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RE: sex change - Tinker D - 25 May 2014
Also, correct if I'm wrong here, but I heard that the suicide rate is somewhat high. Like around 70%? Mostly because after SRS, the new woman is pretty looked down upon.
Problems can be:
Every one that knew you as a man,
Still sees you as a man dressing as a woman.
Also, if you get detained by the local police,
Will they accept you as a woman even with all
the required paperwork.
While SRS can help for a number people, it in fact will not really help everyone.
But does make money for everyone during the process of getting the SRS.
Many years ago, I saw a movie on a device called Television. It was set in the UK about a greeting card designer that was a man and got the SRS to be the female he always knew he was ment to be.
For some reason, he was detained by the police and was searched because he was a man dressed like a woman.
I wish I could remember the films name.
I also have an old VHS tape from the Discovery Channel called Transgerder or from male to female.
And I know a guy who is just starting this, and he is having a hard time with this. He a
eady lost his job, almost all his friends.I am one of the few he has left, and his mood swings are something else.
I don't think he is going to make it.
He calls every day.
RE: sex change - vanessa_fetish - 25 May 2014
(25 May 2014, 14:31 )Like Ra Wrote: It's all about the actual, true goals. You can't get away from yourself, body modification does not change that. It's like silicone breast implants. Some girls think that big tits will immediately solve their problems. However the silicone can be added/changed/removed (if done properly), while cut off penis is one way only.
Yes, there are cases when plastic surgery does help and does change lives to the best. But much more often the actual problem is somewhere between the ears, not between the legs 😉
That's why there is a requirement for letters from 2 sources (like psychiatrist) and the requirement to live usually at least a year (though some will perform with 6 months living).
And why when I talk with those who seek out help for this, my first question is "Is it a need or a want?". If it is not a need, then it really likely isn't for them at least at that point (that can change).
No amount of psychotherapy, etc, will "cure" a trans* person who needs the surgery, thus why the surgery exists.
The "cosmetics" of it shouldn't be compared to a boob job, Ra. And again, the irreversability (sp?) of it is WHY there are the requirements. It is a very serious and trying time. I've lived full time since 1998, have the requirements met. I can get my surgery at anytime. And I can tell you, living full time is NOT easy, even in a very open city like Montreal. I've been attacked, verbally assaulted, laughed at, faced discrimination, etc. Yet I KNOW this is what I NEED, and no one will take away my right to be me, the me I should have been. This isn't something that should be belittled, and I find those that do so offensive, insensitive, and a little ignorant since there is a whack of educational material on the subject.
Imagine if tomorrow you woke up as the opposite sex. And it was NOT something you wanted permanent. What would you do to correct this? You're one inside, yet the other outside. What would you do to make the outside match what you know inside? 😉
RE: sex change - Tinker D - 25 May 2014
I face that same question myself. But my results were that I am a guy. I would love to be a girl. But what I have seen are problems with both, so I am thinking of a gender neutral person.
This is me:
I am a strange guy.
I like being around girls.
I like talking with the girls.
I love shopping with the girls.
I don't like having sex with girls.
I like dressing up like the girls.
But:
I like being held by a man.
I like to have sex with a man.
I like to dress up for a man.
I would for a man to take me out to dinner and a movie.
Basically, I am a female living in a male body, and there is nothing I can do about it.
And that makes me the weird one of our bunch.
I would rather be with the girls as a girl,
Than a man being with other men.
So I say......
RE: sex change - Like Ra - 25 May 2014
(25 May 2014, 15:44 )vanessa_fetish Wrote: And why when I talk with those who seek out help for this, my first question is "Is it a need or a want?". If it is not a need, then it really likely isn't for them at least at that point (that can change).I agree, that such surgery must exist, that sometimes the mother nature makes errors (there must be some errors, right? Or.... not?), that it can be unbearable for some people to have "THAT" between the legs, etc. Hence I said "in most cases", not in "all cases" 😉
Indeed, there is a huge difference between "(true) intentions" and "wishes" (back to Chinese, Indian, and other philosophies). This is why I mentioned the "true goals".
