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03 Jul 2024, 22:41
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I'm trying out what I'd like to call "project based" self bondage sessions. I let my fantasies go wild up front when there is no opportunity to actually play but I do get all preparations done. I make a list of things I need, stuff to do, etc. I cut ropes to correct lengths, make some ties and loops up frond, melt the knots shut (I use nylon ropes) and put them in a plastic zip lock bag together with the padlocks, ratchet, clothing,... I need for the session. So when the time arrives when I can actually do the session I can get into the outfit and the bondage really quickly. Here is the result of my Spider-Gwen box-tie/frog-tie project bag:
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The rope to hold my upper arms should have been under my breasts instead of over them but otherwise this worked out fine. It was comfy, I couldn't get out and I made a big step forward in reducing complexity. Less ropes, less chance for errors. I still needed 2 padlocks, could have used a third one to extra secure the wrists but this turned out to work just fine.
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Just when you think it's safe to go back to normal life....
What a brilliant session this looks.
'Full Body' achieved in an unexpected way - where did you get that outfit?
'Frog-tie' ticked off too. How did that feel? I've had some test sessions, but not applied it for longer than a few minutes, is it as hard as it looks, or does it remain reasonably comfortable?
'Box tie' done and how! I'd spotted it on @ Annes card and was struggling to figure out how it could be done (like my own 'Ball tie') but Anne has shown us the way. I was fascinated by the rigging and will be re-watching that segment a few times to get tips. I'm not sure I'm flexible enough though, as the timed release element might be too much - was it a strain?
I think I need to invest in some new toys too - a properly manufactured ice-release being one and I'll need to either make or somehow get made a few of those very neat rope-ratchet covers that prevent fingers reaching the release lever. I think Anne said they were created using a 3D printer? I don't have access to one of those, but I might still be able to make something similar using the tools I do have.
Back to this session - all I can add is Wow! WOW! WOW! WOW!
Thank you once more Anne
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04 Jul 2024, 09:29
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Thanks again MJ for your kind words! I'd like to think the people on this forum lift each other to higher levels than would be achievable without the sharing of knowledge that's going on here.
(04 Jul 2024, 07:40 )madjack Wrote: 'Full Body' achieved in an unexpected way - where did you get that outfit?
It's this one: https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBKqu3Z But I must add it's not as stretchy or opaque as the other catsuits I have so it might pay off to look for one slightly more expensive to get one made with better material. The zipper is also questionable as I had to make repairs after the very first try on... But as always on AliExpress: YMMV, at least this one looks good on camera after tweaking the image (a little 😉 ).
(04 Jul 2024, 07:40 )madjack Wrote: 'Frog-tie' ticked off too. How did that feel? I've had some test sessions, but not applied it for longer than a few minutes, is it as hard as it looks, or does it remain reasonably comfortable?
As I'm getting older, past 40 yay, it's getting harder and harder to keep doing these positions but on the other hand doing these positions keeps me flexible? A few months back I wasn't working out anymore, not doing any bondage either, and just sitting on my knees for a minute gave me "needle pins" in my legs when standing up. But the last weeks, months actually, I've been working out again (low weights, high reps, my back would kill me if I did high weight low reps) especially squats (ass to grass) and stretching of off days and I must say this session being frogtied gave me no discomfort whatsoever. Of course you can make the frogtie less strict, even an inch makes a world of difference and is barely noticeable on screen so just go for comfort here. I'd say just start by getting some stretching in every other day, tie a frogtie to get a feeling for what's to tight and after a few weeks it will be perfectly comfortable.
(04 Jul 2024, 07:40 )madjack Wrote: '
'Box tie' done and how! I'd spotted it on @Annes card and was struggling to figure out how it could be done (like my own 'Ball tie') but Anne has shown us the way.
Actually I messed that up. Of course using a pre made rope loop around my arms that goes only in front of my body to greatly simplify the setup was sheer brilliance on my part (lol) but I totally fucked that up by letting it slip over my breasts so it sat on top of my breasts instead of onder them during the session. So I'm going to do another one today actually and do that part right because everything else worked out so well. I did it right, and it worked fantastically in restraining my arms, in practice but then I ruined it for the video. Stil salty about that one so I need to do another session to get this out of my system.
Very quick responders can have a say in what outfit I should be wearing! Go for a single colour? Nice long dress? Show some skin? Cossplay catsuit? You have, let's say, 4 hours 😊
(04 Jul 2024, 07:40 )madjack Wrote: I was fascinated by the rigging and will be re-watching that segment a few times to get tips. I'm not sure I'm flexible enough though, as the timed release element might be too much - was it a strain?
A small increase in length for the upper arm loop makes a great deal of difference in how hard it is to get the wrist bondage done properly so upfront you should experiment a bit with that and it should be fine. No strain at all after carefully tuning the length of that loop. I must say I can pull my hands up behind my back quite high without discomfort, again because I've been stretching a lot for a long time for this very reason so if you are not stretching start today, not only for self bondage but for better health in general 😊
(04 Jul 2024, 07:40 )madjack Wrote: I think I need to invest in some new toys too - a properly manufactured ice-release being one and I'll need to either make or somehow get made a few of those very neat rope-ratchet covers that prevent fingers reaching the release lever. I think Anne said they were created using a 3D printer? I don't have access to one of those, but I might still be able to make something similar using the tools I do have.
