The Red Rose series

Do you have any examples that could help me understand how to make that work?

You can have a look at Samantha Bandler's thread: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...z-hypnosis

Need to think about a good example, though ...

Would the two voices be of different volume but talking at the same time or like a back & forth conversation or each voice speaks for a few minutes then the other speaks?

SB has all 3 or 4 😉 The idea is every time you listen, you might hear something different (and this might be random), so it does not get boring. Another idea is the new (and this is thoroughly planned) text, which is created when you hear a combination of several tracks with pauses.

I'll look through the thread and listen to some SB to see if I can understand and replicate this technique. Thank you for the idea. I'm trying to build and improve this work and it helps a lot when I get this kind of feedback/direction/inspiration/ideas.

I believe to get a good sense of SBs work, and how to think about layering the different tracks, you can imagine the below experimental script:

Left track : counting down from 10 to 0, then back up to 10 in a loop
right track : counting up from 0 to 10, then back down to 0 in a loop

for the counting, when both numbers are at opposite ends, have the tracks bounce back and forth, but as you get close to the mid point, the numbers will start to overlap, and when you hit 5, both channels say it simultaneously. (the number 5 will essentially act as a bridge point to allow your SCM to count up and wake up, or count down and go deeper, leading to a continuous state of fractionation)

Both tracks :
Subliminal :
Along with the above there would also be a subliminal track, such as the soft moans and leather creaking you mentioned, that is played through both ears simultaneously, but the volume shouldn't override the counting, at least at first. Just as you can oscillate the tempo in regards to counting, you can oscillate the volume to take precedence of the subliminal and main tracks

Main file :
You can have the body track play 3 times, first and last are subliminal where the volume wont interfere with the induction or the wakener, but you may want certain things to line up. For example, if there is a cum and collapse trigger in the body file, you would want that to subliminally overlap with a sleep trigger from the induction, or the wake up trigger from the wakener part.

this is well written out, thank you.  I will give it a try this week.

[Like Ra]

2. mental block subconscious sfx.mp3 (Size: 30.73 MB )

It's looped in the background. Interesting! 👍 I like the ideas behind, and I wonder if it's going to work.

a new voice for the smart bimbo.

I like the timbre and the smoothness of this voice!. Interestingly enough, the recent voices lower the intonation at the end of the sentences right after a short rising (sounds a bit gloomy) The old voices (Ivy, Sally) raises the intonations (sounds more cheerful).

Oh yes, one thing - the fade out at the very end is too sharp to loop smoothly. The text is perfect for looping!

2. mental block subconscious sfx.mp3 (Size: 30.73 MB )

It's looped in the background. Interesting! 👍 I like the ideas behind, and I wonder if it's going to work.

a new voice for the smart bimbo.

I like the timbre and the smoothness of this voice!. Interestingly enough, the recent voices lower the intonation at the end of the sentences right after a short rising (sounds a bit gloomy) The old voices (Ivy, Sally) raises the intonations (sounds more cheerful).

Oh yes, one thing - the fade out at the very end is too sharp to loop smoothly. The text is perfect for looping!

Thank you for the feedback. I really like the voices as well. The best part is that they dont cost anything. One day though I would love to work with a voice actor. But for now I'm just trying to build up skills of writing and sound editing.

OK, for the fade out, here is my attempt to fix it.  Please let me know if this now works or it's still too sharp or jarring.

  2. mental block subconscious sfx 2.mp3 (Size: 30.71 MB / Downloads: 17)

and a pic to go along with it.
   

This 10 part series, called the Red Rose, looks at building a new voice for the smart bimbo. Although the path is different it still looks to go to the same destination as the previous series.

Red Rose - Mental Block

1. Mind Portal
2. Mental Block
3. Amnesia
4. Trapped
5. Locked
6. Control
7. Smart and Slutty
8. Essence
9. Self Bondage
10. Brain Fog

This is the calm version.  

  2. mental block subconscious calm.mp3 (Size: 20.35 MB / Downloads: 16)

and another picture of a goth femboy to go with this post.

   

Do you have any examples that could help me understand how to make that work?

You can have a look at Samantha Bandler's thread: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...z-hypnosis

Need to think about a good example, though ...

