hypnosis to my schedule and will note when I do.

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For now, here is my plan, starting June 4th overnight.

Part 1: Dismantled

Nights

• Use sleep bluetooth headphones to listen before sleep for at least an hour, then lower volume and run overnight. If ears need a break or power runs low, that is when it stops.
  
• Repeat sleep schedule every night for two weeks, with no other hypnosis audio files at this time.
  

Days

• Run audio at low volume continuously, as often as possible, everyday during chores, studying and non-important work periods.
  
• Allowed breaks are when being social, work that involves communicating with others, driving, some entertainment or if distress is at such a level where it is impacting work or social commitment.
  

Occasional

• At least once per week, use the ice lock self bondage mechanism, secure oneself in place with the earbuds in, hood on, and electrical device set to uncomfortable levels, then listen to the loop.
  (This is to help simulate a more intense level of control and should help to set the tone of the experiment in the mind.)
  

Once I get fourteen days in, I'll have figured out what the next steps will be with the other files.

Ironically, I got hit with a pretty severe headache last night and while today is doing better, I decided to give it a day before resuming. I don't think it's related, as I occasionally get these and just need to work around it. (if it becomes a pattern will reassess)

I took the opportunity today to listen and scrub through the other files, as I feel I am still ensure about the best approach, given how little data we have from the original intention. I found an old message where Mistress Charlotte did mention to me that it was intended to be both modular, and that taking a slow approach is alright. The first files, Dismantled, is sort of a baseline, and while all files build on and integrate back to the others, if someone is not a fan of anal play or even the succubus tulpa, it seems it could be skipped! Apparently, they are supposed to help with general hypnosis in that circumstances, and it makes sense. I know with enough of this training, general susceptibility toward hypnosis and BDSM training should be enhanced, whether you go the route of the tulpa or not.


I do intend to stick with a two week period of Dismantled, to lay down the baseline.  The one tweak to my plan is, if I choose a time to masturbate, I think I will listen to file three, Overdrive, as its the one that adds sexual training and compulsion. I would say, its not fem friendly at all, given its the references to cock. I do think it might be a version of sissy friendly, because as a "not-reallys-sure-dabbled-but-want-toknow-more" sissy, it seems that being a male with a cock is something that I will have, no matter how I go with sissy training long term.

To that point, looking at the way Overdrive it written, I am unsure if it could be listened to for two weeks straight during the day, as it basically compels and requires masturbation as a training aid. I suspect this one was intended mostly for that purpose, and that the subject would listen to other files during the day/night to keep the correct mental state drilled in.

Promise I wont spam the server, I just want to share my thoughts as I go. Tell me if its annoying!

@jadefortyfour  I can no longer see this kind of hypnosis/brainwashing as healthy. I am very sorry.