In case of Tights, he said, that he wants more sexual partners. The surgery will have the opposite effect. The goal will never be reached.
RE: sex change - Like Ra - 25 May 2014
(25 May 2014, 16:07 )Tinker D Wrote: I face that same question myself. But my results were that I am a guy. I would love to be a girl. But what I have seen are problems with both, so I am thinking of a gender neutral person.
I would like to be a pretty futanari 😋
RE: sex change - Like Ra - 25 May 2014
(25 May 2014, 16:07 )Tinker D Wrote: This is me:I mentioned that many times - I do not like men, but I like erected cocks. I like to wear some so called "women' clothes". I find women's clothes much more attractive than men's and both kinds of genitalia equally silly (especially when not erected 😁 )
RE: sex change - vanessa_fetish - 25 May 2014
(25 May 2014, 16:07 )Tinker D Wrote: I face that same question myself. But my results were that I am a guy. I would love to be a girl. But what I have seen are problems with both, so I am thinking of a gender neutral person.
This is me:
I am a strange guy.
I like being around girls.
I like talking with the girls.
I love shopping with the girls.
I don't like having sex with girls.
I like dressing up like the girls.
But:
I like being held by a man.
I like to have sex with a man.
I like to dress up for a man.
I would for a man to take me out to dinner and a movie.
Basically, I am a female living in a male body, and there is nothing I can do about it.
And that makes me the weird one of our bunch.
I would rather be with the girls as a girl,
Than a man being with other men.
So I say......
You are you, and you are not strange. I know many like you btw. You do what you need to do, be who you need to be, and do what you need to be happy. F*** what others think IMO.
Until transition becomes an absolute need, enjoy your diversity. If it becomes a necessity, then seek out a professional to discuss it with.
You are you. Never be ashamed or feel "weird" 😉
RE: sex change - vanessa_fetish - 25 May 2014
(25 May 2014, 16:25 )Like Ra Wrote: I agree, that such surgery must exist, that sometimes the mother nature makes errors (there must be some errors, right? Or.... not?), that it can be unbearable for some people to have "THAT" between the legs, etc. Hence I said "in most cases", not in "all cases" 😉
Indeed, there is a huge difference between "(true) intentions" and "wishes" (back to Chinese, Indian, and other philosophies). This is why I mentioned the "true goals".
In case of Tights, he said, that he wants more sexual partners. The surgery will have the opposite effect. The goal will never be reached.
Yes, mother nature does make errors. There were studies done of the brain patterns and actual brains of trans* persons, and it was discovered there was an extremely strong resemblance to those of the sex they were transitioning to. I'll have to try find the link to it.
Transitioning for sexual partners is not a very good reason to. BUT... I can tell you that as a pre-op I've had more sex than ever lol. But once surgery is done (at some point when Veterans Affairs gives me a better pension) I know that my sexual partners will decrease. But I'm not doing all this for sex, I'm doing it all to be happy, and to be alive. Yes, I almost became a statistic with suicide attempts and my last one while in the Canadian Forces is what made me realize that I needed to do this. (I was the second in the CF to begin transition on job btw).
To anyone reading this, there is nothing wrong with being anything in the trans* spectrum. Be you CD/TV, gender fluid, gender queer, non-gendered, third gender, etc. Be who you need to be in order to be happy and enjoy life.
RE: sex change - Tinker D - 25 May 2014
And that's what I am doing now.
Still get weird looks, but I'm still ok.
RE: sex change - vanessa_fetish - 25 May 2014
(25 May 2014, 17:33 )Tinker D Wrote: And that's what I am doing now.
Still get weird looks, but I'm still ok.
Being tall, a bit muscular still, and tattooed, I get the weird looks as a woman. Eventually it just becomes "background noise". I don't care what small minds think. Yes, I always carry summat to defend myself in case, but peeps can look, stare, say sh*t all they want, I will be me and they cannot do anything to change that 😉