Would the two voices be of different volume but talking at the same time or like a back & forth conversation or each voice speaks for a few minutes then the other speaks?

SB has all 3 or 4  😉 The idea is every time you listen, you might hear something different (and this might be random), so it does not get boring. Another idea is the new (and this is thoroughly planned) text, which is created when you hear a combination of several tracks with pauses.

I'll look through the thread and listen to some SB to see if I can understand and replicate this technique. Thank you for the idea.  I'm trying to build and improve this work and it helps a lot when I get this kind of feedback/direction/inspiration/ideas.

I believe to get a good sense of SBs work, and how to think about layering the different tracks, you can imagine the below experimental script:

Left track : counting down from 10 to 0, then back up to 10 in a loop
right track : counting up from 0 to 10, then back down to 0 in a loop

for the counting, when both numbers are at opposite ends, have the tracks bounce back and forth, but as you get close to the mid point, the numbers will start to overlap, and when you hit 5, both channels say it simultaneously. (the number 5 will essentially act as a bridge point to allow your SCM to count up and wake up, or count down and go deeper, leading to a continuous state of fractionation)

Both tracks :
Subliminal :
Along with the above there would also be a subliminal track, such as the soft moans and leather creaking you mentioned, that is played through both ears simultaneously, but the volume shouldn't override the counting, at least at first. Just as you can oscillate the tempo in regards to counting, you can oscillate the volume to take precedence of the subliminal and main tracks

Main file :
You can have the body track play 3 times, first and last are subliminal where the volume wont interfere with the induction or the wakener, but you may want certain things to line up. For example, if there is a cum and collapse trigger in the body file, you would want that to subliminally overlap with a sleep trigger from the induction, or the wake up trigger from the wakener part.

Once again, thank you for this.  I am working on the countdown and here is my first attempt.  Any feedback, pointers, suggestions to improve is always appreciated.

  countdown and up draft 1.mp3 (Size: 1.07 MB / Downloads: 14)
and also a picture:
   

Do you have any examples that could help me understand how to make that work?

You can have a look at Samantha Bandler's thread: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...z-hypnosis

Need to think about a good example, though ...

Would the two voices be of different volume but talking at the same time or like a back & forth conversation or each voice speaks for a few minutes then the other speaks?

SB has all 3 or 4  😉 The idea is every time you listen, you might hear something different (and this might be random), so it does not get boring. Another idea is the new (and this is thoroughly planned) text, which is created when you hear a combination of several tracks with pauses.

I'll look through the thread and listen to some SB to see if I can understand and replicate this technique. Thank you for the idea.  I'm trying to build and improve this work and it helps a lot when I get this kind of feedback/direction/inspiration/ideas.

I believe to get a good sense of SBs work, and how to think about layering the different tracks, you can imagine the below experimental script:

Left track : counting down from 10 to 0, then back up to 10 in a loop
right track : counting up from 0 to 10, then back down to 0 in a loop

for the counting, when both numbers are at opposite ends, have the tracks bounce back and forth, but as you get close to the mid point, the numbers will start to overlap, and when you hit 5, both channels say it simultaneously. (the number 5 will essentially act as a bridge point to allow your SCM to count up and wake up, or count down and go deeper, leading to a continuous state of fractionation)

Both tracks :
Subliminal :
Along with the above there would also be a subliminal track, such as the soft moans and leather creaking you mentioned, that is played through both ears simultaneously, but the volume shouldn't override the counting, at least at first. Just as you can oscillate the tempo in regards to counting, you can oscillate the volume to take precedence of the subliminal and main tracks

Main file :
You can have the body track play 3 times, first and last are subliminal where the volume wont interfere with the induction or the wakener, but you may want certain things to line up. For example, if there is a cum and collapse trigger in the body file, you would want that to subliminally overlap with a sleep trigger from the induction, or the wake up trigger from the wakener part.

Once again, thank you for this.  I am working on the countdown and here is my first attempt.  Any feedback, pointers, suggestions to improve is always appreciated.
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and also a picture:
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First, thank you for taking a thought I put out there and making it real.

Feedback :
1. Double the length and swap the countdown on the second pass. the countdown that went down, should then count up and vice versa. Think of it like a wave form or a double helix pattern. [What goes up, must come down. What falls down, must stand back up.]
       

