Platinum Puppets

[lurker]

Then please define "darker"  😊

To me, darker means the following:

• Amnesia play, subject is unaware of what conditioning and triggers they received.
  
• Deception, subject believes that an idea was their own, or that they're always believed the idea.
  
• Triggers lack safeties.
  
• Implanting desires / preferences. For example, the subject didn't use to love sucking cock, and now they're addicted to it.
  
• Implanted behaviors / triggers persist even if the subject is embarrassed by them.
  
• Implanted triggers / behaviors are "serious," for instance IQ play that affects the subject's normal life, a masturbation compulsion that has them ducking into the bathroom because they can't help themselves. Speech or behavior patterns persist, even when the subject is trying to have a serious conversation.
  

There are definitely series which aim for this. Most prominently, the Bambi files. But, I've always found this kind of hypnosis enticing. It seems like it's found most regularly in online hypno-dommes, and usually the "evil" and "secret" suggestions either have to do with worshiping the hypnodomme herself (boring) or feminization kink. (fine, but not my thing)

[Like Ra]

To me, darker means the following:

Following this definition, Bambi is the darkest dark 😁

[FatalGRL]

To me, darker means the following:

Following this definition, Bambi is the darkest dark 😁

Eh, It could be "worse" then what we've got though. There's a good middle-ground between Bambi and pig-girl stuff that no one has really capitalized on yet. that golden ratio of being more fucked up then simply 'turning the listener into a hyper sex-obsessed idiot' while also not crossing the line of 'toilet licking' that may be a massive turnoff for people.

Most of PP's conditioning is self-contained to the files, and are more-so about training the Mind so far. OG bambi has a lot more ' you will do this/ act this way when you're in uniform' stuff, but nothing that actually persists in a way thats interesting. (actually this isn't 100% true, the Mindlocked file plays with this a bit)

More stuff like: "when you are not in trance and you [X], you will think of [Y], and then do [Z]." would be interesting. Or something "You like to go on walks while wearing your uniform." Honestly I don't know, It's not even that big a deal I just think more post hypnotic stuff would be cool.

[lurker]

To me, darker means the following:

Following this definition, Bambi is the darkest dark 😁

Eh, It could be "worse" then what we've got though. There's a good middle-ground between Bambi and pig-girl stuff that no one has really capitalized on yet. that golden ratio of being more fucked up then simply 'turning the listener into a hyper sex-obsessed idiot' while also not crossing the line of 'toilet licking' that may be a massive turnoff for people.

Most of PP's conditioning is self-contained to the files, and are more-so about training the Mind so far. OG bambi has a lot more ' you will do this/ act this way when you're in uniform' stuff, but nothing that actually persists in a way thats interesting. (actually this isn't 100% true, the Mindlocked file plays with this a bit)

More stuff like: "when you are not in trance and you [X], you will think of [Y], and then do [Z]." would be interesting. Or something "You like to go on walks while wearing your uniform." Honestly I don't know, It's not even that big a deal I just think more post hypnotic stuff would be cool.

This is really well-said. For the pig girl stuff, the "gross" parts really prevent me from even considering it. I get that's the point, it's just rough if that's not something you're into. I'm really interested in hypnosis which makes more durable changes in the subject. They're more about real conditioning and modification than they are about trance. And these sorts of files definitely exist, but they do seem to be in the minority.

[Like Ra]

For the pig girl stuff, the "gross" parts really prevent me from even considering it. I get that's the point

I think the "gross" part is in the first files only. The latest do not contain it. OTOH, if you do not need it (internally, subconsciously), it will not happen. Or... ?

[lurker]

For the pig girl stuff, the "gross" parts really prevent me from even considering it. I get that's the point

I think the "gross" part is in the first files only. The latest do not contain it. OTOH, if you do not need it (internally, subconsciously), it will not happen. Or... ?

I hear you. I think for stuff you're just not into, your subconscious mind will discard it. Stuff that really upsets you will take you right out of trance, though. I don't want to get into this too much, since I don't want to negatively judge anyone's kinks. But the focus on anal also really rules that series of files out in my case. There's other stuff in there too, but it's tough to match extremity of files with preference for kink.

[sexyfayetv]

I'm at a point now where any Bambi file just puts me into an "unaware trance" where I wake up when told to at the end. Sometimes, if it is later at night, I fall asleep, but mostly I am just in a very deep trance. In a way, it is not as much fun as being aware and entranced where the instructions are creating new neural pathways and I used to be thrilled by that. Now I come back from trance without being aware of the files and it is more insidious and also less... fun?

[Like Ra]

Any residual effects?

[sexyfayetv]

Any residual effects?

Totally triggerable at all times. Because of safeties I have in my own files, I won't take an action from a trigger with anyone else around. I am a true Auto Gynephiliac so if I am safe and alone, I will drop to my knees and get to work without question. If other people are around then I will get spacey, have a mini-fantasy, and later, Bambi may 'talk to me.' 
This is more noticeable after trancing on a THC edible + a microdose of Teacher mushrooms last week.

[candi-latex]

Noticed I posted in the wrong platinum puppets thread so, here we go, deleted the post from the other so it shouldn't be a mess -

Ran into a few videos on hypnotube that were using platinum puppets for the audio, pretty well put together with timing the triggers on screen as well

the profile showing all three is here - https://hypnotube.com/user/hypnosislovr-104044/