This ice lock was "professionally made", as in I got it from ebay from a dude who probably made it in his garage, it's stainless steel and the only downside is that it adds quite "lengthy" so I can't pull my arms up quite as high as I want to. I have a home made ice lock that would work better for this but it's release time is wel over an hour, even closer to two, and I didn't want that for this session. I should make a smaller one... I have instructions on how I made mine somewhere on this site with less than 10€ of materials. Buying one will get you a nice shiny one, making one yourself is cheaper and you can tailor it to your needs once you know what you are doing.
The ratchet cover is indeed 3D printed, the stl file is posted here somewhere but will of course only fit this specific brand of ratchet. There are a few companies that will print your design in any material you choose and ship it to you or you can go to a local makerspace and print it there. I have a cnc router and that should work too. Probable easier to make adjustments on the router anyway and you could make a metal cover that would look better. Maybe I should spray paint mine shiny chrome...
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(04 Jul 2024, 09:29 )Anne Wrote: especially squats (ass to grass) Heeeey!!! Careful!!! The angle must not be less than 90 degrees! Knees are irreplaceable!!!
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(04 Jul 2024, 12:09 )Like Ra Wrote: (04 Jul 2024, 09:29 )Anne Wrote: especially squats (ass to grass) Heeeey!!! Careful!!! The angle must not be less than 90 degrees! Knees are irreplaceable!!!
This is a common misconception and you should not listen to what you read online. I've been working out for over 20 years and when I needed a physiotherapist for one reason or the other they all (n=4) told me it's better to train full range every time for every exercise. I especially asked for squats and (bench)presses, dead lifts). The 90 degrees is a dangerous myth. do full range motion with lighter weights (because you can't do full range of motion with weights you lift when doing only half the range of motion, don't let your ego destroy you knees). It's actually better for your knees to go past 90 degrees because the load on your knees is highest around that point so switching direction there adds extra stress. I can also refer you "Starting Strength" by Mark Rippetoe that discusses this point. I had issues with my lower back (I have an extra vertebra in my lower back, thanks genetics from my father's side of the family, who all have lower back issues whether they work out or not) but never with my knees. So yeah, I've heard the "don't go past 90°" a lot and the result is that these people lift bigger weights because they only go to 90° and then get issues because they are lifting bigger weights than they should. As I said, don't lift for your ego, pick weights you can do with full range of motion for every exercise , this has the added benefit that you will also keep that full range of motion. There are a lot of big muscular guys that can barely move there arms and definitely can't reach their upper back with their hands. Don't be like them, get strong with full range of motion and keep your full range of motion so your body is flexible for self bondage 😊
Edit: To be clear, I'm rather flexible so I can squat low without losing form in my back. If you can't it's perfectly fine not to squat "ass to grass" as they say. The target to aim for is "parallel", meaning upper legs parallel with the ground. This is a lot deeper than knees at 90 degrees, it will be more like 125 degrees. So please don't work out doing squats with "knees at 90°" but at least aim for parallel. IF you can not reach this you should also focus on stretching, this can be done with normal simple stretching exercises or by performing a squat with a very light weight and going as deep as you can gently stretching the muscles at that point, letting the lighter weight you are using help you push down and stretch those muscles a bit. After a few weeks you should be able to comfortably squat to parallel or slightly below without losing the form of you back, that's the sweet spot for strength and muscle growth and it's not bad for your knees.
Side note I want to make: If you train with weights every exercise can help you expand your range of motion, as long as you perform the exercise with your full range of motion and with proper weights (they will be a lot lighter than what you can use for partial range o motion). Do this consistently and you'll keep a full range of motion even later in life. My physiotherapist told me he has never seen someone with my strength and (modest) muscles with this range of motion and flexibility. Should I tell him It's because of the straining bondage positions I put myself in 😁 ?, So yes, I workout about every other day and my motivation is not only looking good but keeping my flexibility and range of motion so I can do my selfbondage sessions that I want to do.
More edit: This article brings some nuance in the discussion, but as I said, talk with professionals. I had a gym teacher tell me not to squat deep, contradicting the advice from multiple physiotherapists. Article: https://www.physio-network.com/blog/is-i...dence-say/
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(04 Jul 2024, 12:30 )Anne Wrote: The 90 degrees is a dangerous myth Yes, until you destroy your knees. Then it suddenly begins to make sense (I have a "chipped" meniscus in one of my knees - sport is not healthy).
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(04 Jul 2024, 14:52 )Like Ra Wrote: (04 Jul 2024, 12:30 )Anne Wrote: The 90 degrees is a dangerous myth Yes, until you destroy your knees. Then it suddenly begins to make sense (I have a "chipped" meniscus in one of my knees - sport is not healthy).
You have a chipped meniscus, I don't. So you are limited in what you can safely do. All I can say is that working out with full range of motion with appropriate weights will not only gain you strength and muscle but also make you more flexible, because you are using the full range of motion and at the end points the weights will push you a little, making you stretch those muscles a little bit every time. I'm living proof (n=1 in this case but you should be able to find studies that confirm this) that working out 2 - 3 times a week with appropriate weights and full range of motion will gain you muscle while also improve your range of motion / flexibility, which comes in handy when doing self bondage.
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