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RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Like Ra - 02 Dec 2020 (02 Dec 2020, 00:31 )Hazel Wrote: Well you seem to have made it clear that I am cis.I think we need to agree on terms, as it looks like we understand different things under the same definition. A month ago me and my wife had a rather hot discussion on if history is a science or not. It turned out, that there are two definition of science. And according to one definition history IS a science, according to another IS NOT. And sometimes we are talking about the same thing, but call it differently. Hence my questions to you about "what do you understand under XXX, what is your definition of YYY" 😊 RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Like Ra - 02 Dec 2020 (02 Dec 2020, 00:37 )Like Ra Wrote: I think you do not understand the definition of CIS.Ha! Almost simultaneously! (02 Dec 2020, 00:35 )Hazel Wrote: being a cis man is someone who's inner gender identity conforms to their outer sex.Yes, you are right, this is also what's written in Wiki. My understanding was indeed different, to reiterate: - Transgender is the one who is transitioning or has transitioned - CIS person is the one who is living the life of the same gender as the "assigned sex" So yes, our definitions are different. So, by calling you a CIS-guy I meant that "you are living a life of a guy, corresponding to your sex". Yep, misunderstandings... RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Hazel - 02 Dec 2020 (01 Dec 2020, 22:51 )Like Ra Wrote:(01 Dec 2020, 06:08 )Hazel Wrote:(01 Dec 2020, 00:22 )Like Ra Wrote:(30 Nov 2020, 00:28 )Hazel Wrote: I don't think you will really understand if you are a (cis) guy.Of course not! A CIS guy can never understand another CIS guy! I am not in internal discord over my identity, rather I am in discord that I can't express that identity anywhere. Because most people, including yourself (as you said earlier) are trans-skeptics i.e. people who don't believe that transwomen can actually really be women as well! RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Hazel - 02 Dec 2020 (02 Dec 2020, 00:41 )Like Ra Wrote:(02 Dec 2020, 00:37 )Like Ra Wrote: I think you do not understand the definition of CIS.Ha! Almost simultaneously! Gender is not a lifestyle. If how I feel inside does not conform to what's on the outside it automatically means I am trans and not cis. Full stop. RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Hazel - 02 Dec 2020 (01 Dec 2020, 22:55 )Like Ra Wrote:(01 Dec 2020, 05:46 )Hazel Wrote:Again, I asked you a question. I did not state anything, however you "assumed" something you are internally arguing with and assigned it to me (isn't it called projection?). And without answering a question again 😁Quote:Where do you feel it? What do males do differently, when they close their eyes?Lol, are you suggesting that the subjective mental experience of women don't exist? Yes Like Ra, we are all men in body, mind and spirit according to you The questions you keep asking are your attempts to disprove my identity. People only ask questions when they are unsure of something, but since you keep asking very similar questions means you are really unsure of my identity and thus have an opportunity to challenge it. If that were not the case then we wouldn't be having these lengthy conversations about gender. Just imagine for a moment that I was a cis woman and substitute that thought into our previous responses on this thread...can you imagine how absurd that would be where on the one hand I am trying to prove that I am a "real" woman yet you persistently keep arguing and challenging me with a bunch of logical arguments trying to prove otherwise. RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - essanym - 02 Dec 2020 (01 Dec 2020, 22:20 )Like Ra Wrote: Sorry, this is logically and mathematically wrong: How is it wrong? Example: All Dutch citizens are humans, but not all humans are Dutch citizens. So why not also, all transwomen are women but not all women are transwomen. RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Hazel - 02 Dec 2020 (01 Dec 2020, 22:55 )Like Ra Wrote: And without answering a question again I did answer the question and i'll answer it again to make it more clear for you: Inside I feel female. It does not matter if my eyes are open or closed, I feel myself to be a woman. Now if you find that hard to believe, then please refer to the attachment regarding the blind transwoman you linked a while back on this thread. It is possible to feel like the opposite sex despite having a male body. That's part of the spectrum of being transgender. RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Hazel - 02 Dec 2020 (01 Dec 2020, 23:34 )Like Ra Wrote:(01 Dec 2020, 05:56 )Hazel Wrote: the sense of an incongruency of my female gender identity and what I see in the mirror.I fully understand this, and I know this feeling exactly. Hence I asked about your feelings when you CLOSE YOUR EYES. The mind has many levels. What you are referring to is pure consciousness. At that level are you even human? You see, we cannot perpetually exist in that experience (unless you commit to a monastic lifestyle or become someone like Buddha/Sadguru). We live in the relative world and each have a mind and body with different needs. Let's stay on that level of mind in our discussions please 😊 RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Hazel - 02 Dec 2020 (01 Dec 2020, 23:42 )Like Ra Wrote:(01 Dec 2020, 06:42 )Hazel Wrote: And as someone who competes in high level swimming, you cannot even begin to understand how envious I was to watch female athletes from the sidelines while I was stuck with racing the guys.You can't even imagine how I always envied male swimmers! How perfectly they look, how perfectly they can glide through the water, how sexy their cleanly shaved skin glistens, how tight their swimming attire is. ... I imagine how many girls envy such swimmers! Yes, that's because you are a guy. I've never meant any man who said they wouldn't want to look like Chris Hemsworth. Just like how most women look up to female celebrities as their inspiration. I group myself with the latter category. RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Hazel - 02 Dec 2020 (01 Dec 2020, 23:49 )Like Ra Wrote:(01 Dec 2020, 21:19 )Hazel Wrote: Ok, but 185 cm is not the same as being 194cm.Ah guys, you've never been to Holland, have you? 😁 With my 175cm I feel like a 10yo kid among adults! Normal female foot size is around 40-41EU. But... they can't walk in heels 😁 You're 175? Lucky you! 😁 |