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RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Like Ra - 28 May 2024
(28 May 2024, 15:13 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: It's serious, and the need (notice I said need, not desire)Very good point.
(28 May 2024, 15:13 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: And most don't look anything like the images we see on tumblr, porn sites, etc.For me personally, it's painful to think that I ask others to "role-play" with my "non-physical, gender issue" and "clear physical incongruence", and I might cause difficulties for others to make them think twice before they address me (he? she? they? man? woman?). It can me being ENTP (with painful "relationship" function) or just me being uncertain and cringy about myself, so I feel others' cringe.
But again:
(28 May 2024, 15:13 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: It's serious, and the need (notice I said need, not desire)I don't have a need,
(28 May 2024, 15:13 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: This is often literally a life or death choice.and fortunately, I do not have to make such a choice. I just enjoy autogynephilia. So, I can suppress it.
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - vanessa_fetish - 29 May 2024
Exactly, Ra. For you it's not a need, so you're able to do so.
There's also another fact about being transsexual. Many (if not most) either lose a job, have to work a job that pays less, work under the table, or move to being a sex worker of some sort. Mostly to make ends meet, let alone save up for surgery (in countries where it is not covered).
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - cbshackle - 18 Jun 2024
(29 May 2024, 18:47 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: Exactly, Ra. For you it's not a need, so you're able to do so.
There's also another fact about being transsexual. Many (if not most) either lose a job, have to work a job that pays less, work under the table, or move to being a sex worker of some sort. Mostly to make ends meet, let alone save up for surgery (in countries where it is not covered).
As one of the other transexuals in the forum here, I have to agree 100% with you. I have been fortunate to work in the IT/software engineering field where I never had to resort to sex work, but did have to work under the table for a few years but was always able to make ends meet. I was able to get into a good paying position now and make very good money and have a house and everything, but it took nearly 10 years to do that. I am also fortunate to have passing privilege with only having bottom surgery, which was life-saving for me. It took 4 years of transitioning, 2 years of seeing a therapist and all kinds of hoops to go through to get approved for surgery, but I did it and have zero regrets except for not transitioning earlier.
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Like Ra - 18 Jun 2024
(18 Jun 2024, 04:08 )cbshackle Wrote: As one of the other transexuals in the forum here
(18 Jun 2024, 04:08 )cbshackle Wrote: . I am also fortunate to have passing privilege with only having bottom surgery, which was life-saving for me.Still, your case is a bit different.
(As a reference: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-General-TG-TS-TV-and-sex-change-thread?pid=48091#pid48091)
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - vanessa_fetish - 18 Jun 2024
(18 Jun 2024, 04:08 )cbshackle Wrote:(29 May 2024, 18:47 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: Exactly, Ra. For you it's not a need, so you're able to do so.
There's also another fact about being transsexual. Many (if not most) either lose a job, have to work a job that pays less, work under the table, or move to being a sex worker of some sort. Mostly to make ends meet, let alone save up for surgery (in countries where it is not covered).
As one of the other transexuals in the forum here, I have to agree 100% with you. I have been fortunate to work in the IT/software engineering field where I never had to resort to sex work, but did have to work under the table for a few years but was always able to make ends meet. I was able to get into a good paying position now and make very good money and have a house and everything, but it took nearly 10 years to do that. I am also fortunate to have passing privilege with only having bottom surgery, which was life-saving for me. It took 4 years of transitioning, 2 years of seeing a therapist and all kinds of hoops to go through to get approved for surgery, but I did it and have zero regrets except for not transitioning earlier.
Before I was able to collect my full Veterans Disability, I relied on a measly amount per month from them, and some from welfare. Still not enough to survive let alone transition. So I was one of the ones who had to resort to sex work. First as escort, later added pro domming, and making clips to sell. Out of the hundreds of us TS's that I know, very very few kept a job or were able to get an actual job. And many even after gender confirming surgery.