2. You overlapped the script instead of the number as I had imagined, referencing numbers 2 and 3. I think you want the numbers to take priority in this particular script, since the numbers themselves are acting as the 'trigger' ("when you count to 1 you will be in a deep trance")

3. Combining both points above it might make sense to double again with the adjustments to tempo needed in order to have the numbers line up. Image below to help show the tempo flow I imagined.
   

4. Don't be afraid of using silence in and between phrases to let the things that should line up, actually line up. Silence will act as a way to relieve 'overstimulation' within one ear at a time (or both or neither). Just like the above I think hypno works best when things oscillate like waves.

One thing I noticed with SB is that sometimes a word from the left channel will fill in the space from the right channel perfectly in order to change the meaning from a mundane phrase... to something perverted.
Example using an SB phrase : When SB uses "New Direction" when talking about traveling, it will later be used and sound like 'Nude Erection' to fill in the space from the other channels

For this script:  "Four" and "For" would be an obvious example

5. For personal reasons, if this is going to be an actual file when the drafts are done. If you could use the number 8 and the number 0 as almost hard triggers (8 being awake, 0 being asleep). The two numerical figures being symbols of the infinite in their own way.

6. Regarding overlapping words and having them be unintelligible due to the overlap, I don't always see this as a major concern. I view hypno much like listening to a song in a different language, emotions and flow still get through. And you can oscillate intelligibility of the phrases, much like everything else by having the phrase said fully and clearly elsewhere in the script. Overall, your SCM knows what you want to do when you sit down and listen to a hypno file. Eventually the file itself is becomes less about the script, and more a signal / tool used to enter the mindset needed to 'play the game' with your SCM.

[Like Ra]

Please let me know if this now works or it's still too sharp or jarring.

Unless I checked the wrong file ... I still hear the fade out. Also, there are various effects at the end of the file, which do not exist at the beginning. I think, the last 5-10 seconds of the ending can also be without any effects and fade outs.

Please let me know if this now works or it's still too sharp or jarring.

Unless I checked the wrong file ... I still hear the fade out. Also, there are various effects at the end of the file, which do not exist at the beginning. I think, the last 5-10 seconds of the ending can also be without any effects and fade outs.

ok, here is another attempt with a softer fade out because the beginning of the file is a long fade in with the music. If this doesnt work I'll look to change the long fade-in from the beginning into a more continuous sound but that usually has a sharp sound at the end. 

Any way, give this one a try.  Sorry about the last attempt. 

  2. mental block subconscious sfx 3.mp3 (Size: 30.62 MB / Downloads: 15)

and a pic to go with it...
   

You can have a look at Samantha Bandler's thread: https://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread...z-hypnosis
Need to think about a good example, though ...
SB has all 3 or 4  😉 The idea is every time you listen, you might hear something different (and this might be random), so it does not get boring. Another idea is the new (and this is thoroughly planned) text, which is created when you hear a combination of several tracks with pauses.

I'll look through the thread and listen to some SB to see if I can understand and replicate this technique. Thank you for the idea.  I'm trying to build and improve this work and it helps a lot when I get this kind of feedback/direction/inspiration/ideas.

I believe to get a good sense of SBs work, and how to think about layering the different tracks, you can imagine the below experimental script:
Left track : counting down from 10 to 0, then back up to 10 in a loop
right track : counting up from 0 to 10, then back down to 0 in a loop
for the counting, when both numbers are at opposite ends, have the tracks bounce back and forth, but as you get close to the mid point, the numbers will start to overlap, and when you hit 5, both channels say it simultaneously. (the number 5 will essentially act as a bridge point to allow your SCM to count up and wake up, or count down and go deeper, leading to a continuous state of fractionation)
Both tracks :
Subliminal :
Along with the above there would also be a subliminal track, such as the soft moans and leather creaking you mentioned, that is played through both ears simultaneously, but the volume shouldn't override the counting, at least at first. Just as you can oscillate the tempo in regards to counting, you can oscillate the volume to take precedence of the subliminal and main tracks
Main file :
You can have the body track play 3 times, first and last are subliminal where the volume wont interfere with the induction or the wakener, but you may want certain things to line up. For example, if there is a cum and collapse trigger in the body file, you would want that to subliminally overlap with a sleep trigger from the induction, or the wake up trigger from the wakener part.

