10 Dec 2019, 23:47
Hence the interest in bondage, self-bondage, hypnosis, femdom or maledom. We want to to trade our freedom for freedom of having no choices, for freedom of having no free will.
(10 Dec 2019, 23:23 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]I think that the amount of choices is inversely related to the freedom. The more freedom, the less wishes. The absolute freedom leads to having zero wishes, zero desires, hence zero choices.
The more we bound to the society, the less freedom we have. We are bound to duties, bound to necessities, bound to debts, bound to desires, bound to relationships, bound to our bodies, bound to our abilities. Too many things are happening simultaneously, too many priorities we have to bounce around, too many choices to make to buy ourself some "freedom". And this is not something we would accept willingly, should we have a free will.
In my opinion, there is no such thing as "free choice", it's an oxymoron. It's either "free" or "choice".
(12 Dec 2019, 23:59 )Strappado Wrote: [ -> ]who tells usUsually our desires. We live in the world of desires. And desires are more than often dictated not by our choice. E.g. the example from https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...3#pid30393
(12 Dec 2019, 23:59 )Strappado Wrote: [ -> ]who tells us, where to stopThe fear of being punished.
(10 Dec 2019, 23:47 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]Hence the interest in bondage, self-bondage, hypnosis, femdom or maledom. We want to to trade our freedom for freedom of having no choices, for freedom of having no free will.... and usually to fulfil our desires, while moving the responsibilities to another person. Pleasure with hopefully no guilt, pleasure with no apparent punishment.
(10 Dec 2019, 23:23 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]I think that the amount of choices is inversely related to the freedom. The more freedom, the less wishes. The absolute freedom leads to having zero wishes, zero desires, hence zero choices.
(14 May 2020, 15:02 )Bambislave Wrote: [ -> ]Could hypnosis bend someone's free will and make the listener do stuff they would never do in their standard mindset?Hypnosis can make one reconsider the wishes. E.g. by starting far and then slowly add subtle suggestions leading into a particular direction. Think of, for example, priming: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_(psychology)
(14 May 2020, 01:49 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting. Recently I stumbled at Sadhguru's definition of the freedom, which can be loosely quoted as: the freedom is when we joyfully do what we need to do. This definition quite closely corresponds to what I wrote earlier:
(10 Dec 2019, 23:23 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]I think that the amount of choices is inversely related to the freedom. The more freedom, the less wishes. The absolute freedom leads to having zero wishes, zero desires, hence zero choices.
(15 May 2020, 17:41 )Like Ra Wrote: [ -> ]If "The Life" leaves you with "no choice" possibly "It" wants to tell you something. You might have missed the early warnings, when you had more choices available. Think of a road and road signs. At the beginning the signs are very subtle and gentle, like "Alternative route in 10km". The next sign might be "Follow this route ...". Then "Road closure in 5km". Then "Go back". Then "STOP".
Then ... the road ends up in an unfinished bridge. Will you stop? Can you brake in time? Or .... is your speed high enough to jump to the other side of the canyon? Or ... can you fly? How many choices do you have?