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - Like Ra - 18 Jun 2024
(18 Jun 2024, 15:56 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: Out of the hundreds of us TS's that I know, very very few kept a job or were able to get an actual job. And many even after gender confirming surgery.That's ... not encouraging ...
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - sweetrubber - 18 Jun 2024
(17 Mar 2024, 23:59 )Zooy Wrote:This is a fabulous article.(16 Mar 2024, 12:07 )Like Ra Wrote: Bookmarking: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trans-rights-biological-sex-gender-judith-butler.html
While reading this paper, I started wondering how things would be, if all children are given puberty blockers until they are at least 18 years of age.
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - cbshackle - 19 Jun 2024
(18 Jun 2024, 15:56 )vanessa_fetish Wrote:(18 Jun 2024, 04:08 )cbshackle Wrote:(29 May 2024, 18:47 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: Exactly, Ra. For you it's not a need, so you're able to do so.
There's also another fact about being transsexual. Many (if not most) either lose a job, have to work a job that pays less, work under the table, or move to being a sex worker of some sort. Mostly to make ends meet, let alone save up for surgery (in countries where it is not covered).
As one of the other transexuals in the forum here, I have to agree 100% with you. I have been fortunate to work in the IT/software engineering field where I never had to resort to sex work, but did have to work under the table for a few years but was always able to make ends meet. I was able to get into a good paying position now and make very good money and have a house and everything, but it took nearly 10 years to do that. I am also fortunate to have passing privilege with only having bottom surgery, which was life-saving for me. It took 4 years of transitioning, 2 years of seeing a therapist and all kinds of hoops to go through to get approved for surgery, but I did it and have zero regrets except for not transitioning earlier.
Before I was able to collect my full Veterans Disability, I relied on a measly amount per month from them, and some from welfare. Still not enough to survive let alone transition. So I was one of the ones who had to resort to sex work. First as escort, later added pro domming, and making clips to sell. Out of the hundreds of us TS's that I know, very very few kept a job or were able to get an actual job. And many even after gender confirming surgery.
I know several that kept their job but only in areas where anti-discrimination gender identity laws existed (NYC Area), but most were in the IT industry. Even in those areas, I know many that were fired for transitioning, but it's not always easy to prove discrimination. Where I live now in TN, there are zero laws to prevent discrimination. (The city nearby did have a law, but the state passed another law prevent a city from have a anti-discrimination law not a
eady in the state... US state laws are weird.) This cities in this part of the US are liberal, but the state law makers are ultra conservative. I was also able to update all my documents which since last year, several states have prevented that. Trans rights are big political topic here at the moment and fortunately I am blend in and although my employer is pro-LGBT (they know I am a lesbian being married to a woman), they really do not know I am trans.
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - vanessa_fetish - 19 Jun 2024
(18 Jun 2024, 17:06 )Like Ra Wrote:(18 Jun 2024, 15:56 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: Out of the hundreds of us TS's that I know, very very few kept a job or were able to get an actual job. And many even after gender confirming surgery.That's ... not encouraging ...
It's better than it was when I started, but still lots of hurdles.
RE: General TG, TS, TV and sex change thread - vanessa_fetish - 19 Jun 2024
Yeah, we get the US news up here in Canada, and the transphobia that started in politics there has made its way here now. My friends in some states fear for their lives, others have left the US for here and other countries, and one friend was beaten within an inch of her life. And it's not that much better up here - I've been physically attacked 3 times. Can't count the verbal attacks.
Yep, proving discrimination can be hard in a lot of cases. I had to go "drab" a couple of times to secure an apartment and use my dead name. Otherwise I'd be homeless again.
(19 Jun 2024, 03:32 )cbshackle Wrote: I know several that kept their job but only in areas where anti-discrimination gender identity laws existed (NYC Area), but most were in the IT industry. Even in those areas, I know many that were fired for transitioning, but it's not always easy to prove discrimination. Where I live now in TN, there are zero laws to prevent discrimination. (The city nearby did have a law, but the state passed another law prevent a city from have a anti-discrimination law not a