Once again, thank you for this.  I am working on the countdown and here is my first attempt.  Any feedback, pointers, suggestions to improve is always appreciated.
and also a picture:

First, thank you for taking a thought I put out there and making it real.
Feedback :
1. Double the length and swap the countdown on the second pass. the countdown that went down, should then count up and vice versa. Think of it like a wave form or a double helix pattern. [What goes up, must come down. What falls down, must stand back up.]
2. You overlapped the script instead of the number as I had imagined, referencing numbers 2 and 3. I think you want the numbers to take priority in this particular script, since the numbers themselves are acting as the 'trigger' ("when you count to 1 you will be in a deep trance")
3. Combining both points above it might make sense to double again with the adjustments to tempo needed in order to have the numbers line up. Image below to help show the tempo flow I imagined.
4. Don't be afraid of using silence in and between phrases to let the things that should line up, actually line up. Silence will act as a way to relieve 'overstimulation' within one ear at a time (or both or neither). Just like the above I think hypno works best when things oscillate like waves.
One thing I noticed with SB is that sometimes a word from the left channel will fill in the space from the right channel perfectly in order to change the meaning from a mundane phrase... to something perverted.
Example using an SB phrase : When SB uses "New Direction" when talking about traveling, it will later be used and sound like 'Nude Erection' to fill in the space from the other channels
For this script:  "Four" and "For" would be an obvious example
5. For personal reasons, if this is going to be an actual file when the drafts are done. If you could use the number 8 and the number 0 as almost hard triggers (8 being awake, 0 being asleep). The two numerical figures being symbols of the infinite in their own way.
6. Regarding overlapping words and having them be unintelligible due to the overlap, I don't always see this as a major concern. I view hypno much like listening to a song in a different language, emotions and flow still get through. And you can oscillate intelligibility of the phrases, much like everything else by having the phrase said fully and clearly elsewhere in the script. Overall, your SCM knows what you want to do when you sit down and listen to a hypno file. Eventually the file itself is becomes less about the script, and more a signal / tool used to enter the mindset needed to 'play the game' with your SCM.

Sorry for the slow response.  Thank you so much for all of this and I've been trying to work it out. At first I tried to do an elevator that goes both up and down but that didn't work (although it could still work if I keep trying...sigh) so now I'm working on more of a pair of spiral staircases side by side...or just one spiral staircase that the listener is going up and down at the same time.  The idea is this:
And as you peer down that long, narrow spiral staircase dimly lit from the skylight above,
a murky memory arises in your mind and momentarily possesses you utterly.
And yet the memory refuses to come wholly clear,
it grips you with the authority of a lucid dream. 
You look up into the spiral staircase and see the skylight shining with moon light,
The moon light Seizes your attention,
Dispersing the fog in your mind
As you try to focus on a thought,
And so where do you go then
Do you descend the spiral staircase and drop into the dream,
Or do you ascend and find focus on the trance.

Then I am going to start on 4 and go up with the left audio channel and down with right channel.  My thought is that as the numbers proceed the left and right channel audios will decrease in volume while another voice in begins to slowly increase in audio talking about this:

a feminine laughter echoes,

a touch louder and a slight explosive,
almost as if being tickled.
the sound of light footsteps coming from the stairs above.
The sharp memory of a glimpse forms,
up the stairwell,
of a shadowy slender figure,
disappearing around the last visible angle,
just the suggestion of flowing hair and a dress,
a flash of slim wrists and ankles,
all in swift movement.
 
You moved to the well and look down,
and you are struck by how the successive floors below appear like the series of reflections you’ve seen when you stand between two mirrors.
The slight echo of footsteps continued their spiraling descent all the way down,
fading from memory,
pushing outward from your mind as if driven by a centrifugal force

This is where I am at the moment. I wanted to let you know that I'm taking your suggestions seriously and slowly putting some work into it.  I'm hoping to get another audio attempt out by tomorrow morning for your perusal.

and a random picture to go with the post: